Hia,
wondering which coding reduction times stack. Like the Education, stocks and company perks. It would be over 130% reduction with all those combined but I sincerely doubt that’s the case?
Coding Reduction Time
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Case. Explanation Case 1 (-10%) CMT2580 complete Case 2 (-30%) CMT2580 + CMT2600 complete Case 3 (-50%) IIL stock block OR Game Shop/Cyber Cafe/Software Corporation 1* Company Special Case 4 (-65%) Both Education AND IIL OR Company Special Case 5 …
i would assume they stack on each other, but multiplicatively, not additively
if you don't understand what that means, here's a quick example: if education reduced it by 50% (idk the actual number) and a company perk also reduced it by 50%, the education would reduce the original 100% time to 50%, and then the company perk would reduce 50% of that, not of the original, making the final number 25% of the original
| Case. | Explanation |
|---|---|
| Case 1 | (-10%) CMT2580 complete |
| Case 2 | (-30%) CMT2580 + CMT2600 complete |
| Case 3 | (-50%) IIL stock block OR Game Shop/Cyber Cafe/Software Corporation 1* Company Special |
| Case 4 | (-65%) Both Education AND IIL OR Company Special |
| Case 5 | (-82.50%) Both Education AND IIL AND Company Special |
| Virus | Base | Case 1 | Case 2 | Case 3 | Case 4 | Case 5 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simple Virus | 10 days | 9 days | 7 days | 5 days | 3.5 days | 1.75 days |
| Polymorphic Virus | 25 days | 22.5 days | 17.5 days | 12.5 days | 8.75 days | 4.38 days |
| Tunneling Virus | 40 days | 36 days | 28 days | 20 days | 14 days | 7 days |
| Armored Virus | 60 days | 54 days | 42 days | 30 days | 21 days | 10.5 days |
| Stealth Virus | 100 days | 90 days | 70 days | 50 days | 35 days | 17.5 days |
| Firewalk Virus | 120 days | 108 days | 84 days | 60 days | 42 days | 21 days |
Everything in Torn is additive rather than multiplicative, it's just easier to keep balance that way if devs want more? Just make the number higher where they want it, no weird interactions.
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You just contradicted yourself? That table showing the combinations of things being multiplied AND added..
The only part of that which is additive are the two education courses (because your education personal perks are all additive) so those two combine additively before then being multiplactively combined with the other separate reduction sources.
Whatever it is, as a case 5, these numbers for coding times are correct
Nope. 10%+20%-30%
Example of additive you add %s then modify so 100 minutes would be 110, then 130
Multiplicative would be 100 minutes +10%->110 +20% ->132 etc.
An easy way to see that it's additive is take base and case 3 (50%) reduction, it's exactly half. If it were multiplicative it'd be reduced by MORE than half.
So stealth 100 days -10% = 90 -20% = 72 - 20% = 57.6 instead of 50 (since it's subtracting rather than adding instead of getting higher faster it'd go lower slower.
But yeah additive it's 50 days, if it were multiplicative it'd be 57.6 days.
I said the two education courses were the two which ARE additive.
But those are then applied multiplcatively with the other separate non-education sources.
This is why case 4 in the table (both educations plus one of the two 50% bonuses from stock OR company) is a 65% reduction
1 * 0.7 x 0.5 = 0.35 (35% of the original = 65% reduction)
If you were adding them all together instead of applying them separately it would be an 80% reduction.