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A. Ideal Education Order

B. Classes to Skip
C. Ways to Reduce Education Time

A. IDEAL EDUCATION ORDER

CLASSES CAN BE TAKEN INDIVIDUALLY AS LONG AS INTRODUCTION IS FINISHED

#1: Biology

• BIO1340: Introduction to Biochemistry

• BIO2127: Intravenous Therapy

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Reasons: 

• Highest number of minutes reduced in hospital per minute of cooldown. Useful for war when medical cooldown can get maxxed out.

• Blood bags are also cheaper than syrup for medding out.

#2: Sports Science

• First 5 courses

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Reasons: Early boost to gym gains in a reasonable timeframe. Stats you’re focused on can be taken first. 

Players in a training faction or focused heavily on stat training with expensive training methods should invest the additional time to get the bachelors for the additional 1% gym gains. Other players can move down the list. 

#3-4: WAR FOCUSED PLAYERS: Combat Training

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Reasons: Combat training bachelor’s allows you to unlock weapon EXP, which will take a significant amount of battles to unlock. Get it earlier to begin accumulating EXP.

#3-4: CRIME FOCUSED PLAYERS: Computer Science and Psychology

• CMT1520

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• CMT2230

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• CMT2130

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• CMT2131

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All of Psychology

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Reasoning: These Computer Science courses will help you farm emails for scamming much later. Psychology course will give a universal 10% Crime Skill and Crime Experience boost.

#5: Finish Sports Science or above courses. Health and Fitness Intro + Stat Boosts (ignore bachelors) or Mathematics

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Reasoning: Suggestions 1-4 are the most lucrative and generally have opportunity costs. Health and fitness provides good passive battle stats which you will benefit slightly from by this time. Bachelors is relatively useless so you don't need to complete the course.

 Mathematics has a useful bachelor as you should own a RW rifle by this point in the game, although the other classes are less useful within the degree.

#6: Your own path

At this point you will know more about the player you want to be and can potentially start on different ways to play the game. Stat % boosts from Self Defense would be a logical next step although at this point you may decide to be a business owner, museum trader, so on. 

B. CLASSES TO AVOID EARLY

General Studies: Eats up months of time for very limited work stat gains. Not necessary

Business: 7 months of education to run a low profit company. Not worth it unless you have connections willing to give you director of their company for profit sharing/faction ran.

Law: Ched has gone on record to say busting is an inefficient way to use nerve. Bailing is a waste of money. Busting merits are fun but are a late game achievement. It will take years to max, it shouldn’t be your first year/s.

HIS2160: 10% Damage with Japanese Weapons: Use a rifle. Mods and special ammo beat melee late game. 

C. WAYS TO REDUCE EDUCATION TIME:

1. Merits: Your first merits should be in education, as you won't have enough money to maximize on bank merits anyway, to start. This provides a 20% bonus to education reduction at 10 merits. Every new to mid player should have these.
   
   
2. WSU BB/Benefit Block: 1 million shares of WSU will provide you another 10% bonus to education reduction. You must own the stock for 7 days before taking the new course. It will basically charge for 7 days before becoming active. This one is trickier since it costs around 100 million to own, but is a goal you should be working towards. 
   Because the stock block is useless during the actual course, you might ask people in your faction if you can borrow their block during a longer course they have (particularly the bachelor courses). It's harder to time than the bank BB but worth a shot if your faction has good trust
   
   
3. Torn City Starter Job - Education: Tesla's City Career Fast-Tracking Guide provides more details, but becoming a Principal in the education system provides another 10% boost that you can achieve in the late early game. This is a goal you should be working towards.
   
   
4. Player Company Perks: Player owned Fitness Centers and Hair Salons both allow you to exchange 1 job point for a half hour of education reduction. A fitness center is the better company at 10 but also more difficult to be employed at due to work stat requirements. Either of these companies at 10 provide a 5 hour reduction every 24 hours which is basically a 20% bonus to reduction (there are better companies for new players than these but it's a method). 
   
   
5. Book of Carols: Book of Carols is an expensive booster item (13-14 million) that will reduce 6 hours of education time and adds a 6 hour booster cooldown. Some "dedicated newbies" might use this item to fast track education but the only time you should ever consider this item is when your education ends after you go to bed and you can save 6 hours plus whatever time you would have wasted while asleep by not entering a new course. It's debatable whether even a 7-12 hour reduction is worth it to a new player with limited cash.

You'll be alright buddy. Just turn off the phone for a minute and you'll see nothing has actually changed in your life as a result of your gambling. Big whoop

OK. Thanks for that. Considering playing torn on hard mode and being a director 

There are exceptions to some of my advice such as books and Halloween in particular. However, merit resets get more expensive each time so it's not worth optimizing several times a year in my opinion. Some choices like masterful looting can also range from F tier to S tier but my advice is for the average, younger, Torn player which is deciding some placements. Thanks for reading!

S TIER (NECESSARY): 

Education Length 10/10 - First 55 merits should be used to max education. The exception would players buying DPs or getting money incredibly fast to achieve 2B for bank investments. I removed these merits with 3 education blocks left. 

Bank Interest 10/10 - The bank should be your primary passive income and maximizing this is wise. Skipping this merit early can be fine since the average player will be paying for happy jumps and find it difficult to save. The bank and this merit upgrade should always be a primary goal, however. 

Life Points 10/10 - Life, the “5th stat”, is necessary for avoiding losses due to a single crit (or hit if assisting), using med CD efficiently (all medical items scale with HP), and generally being stronger in PvP. Buying mid or late game gear without this merit upgrade finished is foolish. You'll be buffing a smaller health pool. 

A TIER (IMPORTANT): 

Crit Rate 8/10 - 10/10 - Crit rate is arguably the second most important merit upgrade for war. Merits tend to scale faster than stats, at least early on. Leaving this upgrade at 8 or 9 is fine to be frugal with merits, but you should probably finish this later if you intend to war hard. 

Crime Progression 5/10 - 10/10 - With OC 2.0 providing reasonable payouts to newer players, crime progression is a solid choice. Crime progression can also be bolstered with faction perks, law starter job, and is more ambiguous than faster education with clear rewards which makes it A tier. 5 levels is a solid choice, in my opinion. 

B TIER (RECOMMENDED): 

Brawn, Protection, Sharpness, Evasion 3/10 -10/10 - These aren't as necessary to upgrade as a newer player but are important later on. I don't personally suggest 3 stat builds until a certain threshold has been established so upgrade these all relatively equally until you get them to at least 8. 10 would be preferred in the mid to late game. 

Rifle Mastery 3/10 - 10/10 - The most important weapon base and thus the most important mastery. I would argue to keep this relative to your stats buff levels. 

C TIER (SITUATIONAL): 

Employee Effectiveness 3/10 - This can be a solid choice if it allows you to get into a company you wouldn't otherwise, or gets you more money. I do think most people should throw a few levels in assuming they aren't a director but anything more than this should be a thoughtful decision or done after the previous perks. 

Nerve Bar - This can be useful for newer players to avoid losing nerve overnight or on flights but becomes less important over time. I don't think older players should keep merits tied up in this. If you do find yourself less active or with a small nerve bar upgrade what you need to not miss nerve. 

Masteries besides Rifle 3/10 - 10/10 - Upgrade as needed, but Rifle and stat buffs should be level 8-10 before considering these. You should be using a rifle in most cases. 

D TIER (NOT RECOMMENDED TO AVERAGE PLAYER): 

Hospitalizing - This can be useful for mercing which will come later or adding more pain to opponents which requires stats. That's not to say that this is a useful upgrade, it's just not useful very often. Other perks take priority.

Masterful Looting - The average player should not be consistently mugging. This can obviously be an S Tier perk but that will come with experience. Just don't mug and don't mug early unless you have direction/instruction from a successful mugger and more stats. 

Addiction Mitigation - Factions with max mitigation make this a less useful perk, and it has limited benefits to begin with. There's simply better perks that will grow your account faster. 

F TIER:  

Awareness - You might hear anecdotal stories about awareness finds or feel jealous when others find SEs on the map. Neither of these things make awareness a good choice, and it has very little impact to your account. I have found 3 SEs with zero awareness perks, while others have found none with, or more with, or more without, and so on. 

Stealth - By the time you might want consistent stealth mugs you should have the stats and weapons to increase this chance. Merits is not the lever to pull for this. Besides being a mugger which I've already explained to not do often, don't consistently hit people you want to hide from. Not smart. 

Flying has always been boring, unintuitive without additional tools, and mediocre profit. "Better than nothing" is hardly a positive especially when it's the only system where any player regardless of stats has an equal opportunity (and even that's a stretch when higher stat players can afford to sit and wait with cash on hand). 

Sad. She did quite well as a captain last year in a tactical sense. I know the newspaper bashed her but her biggest fault was being new in torn I think (and 42 newsletters in 3 days lol). This is enough for me to never send anything to group funding on elims, though. 

It starts at 5-9AM on a weekday for the US, or very similar, and it's just a dog pile on a couple teams both years now. 

By the time I got home from work I basically knew the event was over. Major deja vu from last year. Definitely ruins the camaraderie a little bit when there's nothing worth fighting for. 

Chats wipe out over time. 

Anyone can scroll down their messages to see this. 

There's definitely confirmed doxxing but no one is doing anything that they can't hide behind a screen to do. 

Yup. Been almost 6 months since I bought a DP and would like to extend that to 6 years. I've been back in torn for 2 years and I think we've gotten 1 new crime, elims back, and a graphics update. Plus random bazaar changes 3rd party sites do better. 

Don't forget about your experience in that furry discord! I'm sure you're a moderator by now. Can't be that much different from elims group 🙂

Stay away from anything in the torn casino that isn't the bookie. Torn is a for profit game. It's that simple. BJ for example feels like predetermined RTP with animations. The actual hands are so different from real life it's clearly not RNG. I would assume poker runs on the same vein of logic with room for huge profit due to other human players, obviously.

The fun of elims involves popping out of hosp every X minutes towards the finals (this is assuming you had a decent team to begin with) and hopefully not being teamed by politics, because there's nothing you can do in that case. 

These guys suck 😾 the beesus one especially. They've hosped me a lot before 

I almost bet against PR just to stir the pot

Ah yes. The original comments like "show me your butthole" are really what's missing on torn forums.  

I think a hilarious project would be putting the top 10 forum trolls comments into AI and seeing how close they could get to the real person. I'd imagine pretty close but I'm too lazy for that. 

Nothing has changed from my opinion last year. If you get a good group with experienced and charismatic leaders you'll have fun. If you don't, it's a waste of time and resources. 

Note to leaders: No one cares what number your Torn ID starts with, or what accolades you claim to have in Torn, real life, or anywhere else. Some people are well known and some people have the "political influence" in the game. If you're a nobody, you know it and your entire team knows it. Take a seat with the soldier ants if you're spending more time trying to convince people than doing something beneficial. You can still help and organize without an official role and start to build that name recognition for next year.

The most amazing part of this is how a random person appointed themself the AI police and judge, is blatantly disrespectful, is blatantly wrong, and then continues on their holy crusade. 

To me, this doesn't read as someone interested in the greater good of the Torn community. It reads as an arrogant individual on an ego trip.

The equivalent of $1.50 for work that passes through machine tests isn't worth significant nitpicking from Torn staff, in my opinion. 

Some people will intentionally wait out 15 -60 seconds so you feel safe. Best way to avoid this is ghost trade, wait, login, putz around forums or something, don't just pop green and take out money. 

But also delete and remake keys with lowest access possible. I delete full access keys after checking one or two things a month on these sites. And wipe keys every so often. I've had some unusual timings, as well. And I've casino banned 490 out of last 500 days and do no trading. 

No offense bud, but delving into personal attacks doesn't favor you in the slightest. Sad we can't have some nuance online, though.

I've been individually targeted by a fairly large faction family, and the actual fault, perceived or real, is irrelevant. I think it was a great use of game mechanics and resources to "teach someone a lesson". A healthy moment in Torn, even if it was difficult for me to play the way I wanted. 

What I think is bad for all parties (your faction, other faction, torn community) is gathering an entire faction or faction family to bully players that have zero clue what's happening or why they're being attacked, and who haven't interacted with the aggressors. This isn't preventing a scammer from thriving. It's preventing the community from thriving through no fault of their own.

And, people's personalities don't change from online to real life, whatever they may believe. I truly am glad for the geographical barrier when I interact with some online communities. 

Spending your own resources and gathering people together to bully unrelated parties is antisocial behavior in any context. If that's subjectively fun to people, I'm just glad I don't have to meet them in real life. 

It would be funnier if you went back to 67, but I'm guessing 92 :)