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007[370359]
· 49 likes · Thanks for confirming the bug. Unfortunately as this bug has not been fixed, SA and several other factions have been trapped, unable to move forward despite wining several wars. Moreover, conceeding has been used to gift other factions territories whilst …
007[370359]
· 27 likes · A shame TuS are abusing a known bug... Poor sportsmanship.
All_in_Ken[557912]
· 23 likes · Yes this system is very flawed, JFK are running scared of SA and using Tus to block us. We've beat JFK twice, EASILY, and have got no where. If our new war system is set up so cowards can be …
So we can just keep rinse and repeating and get no where on the map. This is a huge flaw in the system and makes the comp impossible. If this is the way the future wars will be I can see the end of torn may be here sooner then expected!
Yes this system is very flawed, JFK are running scared of SA and using Tus to block us. We've beat JFK twice, EASILY, and have got no where. If our new war system is set up so cowards can be cowards then i feel very sad for the future of warring factions.
Let's not confuse actual bugs with the design flaws of the system. If you cannot attack a single territory owned by the same faction again for 7 days and you actually do that (as posted in another thread) that is a bug. If system allows just 1 territory war between factions and we as users find that the system is poorly thought out and easily abusable (as it has been proven) it is not a bug, it is a design flaw and it will be improved.
If the system allows you to climb the wall for free during Beta and people use that to get beaten 50 times and climb back on the wall spending no energy at all, it is also not a bug and none of us have resorted to calling SA bug abusers for doing it. So please, I understand emotions are running high, but keep your facts in check and call things as they are, otherwise those that should be doing the work - admins and coders - will get confused by what we are trying to accomplish here. Bug gets reported, bug gets confirmed, bug gets fixed.
P.S. Longbow: Cooldowns of 7 days between assaults are connected to territories, not factions. So there was no bug there, maybe another potential design flaw if you were to want to slow the game down and introduce a cooldown between assaulting different blocks of the same faction, but that's definitely up for discussion, should it be like it is or should it be changed. But definitely not a bug.
Actually it was confirmed by ched as a bug for the mass concede declares. It was supposed to be one way and is actually coded another way. That is a bug and not a design flaw...
The things you say SA is doing can be called design flaws though I will give you that.
So instead of fixing these issues let's all abuse the exploits and "flaws" not mention anything to ched until after the comp is over.
Only reason why you are here now is because it was pointed out what was happening and you seem to have to justify why you are using the flaws and exploits to your advantage instead of trying to improve the system for release.
Not sure why you're quoting me as this threads bug has been confimed so yes its a bug. A coding error is called a bug. A design flaw is something that was completely overlooked. This is clearly a coding error therefore a bug.
No emotions running high at all. I didn't write an essay about my feelings on JFK abusing all the betas "design flaws" now did I?
Ched clearly stated that this is not how it was intended at all so we're waiting for a fix is all.
P.S. Using revivers is not a design flaw. Med CD has allowed revivers to play a key role in every torn conflict. When it costs E to join the hill revivers will play an even bigger roll in Territories. Also you can NOT win a territory by just reviving and rejoining so please don't bring up bullshit and call it chocolate milk.
yes, it was clearly stated that no energy would be required to join a siege, JFK has taken full advantage of that as others have. The abuse comes from doing things no one knew about but clearly know now they are wrong and still doing those things. I really hope no one is rewarded for finding a flaw and abusing it.
like joining the wall that costs no energy, equipping a smoke grenade, then constantly refreshing your screen till you see your life start to go down then failing a crime to get self-hosp'd thus causing the attacking faction to use energy while you use none?
this thread needs moved to general discussion so these issues can be discussed. i need something to do with my time while running scared and losing EASILY
That's actually quite clever... Shame I care too much about my crime experience :(... flying would be a good alternative, or taking the wrong med bag if you weren't bothered about life or med cooldown.
intelligent and clever gameplay or clever abuse of a war engine?
do you not think other crews log... attacks weapons used time on the wall outcome of a fight weapons and temps used energy spent both offense and defense drug addicition outcome and reason for the outcome and many other factors???
or do you just run to a forum and cry about factions you loathe and what you claim to know when things dont go your way?
erm... what. Have JFK let you out again... I'm not sure at which part you mistook my comment for 'running to a forum and crying'. Please explain before you go insulting people?
This is a bug. Read the OP. Ched knows about it and will be fixed soon. There should be a 7 day cooldown on territories attacked and successfully defended against. If you would like to insult people in the GD section instead of B+I then you are 100% welcome to press that big button at the top and submit your own post, as you said this is an open forum anyone is welcome to do that.