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Who is "Someone"? A Beginner's Guide · · 143 likes

Who is this "someone" that keeps attacking me? "Someone" = a cloaked/stealthed player; most likely "someone" isn't the same person (like if you get multiple "someone" mugged/attacked you event messages)

Why do they stealth? Most players stealth attack to attempt to avoid bounties and other forms of retaliation when you see their name attacked you or mugged you. There is an honor associated with obtaining 100 stealth attacks too that someone might be working on.

Why are they stealthed? Most likely the "someone" has a much higher DEX stat than you do; the higher your DEX stat, the more likely you'll know the ID of your attacker; I think there are exceptions to this, like much higher amounts of other stats I think will also result in a stealth attack.

How do I stealth attack? You attack players that have less DEX than yourself. Most likely in the early days of playing Torn that'll be players at a lower level than you. Ex: if you're a level 5 new player and attack a fellow new player at level 1 you'll most likely get a stealth attack (although not always, it depends on their stats).

How do I reveal who the someones are? To help reveal the "someones" more often start taking education classes that increase your gym gains in DEX and give you passive DEX gain, a great program to work through is the Psychology classes. There are also education classes that decrease an opponent's stealth like the Biology class Forensic Science. You can also spend merit points to increase your passive DEX, but I know most players would recommend spending those merit points on other things...but its your choice. Most importantly though is to train your stats at the gym too!

Can a company job help me? Yes! There are some jobs that reduce an opponent's stealth like a hair salon or a music store (or if you want a guaranteed stealth attack yourself work at a theater).

Can stealth attacks be turned on/off? Yes! Some really confident players turn off their stealth; they want you to know who attacked them! (if you don't want retaliations make sure you have the setting of "use stealth whenever possible" turned on in your attack settings)

What about bounties from someone? Bounties can be made anonymous by paying extra money to make a bounty anonymous. Players will do this for similar reasons to a stealth attack: they don't want retaliation. If you work at a cyber cafe with 7 stars you can do an "IP trace" special to reveal the name of the someone that's bountying you or hire a player in the forum that advertises to do this service for you...but they'll want a fairly hefty fee for noob players.

What else can be stealthed? Players can opt to send money and items anonymously. If a player completes the Bachelor of Computer Science you can also send mail anonymously.

Whats the advantage of learning the name of my attackers? Well in the short run, probably not a lot since they're most likely still stronger than you as a whole, but not always...depending on your finances you can also bounty them, if you're in a faction you could ask other stronger faction members to attack the person for you, and/or you can keep a list in your event log of the unstealthed attackers and retaliate when you're stronger. [:evil:]

Is there any other way to reveal a someone? I had this probably rare event happen to me once: a high level player attacked me but he was interrupted by another player while attacking me, and he was hospitalized before I died. My event log revealed the name of my attacker and the name of the person who attacked him. I know there's no way I had enough DEX to see my attackers name on my own, and I don't know any other events that will trigger a player name reveal like this. Id be curious for other players input on either my event or if there are others.

Will attacks and mugs by someone ever go away? In short, most likely no. There will most likely always be players stronger than you that can stealth attack you. The best things you can do is guard against the worst parts of stealth attacks by buying medical supplies to med out of the hospital when left on the street or hospitalized and hiding your money from muggers. With a lot of hard work you can reduce the amount of stealth attacks and defend some of them off, but someones are a fact of life when playing Torn. I get attacked by someone all the time, and all the other players in Torn that aren't crazy powerful do too.


Words to the Wise- Advice for Brand New Players on Someone:
  1. There is a player that is level holding named Someone. This is not the someone that is attacking you (most likely), and this person is much, much stronger than level 1 (in fact, more like level 81). You will most likely lose if you attempt to attack the player named Someone.
  2. I don't recommend wasting your time trying to play detective and figuring out the identity of a someone. I've read some forum posts that give some vague ideas, but the reality is there's just no way to tell on your own. Accept that someone got you for now and move on to ensure someone doesn't always get the best of you.
  3. Being in a faction at a young age will guarantee a lot of "someones" will hospitalize you because they're higher level faction members pummeling you for respect points; so be cautious of joining a faction too soon!
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Updated: 4/8/16 From Contributor Woolis (thanks Woolis!)

Additional "unconventional" methods:

1) Get jailed during an incoming attack
2) Shoot ourselves in the foot during an incoming attack (Russian Roulette)
3) Get hospitalized mostly any other way which I am currently aware of during an incoming attack; failing a crime with a hospitalization result, for example
4) Hop on a plane during an incoming attack

Disclaimer: This guide is by no means exhaustive or potentially there might be errors since all this information is based off of my own gaming experiences. If you have more information on "someone" please add to the discussion!

Send a Gift to Player above you. · · 2 likes


You sent your Cannabis to ryvian with the message: only at max 49 more to go for the honor!

Travel Thread · · 8 likes



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Bounty 24 Hour Lockout · · 14 likes


Hey all,
I've been repeatedly and constantly bountied the past week, and I thought to myself, at some point getting bountied this much negatively impacts your game. I think that there should be a form of protection that if you exceed a certain weekly amount of bounties against you (let's say a pretty high number, like 140...that's 20 bounties a day) that you have a 24 hour lockout from receiving more bounties from anyone. This allows you time to regroup and refuel enough to survive the next onslaught once that 24 hr protection ends. I personally think this would add more balance to the game's dynamics.

Travel Thread · · 7 likes


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Santa's Dungeon - Safe Route? ·

Hi,
Does anyone have a map of the safe route to take in Santa's Dungeon (144,93) ? Thanks.

Server broke our chain ·


Our faction was also chaining & we had 5 attacks that were just "hanging" for minutes even though they had finished the attack before the timer ran out.  

https://snag.gy/DBpxqn.jpg

 

Malformed Server Response: No Credit for Attack ·


If it's helpful to know this, I was on php2 server when this happened.  

Won attack, says someone else got it ·


Hi Kowalski, I also just had a similar error: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=19&t=16079846&b=0&a=0.  I'm adding it here to help the bug team.  

Malformed Server Response: No Credit for Attack ·


https://www.torn.com/loader.php?sid=attackLog&ID=2ff16d33eef1f8c76bd8c766d26d65a2

I hit this player during a faction chain.  I chose the option "Leave" and I saw a dialogue box appear that said, "Malformed response".  I tried reloading the page & was successful in leaving the player, but instead of giving me credit for the attack, the attack log shows that: "(the player) was sent to hospital before Kakabu was able to finish the fight".  I've noticed some DB errors a few minutes prior to this, like 504 errors and 500 errors.  

Leveling up? ·


This question is asked over and over again, and has been answered as often as it's asked. Therefore -R for not checking the forum for this post before asking.

Law Job Special:Why doesn't it Count Toward Busts? · · 1 like


I've used the Law job special of "Get someone out of jail for 15 points" a few times, and I've noticed that even though the language of the special says that you "bust" someone out of jail it doesn't count towards my bust amount. Does anyone know why?

Those who are factionless... · · 1 like


I'm in a peaceful faction: No Wars. It gives you the merits of being in a faction with significantly less hospital time and no pressure to chain. The only "downside" is the perks that we can afford are a lot less and the odds of being able to chain are a lot less since there's very few wars and fewer coordinated attacks.

Class action lawsuit ·


I'm assuming the range of the payout can vary significantly based on whether you have IOU stocks or not yourself? Or am I not understanding something very basic here...?

I keep being attacked. ·

Guide to Someone RHino7898, also if you're wondering about "someone" I made a guide that addresses this.

Guide to Optimal High Low Strategy · · 3 likes


Emili,
For now I won't rate your guide because there are some things that don't work out in practice on your cheat sheet. Your cheat sheet is basing the guess on a "raw" deck, meaning a brand new game with an unshuffled deck, and even with a brand new unshuffled deck I still disagree with your cheat sheet's suggestion to always bet high on 8 because there's literally a 50% chance of it being higher or lower when the value is 8 in a new game...so it's truly a lucky guess if you get that one right.

Also let's say that you play well, and you make it a few rounds into a single game of high/low, the cards that were used already by the dealer and you will be subtracted from the main pool of 52 cards. So the game becomes much more of a card counting/calculating game if you make it through a few rounds because depending on the cards that were used, it might not always be in your best interest to "always" bet high with low value cards and low on high value cards.

There's also the element of the shuffle that makes card counting and winning the game because of that harder. Let's say that you play a couple games, and then you do well and go in a few rounds in a single game...and then the game says "Deck shuffled" or something like that. That replaces back all the cards that were used resetting the game back to the original odds. So you might be 10 rounds into a single game, hit a "Deck shuffled", and then when an 8 is drawn you're back to the original 50% chance. The only thing I still haven't figured out is what triggers a "Deck shuffled" because it doesn't happen every game (my guess is that when all 52 cards have been displayed over the course of multiple games that triggers the shuffle..but I'm not sure).

I'm mentioning this information as a caution that High/Low isn't "almost purely a game of chance" when you get several rounds in, but in the early stages of a game, yeah it's more like that.

I do like your modifier information.




Torns Most Hated Player - nominations CLOSED · · 3 likes


Unknown Element (450910): for the same reason as Krakfreak.

When is XMas Town Over this Year? ·


I might be blind here, but I don't think I read any mention of what Christmas Town's last day was....thanks for the help.

Duke Mission - Need a Question Answered · · 1 like


From other forum posts of a similar nature, the general consensus has been you must use fists/kicks the entire fight and nothing else.

Missions: Three-peat, agent standing ·


Grif: That's exactly why I haven't moved up to the medium difficulty missions yet. I figure why expend more effort without much reward? I'm going to wait and see for a definitive reason for me to increase the difficulty of the missions.

Who is "Someone"? A Beginner's Guide · · 1 like


That's interesting news about the level "1" "someone"!

Reveal Muggers ? · · 2 likes


I created a guide that deals with ways to reveal who "someone" is: click here. The short answer is that this "someone" will get away most likely, but you can help yourself reveal the names of the someones for next time perhaps.

Mission Question · · 3 likes


My experience with completing missions from other countries has been that the player that you can attack "blinks pink" on the people screen in countries like Japan. So do you see that this player is highlighted in pink when you're there?

Travel Thread · · 4 likes



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403 Forbidden Error When Accessing Stats Page ·


I've tried looking at my own stats page today (meaning the graph button saying "View this person's stats"), as well as other players, and the page loads with a 403 Forbidden error. The page will refresh and seem to load my stats for maybe a second and then go back to the 403 Forbidden error. I am running Chrome on Windows 8.1 OS.