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I  would understand if it was a little fires (trash can,  bench , some bushes) , but we are given  instructions from some one and getting paid fee  for the service  and we burn Castles, Warehouses and other business.  I think this is the definition of  Illicit services - Do something illegal for a fee.  Am I wrong ?  English is my second language I may be missing some nuances  of the definition. 

Edit: Some  people think I ask because of the merit. I don`t ask, because of that.I am doing the 10k merit yes, but I genuinely did not know it was vandalism crime in other countries.   Now I know. You live and you learn. 

Did  I miss some announcement or something?  This is the first time I see this game anywhere outside of this game, so I am curious how did Ched help ?

SKG plans coming to fruition / Ubisoft sued by consumer watchdog.

Video : https://youtu.be/SmXZpf3K0ow?t=822 

Edit: Added the name of the clip so you can search for it on your own  if you don`t want to click on the link.  It is at 822 sec. 

Greetings,

I would like to make a suggestion. It would be nice when we receive the event for the finished race to be added "you have gained xxxx racing skill"  or in the case of official race "and have received 2 racing points and xxxx racing skill".

Thank you for your time!

Regards:
Zupcho

That is incorrect. It use to be better to wait when the gym  gains had a cap. Not that gyms give more stats  the higher your current stats are and have no cap in the long run the compound effect will give you more than 1 % gains.

I can feel your pain. 36 eggs - 0 Golden . 

Thank you for the information. It is good to see that the creator of the game I have played for 20 + years tries to positively change the world.  

Edit.

P.S. Now if you could just spawn the  "damn" Golden Egg for me that would be great. :) 

That is correct it is a guy talking and the Torn logo with little to none information. That is why I ask how is Torn helping Them.  That is the entire reason I made this post.  Is it "just sponsor "  or  somewhere on Discord or a forum post it was mentioned  that they are working with them for this or that. I  just like to know what the deal is because I like  what the "Stop Killing Games" is doing and I am happy that Torn is helping them. 

I don`t want to make people watch the video I just wan`t some Information If it is available. 

Good point. I have added the name of the  clip so ppl can  search for it  on their own . 

Did  I miss some announcement or something?  This is the first time I see this game anywhere outside of this game, so I am curious how did Ched help ?

SKG plans coming to fruition / Ubisoft sued by consumer watchdog.

Video : https://youtu.be/SmXZpf3K0ow?t=822 

Edit: Added the name of the clip so you can search for it on your own  if you don`t want to click on the link.  It is at 822 sec. 

They should  have  made the merit  be  called "Home chemistry"  or "Discount Nuke" use ALL possible  accelerants types in a single  job.  

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Probably overkill, but better to do it once correctly than do it twice.  

This is repost of what I have said on the other arson guide

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Hans-Gruber [2631050]

Any news on how to get the 30 second burn merit?

 

I was thinking just fill to the brime with gasoline and throw a molotov?

Yeah  i tried it on Casino today   7 cans of gasoline  1 diesel 2 magnesium shavings 1 potassium nitrate 1 Molotov  and still need to use 1 magnesium  to burn it to 100% . It was  over a minute.  The entire time it was  Max on the Burn and Intensity indicator. It took them  5 + min  to stop the fire when the  Firefighters came , but  it was not fast . 

I suspect that it will be  one special building that can be burned really fast , not all big buildings . It will be  some type of factory, because i have noticed  that almost all of the buildings have slow down around 90 - 95 % where you need to stroke it or it will stop the fire, but one - "The  Fertilizer Factory"  it  actually begins to burn  faster the higher the % goes , not the other way around.

You can burn  almost all buildings with 1 can  of gasoline  per flame and one stroke of potassium when it slows down . So  That  is why i think it will be Oil rig or something like that, because it has fuel on the premises that can explode. "

Yeah  i tried it on Casino today   7 cans of gasoline  1 diesel 2 magnesium shavings 1 potassium nitrate 1 Molotov  and still need to use 1 magnesium  to burn it to 100% . It was  over a minute.  The entire time it was  Max on the Burn and Intensity indicator. It took them  5 + min  to stop the fire when the  Firefighters came , but  it was not fast . 

I suspect that it will be  one special building that can be burned really fast , not all big buildings . It will be  some type of factory, because i have noticed  that almost all of the buildings have slow down around 90 - 95 % where you need to stroke it or it will stop the fire, but one - "The  Fertilizer Factory"  it  actually begins to burn  faster the higher the % goes , not the other way around.

You can burn  almost all buildings with 1 can  of gasoline  per flame and one stroke of potassium when it slows down . So  That  is why i think it will be Oil rig or something like that, because it has fuel on the premises that can explode. 

Kidnaping for money is  Illicit Services so is K&R in some countries.  :) 

As for the merit part I am at 7900 so I have the same problem, but this is not why I ask. I genuinely  did not know arson is vandalism crime in some countries. In my country the term is used for petty destruction or defacing of property only.    

What is with the quote system . I respond to one thing  and the person edit the post it change it for me to. WTF 

Arson  by it self it is not  a crime . You can burn your house to the ground if you want to and if no damage is done to neighboring properties and you don`t want insurance  money  you have not committed  a crime. Think burning fields after crops. Is it bad for the soil?  - Yes.    Is it a crime ?  In most countries not and in some depends on the season. 

I was confused, because in  some countries doing it for profit adds more penalties and in some cases even changes what the crime is called. 

Think.   Assault - aggravated assault - and if you say "Die  you F**king G*y" it becomes a hate crime in the USA.

In my countries i think you just take the bigger charge and go with it. 

Example :  I spray paint a wall - it is vandalism - I am asked to spray paint it so the owner can claim insurance - it is now fraud. I am asked to do it to scare people and they move out  - now it is  gang related conspiracies or if it is based on religion or ethnicity can even become domestic terrorism charge (yeah i know far fetched but in a countries with pending war you can reach that conclusion).

So for me burning stuff because you are pyro = vandalism. Burning it for a Fee changes it to Illicit Service . But I guess in some countries it is just a vandalism charge with added penalties.     

P.S. 

"From a gameplay point of view, any crime which does not directly pay out in cash or items will require us fulfilling jobs for people - that is how we'd be getting paid. To maintain a balance, we cannot classify all those crimes as illicit services."    

That make sense. 

I  would understand if it was a little fires (trash can,  bench , some bushes) , but we are given  instructions from some one and getting paid fee  for the service  and we burn Castles, Warehouses and other business.  I think this is the definition of  Illicit services - Do something illegal for a fee.  Am I wrong ?  English is my second language I may be missing some nuances  of the definition. 

Edit: Some  people think I ask because of the merit. I don`t ask, because of that.I am doing the 10k merit yes, but I genuinely did not know it was vandalism crime in other countries.   Now I know. You live and you learn. 

Greetings,

I would like to make a suggestion. It would be nice when we receive the event for the finished race to be added "you have gained xxxx racing skill"  or in the case of official race "and have received 2 racing points and xxxx racing skill".

Thank you for your time!

Regards:
Zupcho

Since my last post i have found another red, green and brown so total of 31 eggs and no Gold, the only one i have not found.  And since i know witch countries i have visited before i made 23 eggs i could double check them and no golden egg was found and it was not in Torn  the order must be random or something in the script for spawning the golden egg is preventing me from see it i.e it has some check to prevent it from been picked by bots scripts or anything else and so it is not showing for  normal users in some cases too. I don't use scripts  to look for the eggs it is cheating and it is security risk so in theory i should see it, i also use dark mode so big glowing golden egg  will stick so i cant miss it. 

Well lets hope next year they implement failsafe like the one i proposed in my last post  or i have better luck . :)  

No, it is not true.  Checked every country (double checked every page in every country)  checked multiple times all of the pages listed in the forum treads and  i could not find the gold egg and i had most of the week as you can see after it has to be spawned by your theory.

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Bonus  how much I made last year from  the black egg. :)  

I thing the game should have protection for this scenario - if you have not  picked the golden egg , every egg after you have to pick it should be golden and then switch the others when you pick 1 golden egg.