Hey all,
I know that nerve is one of those 'useless' kinda stats that doesn't really contribute to much in the game, but if they change it one day to reward people with high nerve bars, you're going to be annoyed you didn't use the opportunity to maximize it.
What is CE?
Nerve bar is based on your Cr back-end CE is your natural nerve bar value. This is the amout the hidden levels of CE in the back end of Torn. It starts at 10 and caExperience (CE) in the game. Any crime you drime ay to 'view' youo, and anyone you bust, adds a static amount to your CE. This is a hidden stat, anonly wps out at 60.
CE affects your chance of success on anHence, you should only progress to harder crimes as your natural nerve bar rises (the only way to tell whereabouts your CE is at). You can also improve this sucnce of sy particular crime. The higher your CE, the better chance you have of performing a crime. You have to have a certbefore some crimes cess b able to be successful. If you attempt a crime too hard for your particular level of CE, you'll either fail it (blue result) or led (red result). uccehtly (2%). Thy mre are 17erits, and by the faction special enormity. Also, each crime has a crime enhancer item you can buy to improve the chawill bee crime enhancer items in total, as there are 17 types of crimes.
So what crimes should I do?
There are 2 paths to take with crimes. The first is achieving 60 natural nerve bar, to participate in Politicrime experience gain for merits, as some merits requou to do crimes that send you to jail, butWoman
Businessman you do not have to come baccompleteese merits later, when the cost is much greater.
the 5 nerve crime - 'Pickpoc
15-20 NNB: Performket Someone'
Kid
Old
Once you hit 20 NNB: Perform the 7 nerve crime - 'Thoroughey hit 20 N Robbery'.
Perform the 'Thorough Robbery' armed robbery crime. You may have to do this crime over 1000 times to move to 25 NNB. Some people report that they have trouble with this crime imtely after thNB, so if you do, just go back to mugging the businessman for 50-100 and then try again.
Once you hit 25 NNB: Perform the 9 nerve crime - 'Stealth Virus' (see first sentence though)
If you have no merits in crime successue doing the 7 nerve 'Thorough Robbery' for 200-300 more. You will need to get your CE up a little higher if you havo merits or specials in the faction to be successful with Stealth Virus.
Once you hit 30 NNB: Perform the 11 nerve crime - 'Warehouse Arson'
Hopefully you've got your drivers license now, so it's time to gccou will get hoet a gas can from the market (cheaper than spending points on it).
Warehouse really really high sucs rate, so you're able to start doing it as soon as you hit 30 NNB as long as you have some merits in Crime Scess and the Criminality Faction upgrades for crime suspitalized in sog like 1 in 30 attempts, so keep some morphine on you.
Once you hiArson has at 40 NNB:
Perform the 10 nerve crime - 'Mob Boss'
Perform thenerve cthe 11 nervrime - 'Kidnap the Mayor'
Perform e crime - 'Ware 15 house Arson'
SO, Once you hit 45 N
If, however, you'd like to stop pushing your CE and try to go for some merits, there are some you can achieve with zero risk. I have listed these below, with their relative success rates. They are:
d merit: Do the 11 nerve, WNB... how do you keep it safe?Onwards to 60nnb! With the recent changes to nerve bar, you should just continue doing the safe crimes that you were doing at 40nnb.
For the thefts merit: Do the l From Clothes Shop, Jacket crime. Jacket success percentaeople agree thage is 100%. If you ever steal a jacket and get a blue f to get jailed. Instead, jailure, please screenshot and let me know.
For the Murder merit: Do the 10 nerve, Assassinate a Mob Boss crime. Many pt 'Assassinate a Mob Boss' is the easiest to do. This crime does not hanceust like Arson, you'll only go to hospital if you fail. Assassination crime success is around 75%
For the fraua4 nerve, Shoplift, Stearese Arson crime. Pretty straightforward. No need to do any other fraud crimes. Arson crime success rate is about 95%, with 4% chance to get hospitalized, and 1% chance to fail.
Organized Crimes - I will mention OC's here at the end, too. They grally aren't big respect or money earners, but over time, they can provide a decent boost to a factions coffers and ct. A lot of the lower ones don't give much benefit. But they DO increase your crime experience on top of the normal nerve bar crimes, at no cost to the players, so I think it's importaicipate.
New Crime Experience Data in 2018:
This section will be for the number neo like this stuff.
So one of the more interesting projects I've been personally doing, once I hit 60 nnb, is deliberately dog Crimes, and getting jailed, and then cting how many 'safe'imes it takes to regain my 6 safe crime, so I could get a0 nnb after ng. This has been interesting to get a general understanding of which crimes give the most CE, and getting more accurate numbers in success rates, etc.
did Arson as the simultaneoequation of how many drug successes were equal to arson successes. Given that once I hit 60 nnwould succeed a certain number crimes before getting jailed, and then succeed a certain number of arsons to regain 60 nnb, I could work out the relatCE power of arson vs drug.
This gave me the calculation that 1 n success is roughly equal to 2 drug successes of CE.
It also helped me determine ompare how mathat 1 jailing from a drug crime causes around 150 arsons worth of CE loss at 60 nnb. This would be beneficial going forward, as all I weed to do is cny successes each of her safe crimes took to regain 60 nnb, and divide that by 150 to get the relative CE pow that crime compared to Arson.
So then I proceeded to go and test the followimes, and gathered their relative power as follows:
Stealing jackets: ~670 required to regain 60 nnb = 1/4x Arson CE
0 nnb = 3/2x Arson CE
Stealth virus: ~876 required to regain 60 nnb = 1/6 Arson CE
Steal a parked to regain 60 nnb = 7/3 Arson CE
ThorouberyKidnap the mayor: ~37 required to regain 60 nnb = 3.65x Arson CE
Assassinate the oss: ~105 required n 6: ~295 required to regain 60 nnb = 6.1/3 Arson CE.
I'm currently in the process of re-testing Kidnapping the Mayor, and will update this once I've successfully regained 60 nnb, but for the time being this lets uelative power analysis of each e, and its ability to incre CE. Again, bearing in mind this is not related to merits, as certain crimes gain more merits than others for less nerve cost, this is purely about which cribest at regaining, or building CE.
So if we take the lowest CE gainer, jacket th a base value of 1 'unit' (n) of CE, and then work out how many 'units' of CE you gain for each particular crime given, say, 1000 nerve, we can do the follog calculations:
UPDATE MAY 2018! - ORGANIZED CRIMES!
So for the last 6 months or so, I've been getting some help in testing the values of Organized Crimes, shoutout to CrazedOne (1915023) from Chain Reaction particularly for his help and up with soinvolvement.
During testing of re-gaining 60 nnb, ting amI and others have been seeing how many fewer Arsons are and comirequired when succeeding an OC in this period,ng me interesounts of 'CE' each OC are worth. And so, I present to you, a few of the ESTIMATED value of the particular OC's, in their arson value:
Taking over a Cruise Liner: ~73 arsons CE
Hijacking a Plane: ~144 arsons CE
Political Assassination: ~2000 arsons CE
Yes, that's right. I was lucky enough to be put into a successful Political Assassination a couple of weeks say, ago, and it took FOURTEEN drug failures to drop from 60 nnb after the success. C5 arsons worth of drug crimes and arsons that were successful at the same time, this gives me a rough estimate of aombined with the ~26round 2000 arsons worth. (Assuming each drug failure is approx. 150-160 arsons worth of CE at 60 nnb). Of course, this number is quite rough, but needless toastounding nonetheless.
The Cruise Liner and Hijacking OC's were tested multiple times, and whilst the values always are slightly different, the rough estimates are pretty close. I have only done the Political Asest once, so if you are an OC planner and you might be able to organize another PA with similar conditions to what I did, please let me know so we can get some more data and confirm the estimate.
ng. If you like some of the in
UPDATE FEBRUARY 2019:sassination t
se enough' at this stage, and I won't be re-hem unless someone or multiple other people want to help me and do the same thing. I won't be making any more updates to this guide in the near future unless things change or glaring
I have officially stopped getting jailed at 60 nnb and regaining over and over. It's too time consuming and frustrating to constantly sit on this boundary, as well as excluding me from higher OC's. My numbers are 'clo mistakdoing tes are identified. Thanks for all the support and comments!
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Thanks for readiformation or advice here, please feew me an upvote.
Cheers.
I know that nerve is one of those 'useless' kinda stats that doesn't really contribute to much in the game, but if they change it one day to reward people with high nerve bars, you're going to be annoyed you didn't use the opportunity to maximize it.
What is CE?
Nerve bar is based on your Cr back-end CE is your natural nerve bar value. This is the amout the hidden levels of CE in the back end of Torn. It starts at 10 and caExperience (CE) in the game. Any crime you drime ay to 'view' youo, and anyone you bust, adds a static amount to your CE. This is a hidden stat, anonly wps out at 60.
CE affects your chance of success on anHence, you should only progress to harder crimes as your natural nerve bar rises (the only way to tell whereabouts your CE is at). You can also improve this sucnce of sy particular crime. The higher your CE, the better chance you have of performing a crime. You have to have a certbefore some crimes cess b able to be successful. If you attempt a crime too hard for your particular level of CE, you'll either fail it (blue result) or led (red result). uccehtly (2%). Thy mre are 17erits, and by the faction special enormity. Also, each crime has a crime enhancer item you can buy to improve the chawill bee crime enhancer items in total, as there are 17 types of crimes.
So what crimes should I do?
There are 2 paths to take with crimes. The first is achieving 60 natural nerve bar, to participate in Politicrime experience gain for merits, as some merits requou to do crimes that send you to jail, butWoman
Businessman you do not have to come baccompleteese merits later, when the cost is much greater.
the 5 nerve crime - 'Pickpoc
15-20 NNB: Performket Someone'
Kid
Old
Once you hit 20 NNB: Perform the 7 nerve crime - 'Thoroughey hit 20 N Robbery'.
Perform the 'Thorough Robbery' armed robbery crime. You may have to do this crime over 1000 times to move to 25 NNB. Some people report that they have trouble with this crime imtely after thNB, so if you do, just go back to mugging the businessman for 50-100 and then try again.
Once you hit 25 NNB: Perform the 9 nerve crime - 'Stealth Virus' (see first sentence though)
If you have no merits in crime successue doing the 7 nerve 'Thorough Robbery' for 200-300 more. You will need to get your CE up a little higher if you havo merits or specials in the faction to be successful with Stealth Virus.
Once you hit 30 NNB: Perform the 11 nerve crime - 'Warehouse Arson'
Hopefully you've got your drivers license now, so it's time to gccou will get hoet a gas can from the market (cheaper than spending points on it).
Warehouse really really high sucs rate, so you're able to start doing it as soon as you hit 30 NNB as long as you have some merits in Crime Scess and the Criminality Faction upgrades for crime suspitalized in sog like 1 in 30 attempts, so keep some morphine on you.
Once you hiArson has at 40 NNB:
Perform the 10 nerve crime - 'Mob Boss'
Perform thenerve cthe 11 nervrime - 'Kidnap the Mayor'
Perform e crime - 'Ware 15 house Arson'
SO, Once you hit 45 N
If, however, you'd like to stop pushing your CE and try to go for some merits, there are some you can achieve with zero risk. I have listed these below, with their relative success rates. They are:
d merit: Do the 11 nerve, WNB... how do you keep it safe?Onwards to 60nnb! With the recent changes to nerve bar, you should just continue doing the safe crimes that you were doing at 40nnb.
For the thefts merit: Do the l From Clothes Shop, Jacket crime. Jacket success percentaeople agree thage is 100%. If you ever steal a jacket and get a blue f to get jailed. Instead, jailure, please screenshot and let me know.
For the Murder merit: Do the 10 nerve, Assassinate a Mob Boss crime. Many pt 'Assassinate a Mob Boss' is the easiest to do. This crime does not hanceust like Arson, you'll only go to hospital if you fail. Assassination crime success is around 75%
For the fraua4 nerve, Shoplift, Stearese Arson crime. Pretty straightforward. No need to do any other fraud crimes. Arson crime success rate is about 95%, with 4% chance to get hospitalized, and 1% chance to fail.
Organized Crimes - I will mention OC's here at the end, too. They grally aren't big respect or money earners, but over time, they can provide a decent boost to a factions coffers and ct. A lot of the lower ones don't give much benefit. But they DO increase your crime experience on top of the normal nerve bar crimes, at no cost to the players, so I think it's importaicipate.
New Crime Experience Data in 2018:
This section will be for the number neo like this stuff.
So one of the more interesting projects I've been personally doing, once I hit 60 nnb, is deliberately dog Crimes, and getting jailed, and then cting how many 'safe'imes it takes to regain my 6 safe crime, so I could get a0 nnb after ng. This has been interesting to get a general understanding of which crimes give the most CE, and getting more accurate numbers in success rates, etc.
did Arson as the simultaneoequation of how many drug successes were equal to arson successes. Given that once I hit 60 nnwould succeed a certain number crimes before getting jailed, and then succeed a certain number of arsons to regain 60 nnb, I could work out the relatCE power of arson vs drug.
This gave me the calculation that 1 n success is roughly equal to 2 drug successes of CE.
It also helped me determine ompare how mathat 1 jailing from a drug crime causes around 150 arsons worth of CE loss at 60 nnb. This would be beneficial going forward, as all I weed to do is cny successes each of her safe crimes took to regain 60 nnb, and divide that by 150 to get the relative CE pow that crime compared to Arson.
So then I proceeded to go and test the followimes, and gathered their relative power as follows:
Stealing jackets: ~670 required to regain 60 nnb = 1/4x Arson CE
0 nnb = 3/2x Arson CE
Stealth virus: ~876 required to regain 60 nnb = 1/6 Arson CE
Steal a parked to regain 60 nnb = 7/3 Arson CE
ThorouberyKidnap the mayor: ~37 required to regain 60 nnb = 3.65x Arson CE
Assassinate the oss: ~105 required n 6: ~295 required to regain 60 nnb = 6.1/3 Arson CE.
I'm currently in the process of re-testing Kidnapping the Mayor, and will update this once I've successfully regained 60 nnb, but for the time being this lets uelative power analysis of each e, and its ability to incre CE. Again, bearing in mind this is not related to merits, as certain crimes gain more merits than others for less nerve cost, this is purely about which cribest at regaining, or building CE.
So if we take the lowest CE gainer, jacket th a base value of 1 'unit' (n) of CE, and then work out how many 'units' of CE you gain for each particular crime given, say, 1000 nerve, we can do the follog calculations:
UPDATE MAY 2018! - ORGANIZED CRIMES!
So for the last 6 months or so, I've been getting some help in testing the values of Organized Crimes, shoutout to CrazedOne (1915023) from Chain Reaction particularly for his help and up with soinvolvement.
During testing of re-gaining 60 nnb, ting amI and others have been seeing how many fewer Arsons are and comirequired when succeeding an OC in this period,ng me interesounts of 'CE' each OC are worth. And so, I present to you, a few of the ESTIMATED value of the particular OC's, in their arson value:
Taking over a Cruise Liner: ~73 arsons CE
Hijacking a Plane: ~144 arsons CE
Political Assassination: ~2000 arsons CE
Yes, that's right. I was lucky enough to be put into a successful Political Assassination a couple of weeks say, ago, and it took FOURTEEN drug failures to drop from 60 nnb after the success. C5 arsons worth of drug crimes and arsons that were successful at the same time, this gives me a rough estimate of aombined with the ~26round 2000 arsons worth. (Assuming each drug failure is approx. 150-160 arsons worth of CE at 60 nnb). Of course, this number is quite rough, but needless toastounding nonetheless.
The Cruise Liner and Hijacking OC's were tested multiple times, and whilst the values always are slightly different, the rough estimates are pretty close. I have only done the Political Asest once, so if you are an OC planner and you might be able to organize another PA with similar conditions to what I did, please let me know so we can get some more data and confirm the estimate.
ng. If you like some of the in
UPDATE FEBRUARY 2019:sassination t
se enough' at this stage, and I won't be re-hem unless someone or multiple other people want to help me and do the same thing. I won't be making any more updates to this guide in the near future unless things change or glaring
I have officially stopped getting jailed at 60 nnb and regaining over and over. It's too time consuming and frustrating to constantly sit on this boundary, as well as excluding me from higher OC's. My numbers are 'clo mistakdoing tes are identified. Thanks for all the support and comments!
-------------
Thanks for readiformation or advice here, please feew me an upvote.
Cheers.
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