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Kidnapped [1841988] ×1

Kidnapped [1841988]

Chaos on the streets, stabbings, children being killed.

 

what does everyone make of it? 

 

I think the Prime Minister has failed the country already

FalconCY [2309782]

A bunch of right-wing losers have decided to latch onto a mass murder and attack mosques and today try and set fire to a hotel housing asylum seekers. Hopefully they will be sharing a prison with the kiddie murderer very soon.

Unlucky [2472585]

Civil war lol. 

It’s a few thousand bell ends that got riled up by a couple of racist bell ends that should’ve become irrelevant years ago. 

 

Violence [2603171]

How do you know someone is a racist piece of shit? 

 

 

Because they'll tell you. 

 

 

 

The few sad twats taking a break from battering their families are all being filmed. 

 

 

No point getting too hasty when they're doing all the leg work for us. 

 

 

Just need to arrest them or more likely recall them to prison. 

H4D35 [1487001]

since when was Wales the 3rd world you Russian propaganda peddling wee weirdo?

 

literally posting getting every single fact wrong & posting LITERAL white supremacist telegram memes

 

get f**ked

 

LOL

Intricate [1957884]

The UK needs to get on with mass deportations, sooner than later. 

 

But, seems the government is intent on giving Illegals the free for all on beatings, stabbings.. even kids, harassment of women on the street,  r*pe, grooming and r*pe gangs and endless other crimes. 

Magical_Toaster [3218279]

 

His nationality was from wales because his parents immigrated there but his ethnicity was from rwanda. Your entire talking point is another ethnic replacement mechanism where Europe is merely some economic zone where anyone can enter. 

H4D35 [1487001]

Europe is merely some economic zone where anyone can enter.

 

You mean like the US?

 

and literally how it started?

 

which generation of immigrants are you?

 

also that means he was welsh & you're literally just pontificating & regurgitating white supremacist propaganda

 

also that's a lot of word play to just describe white replacement theory btw

 

not as smart as you think you are

Magical_Toaster [3218279]

I'm not the one supporting ethnic replacement and genocide. Getting mad that people are doing something about children being carved up by men with hate in their eyes for the indigenous population. 

H4D35 [1487001]

lmao

 

white replacement theory isnt real nazi boy

 

go put your tin foil hat on

 

Getting mad that people are doing something about children being carved up by men with hate in their eyes for the indigenous population. 

 

they're just nazis looking for excuses to be nazis

 

its been well documented 

 

https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/01/11/tommy-robinson-is-a-hypocrite-when-it-comes-to-opposing-child-sexual-exploitation/

 

like there

 

Despite presenting himself as a protector of children and women, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon has repeatedly failed to confront child sexual exploitation and abuse within his own team and amongst his supporters.

 

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (AKA Tommy Robinson) has announced plans to hold a demonstration in Telford at the end of January. As well as a march, he intends to screen his self-made documentary ‘The **** of Britain”, about the issue of on-street grooming allegedly perpetrated by Muslim men of South Asian heritage in the town.

 

After several years of legal woes, incarcerations, extended holidays, injunctions and bankruptcy, he is attempting to exploit the pain of survivors of child sexual exploitation (CSE) to relaunch his political career.

 

Not only is this whipping up local tensions, but Yaxley-Lennon’s actions are jeopardising real justice for survivors by pre-empting an ongoing independent investigation and potentially prejudicing any future trials.

 

However, Lennon has a long history of failing to condemn the abuse of children by his own friends and supporters. He is no ally in opposing child sexual exploitation.

Consistency Is Key

There is no crime more horrific than the sexual abuse of children, and there is certainly no crime that incites so much understandable anger within our communities. 

 

HOPE not hate have always had a zero-tolerance attitude towards child sexual exploitation (CSE) and believe the protection of children is a moral imperative, not something to be used to advance the politics of discrimination, to raise one’s personal profile or to fundraise.

 

As far back as 2005, years before Lennon even launched the English Defence League (EDL), we confronted the issue head on in Keighley when the British National Party were seeking to exploit it in their General Election campaign.

 

Later, in 2013, HNH was involved in the launch of the Community Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation which sought to develop cross-community initiatives to deal with street grooming by gangs. Between 2015 and 2017 we were active in Rotherham, putting out local community newspapers addressing the issue and calling on the government to provide more support to survivors.

 

We will always call out those who seek to exploit these heinous crimes, and call for justice for survivors.

 

so f**k off with your fake ass pearl clutching you're not fooling anyone

 

The Racialisation of Sexual Abuse

There is a very long history of minority communities being framed as a sexual threat by the far right. Whether it is the centuries old blood libel or the characterisation of Jews as paedophiles before the Second World War, attacking African-Caribbean immigrants as rapists and pimps in the post-war period, and now painting Muslims as groomers, the far right have always sought to racialise sexual violence and child sexual exploitation.

 

None of this means that we should not confront the role that localised cultures may have played in the particular form of CSE known as on-street grooming by gangs, or hold people accountable for institutional failings. At times progressive movements and the left have been angrier about the racist and opportunistic actions of Stephen Lennon than the widespread sexual assault of young and vulnerable women.

 

The number of reported on-street grooming victims is shocking, and there have clearly been major systemic failings. Whether it is Telford, Rotherham or Rochdale children have been let down by police, councils, social services and the wider community. We must put justice for survivors first, as we oppose Lennon’s racist opportunism.

 

It is vital we take race out of the equation and focus instead on seeking justice, and addressing the deep-seated patriarchal culture that underpins these crimes which reach across all communities.

Defending a Perpetrator

Since founding the EDL in 2009, the issue of sexual violence at the hands of Muslim men – described as ‘Rape Jihad’ – has been a mainstay for Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. However, he himself has an appalling record of confronting paedophilia and abuse within his own team and amongst his supporters.

 

Lennon has consistently ignored or even defended occurrences of these crimes in his own ranks, proving that he is more concerned with attacking Muslims than actually combatting CSE or challenging sexual violence.

 

Notoriously, in June 2010 Lennon’s close friend and ally Richard Price was convicted of making four indecent images of children, and possessing cocaine and crack cocaine.[i] The vile images were found on his computer by police after he was arrested for disturbances at an EDL demonstration.

 

Far from condemning Price’s crimes, the EDL launched a campaign for his release. Lennon himself wholeheartedly supported Price, claiming he had been “stitched up” and that “Price has no idea how they were on his computer.”[ii] When Lennon’s claims became untenable, he switched positions and finally condemned him.

 

On 4 January 2011, six months after the conviction, Lennon released a statement attempting to distance himself and the EDL from Price, falsely claiming that at “no time has pricey ever been a leader of the EDL.” This was a lie, as on 4 June 2010 Lennon himself wrote that “The EDL have only this “Leadership” just for the record ….. Myself […] and Richard Price, we are the earliest founding members.” Lennon first defended a paedophile, and then lied about his association with him to protect his own and the EDL’s reputation.

Paedophiles in the English Defence League

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For all its talk of Muslim paedophiles, the EDL was a hotbed of sex offenders. Since its formation, there have been at least 20 members and supporters convicted of child sexual exploitation offences. At least 10 of these were active in the EDL while Lennon was still leading it, and we are yet to find a single condemnation from Lennon.

 

Each of the following cases are perpetrators who were active in the EDL while Lennon was still leader:

 

Perhaps the most shocking case is that of Robert Ewing, who murdered the schoolgirl Paige Chivers after developing an “inappropriate sexual interest” in her.[iii] He was later prosecuted for abusing two other children in the 1990s.[iv] It later emerged that in 2013, Ewing wrote on Facebook, “Iv taken an interest in the EDL and iv attended a couple of demo’s.”[v]

 

Leigh Mcmillan, a senior EDL figure during Lennon’s time as leader who was active in the Lee Rigby campaign, was sentenced to 17 years after abusing a 10 year-old schoolgirl 100 times in the mid-1990s.[vi]

 

In 2010, the EDL supporter Brett Moses was given a 12-month prison sentence suspended for two years, after he plead guilty to sexual grooming.[vii]

 

In 2011 John Broomfield, an active EDL supporter, admitted 20 counts of making indecent images of children. After his arrest alongside six others for conspiracy to cause an explosion – charges that were later dropped – the police found 236 indecent images depicting children and babies on his computers.[viii]

 

Also in 2011, Michael Coates was charged with a series of sex offences, including two attempted ****s. At the time he was active in the EDL splinter group the North West Infidels (NWI). Their leader, John Shaw, confirmed he had been active in the EDL previously, writing: “He like the rest of us was edl first then NWI.”[ix]

 

In 2011, a gang of racists attacked Redbridge Islamic Centre. During the attack they hurled racist abuse at those inside, including repeatedly shouting “EDL”. Later it emerged that Elliot Jones, one of the attackers on that day, was convicted of trying to incite a child into sexual activity.[x]

 

Mark “Archie” Sleman was an EDL supporter active in London and Exeter and was known for running the Church of the Templars, which was mainly made up of EDL members. It transpired that he had been imprisoned for nine years in 1994 for the kidnap and **** of a ten-year-old girl.[xi]

 

In 2012 the well-known EDL member and regular demonstration attender Matthew Woodward was charged with possession of images of children as young as ten years old, and a video recording of another child.[xii]

 

Michael Kinnear was active in the EDL and is known to have attended a demonstration in July 2013 at which Lennon spoke.[xiii] 

 

In 2015 he was jailed after police found images on his mobile of a primary school aged girl “performing a type of striptease” and in state of undress.[xiv]

Mentions: Meanwhile in Scotland...

windyrockbell [2805009]

Mass deportation would just exacerbate the self immolation the UK has put itself through from Brexit.

 

Still if nearly a decade of voting for further self humiliation has shown, a lot of Brits would rather be impoverished than subjected to having to see a brown person.

Magical_Toaster [3218279]

You're using a bunch of Pedophilic  crypto-zionists like edl and Tommy Robinson who are using this as an opportunity to garner support for israel's casus belli on palestine.

No one in this uprising supports these people or even know who they are. 


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Ducky [2746278]

For the first time in my life living in the UK its a terrifying thought to know what my daughter might be growing up into. The streets are literally insane at the moment. My hometown staged a "peaceful protest" today. Pfft call it was it is, it was an organised riot. 

 

Innocents seeing they're livelihoods destroyed by thugs. Half these people don't even know why they're there other than to cause trouble! What happened in Southport is sickening to those poor children attending a dance class but to use that tragedy as an excuse to riot over different agendas is beyond me. 

 

There is hope as various communities have joined together to clean up the destruction left behind by these thugs. But it is a very scary thought of what might happen. I don't care about myself, but fear for my 4 year old what life she might be growing up in.