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Meshes [2787654]

Juneteenth, officially Juneteenth National Independence Day, is a federal holiday in the United States. It is celebrated annually on June 19 to commemorate the end of slavery in the United States.

Penetration [2340613]

This would be less familiar to you because the English allowed slavery until April 2010.

 

Edit: Imagine getting upset with someone for bringing awareness to the forced servitude of people. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Qara [2787076]

Shoosh

 

 

The Slave Trade Act 1807: Made the buying and selling of enslaved people illegal across the British Empire.The Slavery Abolition Act 1833: Outlawed the actual ownership and practice of slavery, with full emancipation taking effect across most of the Empire in August 1834.

Herodotus [1670169]

Juneteenth is a fantastic day to read and celebrate Black History! I'm spending the afternoon perusing W.E.B Dubois' Black Reconstruction in America. 

LilFluffyClouds [3633676]

The claim that England allowed slavery until April 2010 is misleading and conflates two distinct legal concepts. While it is true that a specific legal provision defining the crime of "slavery" was not formally added to UK statute until April 2015 (often misremembered as 2010 in online discussions), owning a person and the practice of slavery itself were illegal much earlier. 

 

1772: The landmark Somerset v Stewart case established that slavery had no basis in English Common Law, effectively making it illegal within England and Wales. 

 

1833: The Slavery Abolition Act made it illegal to own enslaved people throughout most of the British Empire, with full emancipation occurring in 1838.

 

Therefore, while the specific statutory definition of modern slavery offenses was updated in the 2010s, the ownership of humans was prohibited in England by the 18th century and empire-wide by the 19th century.

 

The 2015 legislation (not 2010) was largely a formality to close loopholes regarding modern forced labor and trafficking, which are distinct from historical chattel slavery. 

AtPrick [4279535]

Its amazing that people think slavery is some sort of new f'n concept. Its been around ,before organized religion and the idea of "humanity ". To pun that shit on one group is insane. 

Sweeney_Todd [27468]

The english were the first to stop african slavery to america while the rest of europe took time to follow, so fuck you and learn some fucking history...

Penetration [2340613]

Forget history for a moment and pay attention to things happening in your modern life.

 

It was (and may still be) a relatively common practice to enslave people (human trafficking) in the UK, just like in Canada and the US. The difference being, it was much harder to do something about it in the UK. People would be abducted in other countries or brought to the UK under false pretenses, then kept in no uncertain terms as slaves, unable to escape the estates they were confined to and without representation as illegal immigrants. After 2010 this became actually prosecutable with the loop hole closed, so I expect the practice isn't so much practiced anymore.

 

Slavery was technically legal in the United Kingdom (specifically England, Wales, and Northern Ireland) until April 6, 2010. [1, 2, 3]

This quirk of legal history comes down to a distinction between making slavery practically impossible and explicitly making it a standalone statutory crime. [1, 2]

Why it was "Technically" Legal

  • No Specific Criminal Offense: While the UK abolished the transatlantic slave trade in 1807slavery across the British Empire in 18331, 2, 3, 4] and the institution of , it never actually created a specific criminal offense in domestic law for holding a person in slavery. [
  • The Common Law Assumption: English Common Law assumed the status of a "slave" simply did not exist in the UK1, 2]. Because the status didn't legally exist, lawmakers felt a specific criminal charge of "enslavement" was unnecessary. [
  • The Prosecutorial Problem: If a modern-day human trafficker or abusive employer held someone in forced domestic or industrial servitude, prosecutors could not charge them with "slavery". Instead, they had to rely on peripheral charges like false imprisonment, kidnapping, or assault.

 

 

The Slave Trade Act 1807: Made the buying and selling of enslaved people illegal across the British Empire.The Slavery Abolition Act 1833: Outlawed the actual ownership and practice of slavery, with full emancipation taking effect across most of the Empire in August 1834.

 

 

If you don't know what's happening in your own lifetime, I doubt you know that much about 200 year old history written by the English. 

 

Learn some history, he says.

Penetration [2340613]

I'll further educate, as Juneteenth should be an avenue for awareness.

 

The US has the highest absolute number of modern slaves in the Western world, with estimates from the Walk Free Foundation400,000 to 1.1 million people. Exploitation is heavily concentrated in forced labor within agriculture, domestic servitude, and commercial sexual exploitation.1, 2, 3, 4, 5] placing the figure at over [

 

The UK (second highest) has recorded significant upward spikes in modern slavery offences. Tens of thousands of estimated victims are trapped primarily in forced labor (e.g., hand car washes, nail salons, cannabis cultivation) and sexual exploitation.1, 2, 3] [

Sweeney_Todd [27468]

Abraham Lincoln before he got cold feet? Fucked a lot of his slaves, just saying... 

 

Americans want and needed them, we just supplied them with help from other african tribes...

Penetration [2340613]

Sure, when does the US plan to end slavery? I'll be happy to celebrate when it's over.

 

Today if you take the average estimate of current slaves in the US, 750,000 - that is 18.96% of the number of registered slaves at the peak of legal slavery in the US. Estimates go as high as 27.8%. 

 

So there are 1/5 to 1/3 the slaves in the US today as during peak slavery. That doesn't sound like victory. 

 

If your family was going to be murdered and the police saved 4/5 of them, would you consider that something to celebrate?

 

Annual Inflow: Government and academic studies estimate that 15,000 to 50,000 new foreign nationals and hundreds of thousands of domestic citizens (primarily vulnerable or runaway youth) are trafficked into labor or sexual slavery every single year within the US.1, 2] [

 

Don't shit on me for bringing awareness to the problem still existing.