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Working the Roulette Table

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Keenan [2518253]
I start by saying Roulette is a sucker’s game.
It tricks many people by including a slot for “zero” which does not count as odd, even, red or black.
So while betting red or even may seem like a 0.50 probability of success, it is actually18/37 = 0.4865

Roulette Table Image

This ultimately gives the house the edge, so over the long run, everyone but the house loses.
The only way to win is to bet high, be lucky, and then STOP. This post is about generating a stopping rule. We can get around the house’s edge and generate an advantage by having a stopping rule, as well as the capital to provide a buffer for our losses.

I only focus on the so-called 50:50 bets (odds/evens or red/black). But the logic is identical for all the odds.
Chance of winning at first bet = 18/37 = 0.4865

If we lose, we can double down and bet again (twice the size of the first bet). Chance of winning on second bet is again 0.4865
So chance of losing on the first bet AND winning on the second bet is (1-0.4865) x 0.4865= 0.2498
So the chance of winning on EITHER the first or second bet is 0.4865 + 0.2498 = 0.7363
This means that if we want to win one million dollars, we can do it in two bets with 73.63% certainty, and need 3 million dollars to do so.

This can be formalized as follows;
P(y) = x[1-P(y-1)]+P(y-1)
Where;
y = the bet number (ie first or second or third bet etc)
P(y) = probability of winning on or before the yth bet, and
x = chance of winning = 0.4865

yCash to betrunning totalp(y)Profit
1110.48651
2230.73651
3470.86471
48150.93071
516310.96431
632630.98161




SO, if you want to win one million dollars, with 98% certainty, you need to have 63million dollars ready to go, and be prepared to make six bets!
Casinos get around this rule by having a maximum bet on the table. If you reach the max before you reach your stopping rule, you are screwed. I'm not sure what the max is in Torn Casino.
TheCrimsonKing [1488748]
I usually place a million on black, and fill in some red chunks with 100k chips. Usually a total bet of 1.7 million. The way I do it usually gives you 32/37 filled. You can lose money on some wins, but the loss isn't as bad. I almost always walk away ahead.

Just use the gambler's rules. Don't bet more than you're willing to lose and know when to quit.
MadBuhdda [2224374]
This ^ and the fact that you can't make bets that don't follow the weird 10^x rule on the amount you can place.

Like you can't bet 2 million to try to regain a 1 million loss and so forth cuz the only amounts you can place are:

10
100
1k
10k
100k
1mil
10mil