Dex vs Def

Whats ultimately better? Getting hit for less or barely being hit at all?

Trying to figure out if I should dex or def whore

Currently I am a dex whore but I’m starting to realize defense might be the way to go, there’s a ton of options to lower someone’s dex (temp weapons like smoke grenades) but not too many to lower someone's defense. Now with the ranked war perks it’s even easier to get someone who is a dex whore.

Smoke hits speed, you’re thinking about tear gas. Now with ranked war weapons it’s easier to overcome def than before, you need to land a damage causing hit. Also it’s easier to protect dex from teargas with the addition of delta armour

but not all of us afford a rw armour. but i do remember there is a post saying if we are not wealthy enough, dex is actually a better option

Defense is the better choice.

You need something like 15:1 - Def : Str for damage mitigation.
You need something like 64:1 - Dex:Spd for 100% dodge chance.

With 100% dodge chance, you can still be hit critically. I think that might even be a different check.
If you are critically hit with high enough defense, you can still mitigate the damage.

Dex can be reduced by multiple temporary items.
Def can only be reduced by the new RW weapons.

This is incorrect. If you can't be hit you can't be critted. You can still get hit by a sure shot weapon though.

I gotta disagree due to talking with others and experience. I've definitely fought with people and only won because of crits. Maybe I had a 1% chance to hit that person, and not a 0% chance, but that still makes def better because of the 15:64 ratio imo

edit: I looked for the crit mechanics but couldnt find them. Can you link them?

Oh lord.

You have to be able to hit someone to be able to critical hit them.

If your speed is less than 1/64th their dexterity, you won't be able to hit them, and thus won't be able to crit them.

It goes:
- check if hit
- if hit, check if crit.


And to be able to damage someone, your strength needs to be more than 1/14th the targets defense.

Dex for most people imo; defense if you can afford to SE ad infinitum.

Unless you can buy enough SEs to take either dex or def through the roof your best option is to train both.

Also, of the people who advocate for def many seem to forget the following:
Firstly, although its true that def requires less relative to strength compared to dex/speed to fully mitigate an attack (compared to missing an attack), the x14 vs x64 comparison only really applies at the upper ends. If you look at the graph of spd/dex vs def/str they're pretty similar throughout the x2, x3, x4, x5 etc. It's only at the end where def pulls away. At x14 dex to spd you still have over a 90% chance that the opponent will miss you.

Secondly, dex is by far the better option when avoiding RW weapon effects unless you can guarantee you'll be able to fully mitigate hits because your def is so high.

In summary, imo, if you can't afford SEs - both
If you can only afford limited SE's - Def
If you can afford unlimited SE's - which ever you prefer and take it to the max

both

neither go for strength

In my opinion dex whoring is best for level holders.

This is because you can use a smurf gun to do crazy damage. And you could get a really rare one with supress also.

Defense whoring is good as well as balanced. If youre not level holding id suggest working the defense whore job and trying out defense whoring.

If you dont like it balance out your stats.

Come on, nerds.

The best stat to increase is karma.

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