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PurpPurp [1990116]
If testosterone is dropping every year and people are pushing for kids to be put on weird hormones, at what point do we begin giving boys and men testosterone treatment to make up for the loss? At some point the drop must become unbearable for a society, if we haven't already reached that point.
DrZed [237786]
Yeah and a lot of that probably has to do with all the hormones that they pump into cows. So a lot of the meat and plenty oof milk and cheese are full of it. That is why.
SaintLuke [2220265]
sadly this is true, and every attempt to change the way we raise beef meets a brick wall.

I can say with out the implants we put into cattle folks would have to change the way they eat. Since the beef industry would not be able to keep up with demand.
Bhappychap [2270497]
Small fix there,
Milk and cheese, at least in the US, does not allow added growth hormones, and all milk and cheese tested on the market abides by these regulations.
Tolshortte [648554]
beef is so expensive right now that T levels should start to rise lol.

problems is its probably in just about everything we eat, especially fast food. or at least something very similar.

its not a subject im highly versed in. i tend to stay away from prepared food altogether because i prefer good tasting food lol. i hunt a lot and buy a lot of produce from local farms that were recommended by the organic crowd. id rather support small businesses anyways. when i do go the big store for food i dont go to WalMart.

there are a few chemicals i avoid completely. there is one in M&Ms, PoP tarts, and a few other products and as a result i dont buy them. makes my kids crazy lol.
DrZed [237786]
Okay, I was not sure. On the milk I get it says from cows with no hormones. But I never paid attention to other brands. Where the type I get is from a local dairy.
SaintLuke [2220265]
even some of the small organic farmers use implants, which usually goes undiscovered due to the fact they sell it to people and not to plants where the FDA can test it properly. So i would still be weary about the beef your buying. Best way to tell is if you butcher your own cattle or not, you can actually see under the skin where shots have been given. To check for a implant you can fill around the middle third of the ear for a slight bump.
Sagramor [1908287]
Most folks don't really get hands on with their food though and would probably be repulsed by the idea of checking a cow's ear implant.

I'm more inclined to moderate my meat intake and supplement with cereals and legumes. Haven't had beef in 2 years, mostly eat my own lamb and chicken. It's not viable in an urban environment to do it yourself obviously, but you can tell which farmers take an interest in producing high quality meat products and which don't. It's often, in my experience the ones who put a small herd on slightly more land then they need, harvests a few, breeds a few and the herd is generally designed to be active to a point and generally stress-free. Growing meat and growing fruit are two completely different and separate concepts. With fruit trees you actually want to stress the trees out to encourage fruit. Stressed meat is bad meat imo.
Bhappychap [2270497]
Toot toot, 2nd call for the Lamb train.

Limiting red meat intake to just lamb has done awesome things for my health.

Im a bit jealous of the people in this thread that talk about getting farm fresh dairy and such.

Everyone around should find a good local butcher, and get all there meat there. So much better than the shit at the super market.
Viracocha [1772040]
I purchase locally. When I hit the local grocer and examine what they are offering, I'm routinely amazed at the difference.

Can't stand lamb though. Do not like the flavour.

I wonder how much the exposure to so many types of plastics, chemicals in personal care products, residual chemicals etc. in all our food products from fresh produce to boxed cereals, is leading to such things as lowered testosterone levels or sperm levels.

Oh well, the boiled cat crew will be running us all shortly anyway given the supine spines of the men in the West. Why they've made themselves a roadway of sort for the invaders.
SaintLuke [2220265]
sadly you are right, im sure most folks in America don't realize where their beef comes from. The things some folks do to them, and the resources spent on it. I tend to eat much more chicken now that i have been working on a feed yard for about 8-10 years. The amount of drugs and hormones we put into cattle scare the hell out of me. Which is a perk of working on a feed yard, i can actually look up the history of the cow and pick which cow i want that way. stress will actually taint beef and it usually gets condemned at the plant as a "dark cutter". I think the taste you are referring to is corn fed beef vs. grass fed. Which most folks will agree, grass fed is much better.
Sagramor [1908287]
More so referring to the quality of the cut, fat layers/marbling, toughness, freshness, etc.

Corn/grain fed vs pastured/hay/silage is obviously an important distinction affecting quality, just not the only one. I've got a few different breeds of sheep, one of which has a taste closer to elk, for example.