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"Polish Concentration Camps"

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BackWoodDutch [2131280]

Quite recently, Poland passed legislature that made it illegal to call the concentration camps that were built on now Polish lands, "Polish Concentration Camps". 

Thoughts on this?

America, Israhell, and many other nations dismissed this legislature as a "slap in the face to the remaini g survivors of the Holocaust".

Me being Polish, I don't like being labeled as the cause of something as horrendous as genocide.

Especially since so many Polish citizens died trying to protect people of the Jewish Faith!

Thoughts?

Ideas?


Sweeney_Todd [27468]

I guess the point they are making is that they were not "Polish Concentration Camps", they were "Nazi Concentration Camps"...

A minor but valid point... [:sick:]
dunmugmeh [538353]

I think the problem lies with a lot of polish people being pretty right wing. 

I know a lot of polish people and have worked with hundreds of them over the years.

You just vote for people who have extreme views.
drcalypso [677329]

I think the "polish concentration/death camp" is not what they are calling slap in the face.

I think they have problem with this : [Anyone] who, in public and against the facts, ascribes to the Polish Nation or to the Polish State, responsibility or co-responsibility for Nazi crimes committed by the Third Reich, or who otherwise grossly reduces the responsibility of the actual perpetrators of said crimes, is subject to a fine or [to] imprisonment for up to 3 years.

That sounds like noone can say now there were not any nazi collaborators in Poland during the WWII.
Revis [1893023]

What, so we should call them "Nazi Concentration Camps built in Poland"? I think it's pretty easy to tell that "Polish Concentration Camp" has no relation to the current polish state, but rather the location of the camp, just as "German Concentration Camp" does not mean that the current German state had anything to do with it. 
MachineGunSteve [184119]

One would think that this would be easy to figure out, that these camps were Nazi camps built in Poland, especially in the internet age, but to be perfectly honest it doesn't surprise me a bit that Poland would want to disassociate itself from the Nazi crimes as clearly as possible, because each year that goes by people become less and less familiar with what happened during WW II. Time has a way of doing that, but also a lack of historical knowledge is also responsible. Young people today see WW II as ANCIENT history, thus they become ignorant about the impact that those events still have on our current state of global affairs. I daresay that there are young people in Europe who have very little knowledge of events that happened before their own lifetime. I know this to be the case in the USA... even though we have the Hitler History Channel here.
PurpPurp [1990116]

80 years is a lifetime man. i know ww2 was super serious, probably the worst thing the worlds ever been through, but i kinda feel like the cold war is more important for people to learn about right now. nobody ever talks about what happened after ww2, and its honestly helped me understand the world alot more then ww2 did.
MachineGunSteve [184119]

Well, unfortunately WW II directly impacted and created the situation we have today with regards to the Cold War.

Prior to WW II is also still impacting our world... WW I and the advent of Communism and the Russian revolution as well.. see when Lenin and Trotsky, et. al.,  created Communism that set up a whole chain of events that were part and parcel of the spark that triggered WW II. Not to mention the ramifications to the middle east due to the return to Judea by newly stateless people of the Jewish faith.

Stalin made a deal with Hitler to divide up Europe, but Hitler broke that deal, so Stalin then made a deal with the West, but once WW II was over the ramifications of that deal left Europe split in half both by territory and ideology.
PurpPurp [1990116]

yeah your right. i guess i just been able to understand the cold war easier than the first half of the 1900's. 

i mean ive watched a handful of docs on WWl, and to this day ive still no clue what it was about. other then some semi important guy getting assassinated lol.. then everybody starts killing each other over land, and alliances. kinda confusing. WW2 was way more straightforward. the cold war was like a spy thriller.

i honestly know nothing about the start of communism or the russian revolution. anything before the 30's i don't know much about tbh. atleast recent history.
Viracocha [1772040]

between the Summer of 1944, and 1948, my mother, her siblings and mother were in a Russian concentration camp.  They became part of the largest ethnic cleansing in modern history.  
PEPE3 [2137904]

lets not forget the bolshevik communist jewish concentration camps that were in poland killing christians