let's talk about the shit going down in ferguson, shall we? i'm sitting here watching the looting broadcast with my family and i just .. it seems like such a waste, you know? they're burning down their own town and for what?
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let's talk about the shit going down in ferguson, shall we? i'm sitting here watching the looting broadcast with my family and i just .. it seems like such a waste, you know? they're burning down their own town and for what?
Because they only see the color of skin, they dont see what justice is and you cannot change justice because you want to riot and threaten to burn down a city. the people doing this are just animals cops should be shooting them on sight!!!
Guessing there's another riot in the US.
Probably over another cop/nationalistic moron shooting dead another non-white person.
Bonus points if it was a kid/unarmed person.
Jackpot bonus if the courts don't convict the murderer on "self-defence" grounds.
All you can really do is say "oh well". If America wants to continue its racist agenda it's been projecting since the 18th century, then the government's gonna have to deal with the non-white population losing their shit and destroying things every now and then.
Power to the people. No justice, no peace.
I don't really understand the whole issue, it's becoming a new zimmerman case
the police have shown that the dude had robbed a store just before hand making all eye witness accounts false as they all claimed he had done nothing of that nature. the guy is painted like some peace loving hero when he very clearly wasn't (by the media and people who are "on his side" )
the police have done a great job at being open and transparent and i feel bad for his browns family because it's scum who then take advantage of a situation to for rioting and taking part to cause issues and take away from the issue
the police and the family should honestly be taken out of media limelight and let them get on with the case like any other.. it's not important, there's nothing significant about it and honestly it happens all the time, simply because the media can make it a race issue isn't enough of a reason to think anything of the case.
it's like once they left zimmerman case they needed another case to moan about.
Obama inflamed the whole thing
obama and the media both made the entire situation worse. lol i just heard they were stealing condoms and liquor and hairweeves. thats just too funny to me
"A riot is the language of the unheard." - Martin Luther King Jr.
"Why can't we all just get along."
These kinds of things never happen in the far more enlightened UK.
Oh well... "no justice, no peace".
Yea, that was totally the point i was getting at.
Well done Steve.
thats a bunch of crap the unheard cant be bothered to read the transcripts from the grand jury or even bother to look into anything about it They wanted officer Wilson indicted because he was white and nothing else. You see anyone looting or rioting about the 12 year old black boy just shot in Cleveland no you do not, wanna know why? because he was shot by a black cop. These people rioting are nothing but trouble making thug racists. And im glad they burnt their city down thats what they deserve to live in.
you're linking to wikipedia, i'm sure you yourself know very much why i'm pointing this out
on topic, the only major riot to have happened in recent years was the student riot which was going against the price raise from £3,000 a year to £9,000 a year. while that was the worst one in recent memory no one was idiotic enough to allow media to inflame the situation on a public scale all the way to a social media scale where police did a great job in putting those who tried out of "the game" within hours of a public attempt to cause more problems, Secondly that happened in England do not state the "UK" as it didn't happen through the UK. Doing something like that is basically me talking about the civil war of Europe... in the ukraine. The last point to be made would be that even attempting to compare a riot from ENGLAND to that of the us is a joke, no one walks around with guns here, there are far less of them and the damage cause in comparison is a massive gap.. i would also argue from a subjective point of view that the issue of the student pay rise riot was much.. much more important than some kid getting shot for robbing and resisting arrest.
I really don't care what you think of Wikipedia... that is your business. I could have found other links if I had felt the need... I did not.
England is part of the UK right? I thought so. But thanks all the same for the information.
The riots in 2011 are rather similar in nature I would think. Guy gets killed by police, and then the people in the area where the guy gets killed (shot to death) go crazy and destroy their own neighborhoods.
The point is, that this kind of crap happens around the world. LSD was trying to paint this an a problem exclusive to the USA.
It isn't.
You were not trying to make any point, LSD. You were just trying to troll the whole USA as usual. I have been reading your nonsense for years, so go pretend to be a neutral outside observer of the USA in some other game where maybe you will be believed.
It's not a matter of what I, the majority of the world has the general same opinion and why it's a rejected source within the academic community.
England is part of the UK, you know the UK is part of Europe, how about we call them the riots of Europe?
the riot which is mostly mentioned in that article talks mostly about the student cost raise which was related to once again, cost raise, political betrayal and the like, it has nothing to do with someone being shot by police, even if it was a result of the riot, which i'm rather sure it isn't although if you'd like to link me to a creditable source i'll read that.
and you're right it does happen in the world, mostly those which are third worlds, it's rather un heard of here in europe that police accountability is taken into question, mainly due to the high CCTV throughout and police having their own cameras which record what they do (which i hear they've started to roll out in the US.. a wonderful step forward)
honestly the idea of a criminal being shot causing drama is rather unheard of.
I am not writing for the academic community, but thank you again. If you require better links, please feel free to Google it.
England is part of the UK, and the UK is part of Europe, and Europe is part of the world, as is the USA, so how about we call all these riots, world riots?
I am not sure what article you are reading, but the article I posted includes this information:
"On Thursday 4 August 2011, a police officer shot and killed 29-year-old Mark Duggan during a traffic stop on the Ferry Lane bridge next to Tottenham Hale station.[19][20][21][22] The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) said that the planned arrest was part of Operation Trident, which investigates gun crime within the black community.[18] The incident had been referred to the IPCC,[19] which is standard practice if death or serious injury follows police contact.[23]"
So you see, Mark Dugagan in England, a part of the UK, was gunned down, and then riots happened as a result or as a excuse by those criminals who feel it necessary to steal anything not nailed down in their efforts to be heard...
Seems to parallel the events in Ferguson, Mo, USA.
Im from Troy,Mo and find it hillarious
"i'm not part of the academic communty, if i want to post links that support what i'm saying which aren't actually credited or valid then that's my choice" - fair enough that's correct you can post whatever you like, even if it's false. As people of the us would say "it's your freedom"
oh you understand now why calling them the riots of the UK is idiotic, what's wonderful.
oh that's wondeful, you quote a website which.. well i guess you'd refer to me to the top part of my reply, fair enough. either way here's a creditable site which covers the matter http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25321711 which later went on to say
"Over the next few months, the jury hears Mr Duggan was "among Europe's most violent criminals". However, his mother says her son "may not have been an angel" but he should not have been shot dead by police."
but you're right about one thing, in both cases someone died and it resulted in "riots" but that's where it mostly ends when you consider the number of further deaths, rioting, looting, total damage.
Oh and it didn't seem to be a race issue
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10561007/Gangsterism-not-racism-was-the-root-of-Mark-Duggans-shooting.html
these people are just a plague on society and they are nowhere near this bad in other civilized countries it seems that they feel they are entitled to everything in the US.
Your sources are far more credible than mine. You win. There is little similarity. There is no chance that justice has been miscarried in either case, and certainly not in the case of Mr. Duggans shooting, because it happened in England.
Right!
On topic:
The shooting of Mr. Brown, a known criminal, who had just criminalized a business in Ferguson, Mo, USA, was more than likely a crime itself. There likely was no need to shoot to kill in this case. If Mr. Brown had been shot at the door of the police van during the altercation between himself and the officer then it may have been a justified shooting, but from what I have read and seen he was shot when rushing back at the cop. Cops today need to be taught how to aim a firearm in such a manner that they can incapacitate a criminal who is unarmed... but then most cops are just taught to shoot to kill these days to avoid lawsuits.
Regardless, the rioting in Ferguson is just trumped up nonsense provoked by rabble-rousers, and carried out mostly by people who are using it as an excuse to steal and vandalize.
Ridiculousness all around.