who cares

I wanted to keep it factual and non opinionated in the bugs and issues thread: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=19&t=16017993 

I thought I'd come out here to raise a lil' awareness on how a group of a few hundred exploiters are in the process of stealing the elimination event from the 9,000+ other players.

With double the attacks other teams and nearly 1/10th of their members in the same faction (meaning a sizable chunk of their team can share resources and communication like no other teams can), PP is going to roll over every one else.

 

Nice to be part of such a fiasco.

 

"Join the elimination" they said...

"It'll be fun" they said...

"You'll meet new people" they said...

"One team will exploit, ruin it all, and suffer no consequences" they... wait... wut? [:tired:]

 

It's not enough to be in a top 10 faction.  It's not enough to have billions in stats.  Nope, gotta manipulate crap and then act like it's no big deal.

 

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Here's what I put in the bugs and issues thread:

Issue: Nearly an entire faction abused the gender change function to bypass the elimination events team randomization process.

Supporting facts:

• 87 out of 100 faction members are in the Pink Power elimination team.
• Many of those members were not female before the competition and/or have already switched back to male gender.
• Of those faction members, 6 are in the teams top 10 and account for over 1,600 attacks.
• The affected team has nearly double the attacks of most other teams.

Other concerns/ideas/thoughts:

• If actual randomized picks had been assigned the max number from any faction should have been more in the 15-20 range.
• There are many more examples of gender switching to manipulate game results but nearly an entire faction breaking game rules is the most egregious example.
• Having almost 1/10th of your elimination team in the same faction is a huge advantage because of the shared communication and resources that other teams do not have.

Proposed ideas:

• Remove the offending team.
  • Very negative impact to those that chose that team fairly.
• Remove players who abused the randomization system from the elimination event.
  • Write a script to search for trends in gender changes prior to the event and/or changes back after the event started.
  • Labor intensive and may be difficult to find (planning appears to have been made far in advance).
• Reset the competition and remove the gender specific team choice.
  • Big impact to players that have already devoted time and energy to the competition so far.

Impacts:

With almost double the attacks of most teams, the exploited advantage is very apparent.  Subtle changes in scoring or scoring caps cannot make up for that imbalance.

• Removing the offenders impacts only those players (eidt: it also impacts the rest of the team that aren't exploiters).
• Removing the affected team impacts 1,000 players.
• Doing nothing affects 9,100 players.

Rules and definitions:

From the Torn Rules page

(https://www.torn.com/rules.php):

BUG / EXPLOIT ABUSE: Game ban

Although every aspect of Torn is tested strenuously before release, unintentional exploits are sometimes possible. Every action and gain in Torn is logged with timestamps often going back years in the past, so exploiting a bug / glitch / hack is impossible to get away with. If you find an abusable exploit, do not share it with others. Report it to the developers immediately - you'll be rewarded for your discovery. Continuing to abuse an exploit without reporting it will result in account deletion.

Definition of exploit

(http://www.dictionary.com/browse/exploit):

exploit2

[verb ik-sploit; noun eks-ploit, ik-sploit] 

verb (used with object)

1. to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account: to exploit a business opportunity.
2. to use selfishly for one's own ends: employers who exploit their workers.
3. to advance or further through exploitation; promote: He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances. noun, Digital Technology.
4. a flaw in hardware or software that is vulnerable to hacking or other cyberattacks.
5. piece of software that takes advantage of such a flaw to compromise a computer system or network.
6. (in a video game) the use of a bug or flaw in game design to a players advantage or to the disadvantage of other players.

 Thank you for your time in reviewing this matter.

Oh the horrors! Controversy in the Elimination competition!

What were the odds... [:sick:]

Oh noez, pirates are losing and here is a crying thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KquFZYi6L0



credit goes to sticky

Pirates LOL

You sent a Box of Tissues to _gunz_.

He's gonna need a lot more than one box

comical

1) All teams have their own chat, how does having a faction chat aswell further benefit them?

2) most peoole are aware of the 'rigging' where by players changed genders before hand to recieve a certain team and this needs to be altered to prevent any 'rigging' next year

3) theyre putting in the attacks regardless of where theyre from(faction) or their stats, yes they have ALOT of high statted players but also remember, energy IS limited

4) above i mentioned limited energy -- yes i know about refills, fhcs, cans blah blah blah, however, all teams can afford fhcs, cans, refills blah blah blah, (if you find a price for blah blah blah you get a high 5)



my overall opinion is, if you dont like it, stop hitting, endure the hospital time, and continue with normal game life :) Yes it is annoying that they've found a loop hole to muster the strongest players to one team but its happened now they wont do a restart and change the teams up :)

You sent a Certificate of Lame to _gunz_.

Close

Can you post this in Questions and Answers too?

maybe also faction discussion

1. Newsletters = easy mailing to coordinate strategy. Forums are okay. Team chat scrolls too fast to be effective. Plus, this was obviously pre-coordinated via their faction communication channels.

2. Absolutely! If I understand correctly MM was changed? Why was PP left as female only? (this is my first elim, I'm actually not sure how it all worked previously, shrugs)

3. If these high level of activity people were correctly distributed it would not be an issue.

4. I help people on my team. With faction a faction armory it's much easier to share resources. (I don't see what "above", another thread?)

They certainly wont change anything without any official complaint. That's the point of my bugs&issues thread. This thread was just for all the nonsense discussions and excuses for poor behavior.

tissues... lame certs... oh so creative -_-



Now to dude/dude-ette who sent the GT-40... rock on! [:evil:]

meh i got that one from an other player -)

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hahahahahahahahahha

Well played Pirates.

Perhaps, if you cry hard enough, Ched will bail you out?



I feel bad because there are some really good peeps on that team like BB... and others.