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Illicit funds removed · · 2 likes


Ok, Prowlerr was my original account that i had for maybe a month. I restarted, talked to staff , they said it was fine to send game monies to my new account, if old account was not used again. That money was purchased from you through donator packs. That explains that, and it was okayed by staff!

Tripod was my brothers account. He quit after maybe a week or two? I'm not sure, that is not my account. I have never had more than a 1b net worth so it is impossible for him to have sent me 1.8b. I sent him numerous donator packs, which he paid me for when he sold them. Then I sent him more and he paid me back again. I think you are only looking at the amounts sent to me, not what I sent him. Please check both directions. All this was done on the up and up. Have you checked how much I have purchased from you through Donator packs over the last year ? I also made money in the trade system, all legal. This is an error! I have a negative balance in my game account! How is that possible if I purchased directly from you, and made money by buying low and selling high on the trade system.

Please check how much I sent Trypod, and you will see he barely paid me back market value of the items I sent him. If you can't check what I sent him then this new system is totally screwed. I did not cheat in any way! I would not have sent staff a mail asking how to close my original account Prowlerr if I was trying to hide anything. I think i would have chosen a different name too. Lol

Chedburn, I have done nothing wrong, and you have not shown me where any illicit gains came from. Yes I sent items to Trypod, he didn't have a credit card to buy donator packs. He sold them and sent me money. This was done a few times. If every time a transaction happens, you only look at one half of the transaction it is going to look suspicious.

Please refund my game funds, Trypod has quit, I will not borrow him items anymore. I have purchased directly from your site. If you need I can check the rest of my credit card accounts to tell you how much I have spent over the last year. I spent $110.00 in just the last 4 months through PayPal. I spent much more than that earlier in the past year on a credit card.

I believe this is a simple error, sorry to be so long winded, but I feel like I am being accused of something.

I can't even play the game now because I have a -$640m balance. I paid to play, i will send a dispute to PayPal and my credit card companies if you can't see fit to fix this.

Thank you,

TheProwlerr

Messed Up Split in poker · · 2 likes


DW had AK

Neon Had AJ

Board came AA 10 10 J not in that order but that was the board.

Neon wins with Full House Aces full of Jacks

DW had more money in pot because of an all in and he started with more money.

Text read: neon wins with aces full of 10's for $$$$$ and Dw wins with aces full of 10's $$$$$

text was wrong but payout was correct.




Illicit funds removed · · 1 like


I know this was passed on to Ched.

But i need to add more info.

I have spent $110.04 just in the last 4 months from my PayPal account to TORN. I will be checking my credit card statements for more.

I never cheated, if this game money isn't returned to me I will be filing for a refund with PayPal and the other credit card companies I purchased in game currency with.

You have problems with your "Hack Catcher" .

I gave money to my in game spouse to pay rent, I gave items to my in game spouse because i was quitting. I gave money and items to a faction member, because I thought i was going to be away from the game for a while. I can not think of any other reason your Hack Catcher would have marked my account.

This is the second time this has happened, I believe it was four months ago 400m was taken from my account for trades with my brothers account. Money and Items i gave him he returned when quitting. At the time the issue was resolved, and I took the loss because i thought maybe he did something wrong. I didn't argue. Now , I know I have done nothing wrong, return my funds and the funds taken from my game spouse and faction friend.

I have won huge bets in Poker, and on side bets with friends, but that was over 6 months ago, and nothing illegal there either.

Please Fix This!

Illicit funds removed · · 0 likes


My brother is deployed to Afghanistan, not going to bother him with this shit.

He never had 1b , he had what I sent him to sell and the profit from that.

Whatever, I'm done with this slow ass game anyway.

Until I come back, 6 months from now, different account, different IP, buy a few billion game dollars off someone. Then start spreading it around to all my haters like Ultrareign [1992238].

I think I might just create a bit of chaos, actually make this game fun for me again.

Laters,

I'll lurk to see what kind of responses that gets. lol
  • Proxima [1879587] got it , will do

Illicit funds deducted · · 0 likes


Yes i read both posts.

I just had 640,000,000 deducted. 2 months ago I had money deducted and that should have covered all trades (which were legal) that I made with my brothers account. I loaned him money and he returned it when he quit. Now my whole account is negative 639m. I am a donator who has spent real money on donator packs. There is no way that I should not have money in my account. Fix this or myself and friends are cancelling donator status, and will never buy from you again.

This is bull shit ,the money taken months ago was bull shit! Fix it or I swear I will post all over the web what a scam this is. You have my money I paid you.

I read about this game on The Chive, that is how I got started playing. I am going there next to give this game a huge negative rating.

I am not a cheat . Have been playing for over a year. Torn just took another $ 49 from my account last month for donator status.

FIX THIS !

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Illicit funds removed ·


What is this Dekloren? I seriously think I need to hear about that.

Illicit funds removed ·


My brother is deployed to Afghanistan, not going to bother him with this shit.

He never had 1b , he had what I sent him to sell and the profit from that.

Whatever, I'm done with this slow ass game anyway.

Until I come back, 6 months from now, different account, different IP, buy a few billion game dollars off someone. Then start spreading it around to all my haters like Ultrareign [1992238].

I think I might just create a bit of chaos, actually make this game fun for me again.

Laters,

I'll lurk to see what kind of responses that gets. lol
  • Proxima [1879587] got it , will do

Illicit funds removed ·


Yes that is what happened. I have been completely up front about the restart. I thought it was okayed. That accounts for 22m of my illegal activity.

400m was taken from my account on 2017/10/2, and now system says I owe 1.8b . Ched has not even told me what my brother did that was illegal. Just that I received illicit funds from him.

Seriously Folks, remember this when YOU get that bold type message in your events.
  • $640,072,311 / $1,803,061,832 of illicit value has been recovered from your account. Any value that could not be recovered directly from you has been removed from other users / factions / companies it has been transferred to.
My spouse had money taken i sent her, and a faction friend had money taken because I gifted him items.

How far will it go, slippery slope.

Illicit funds removed ·


How would 2 different computers and 2 different phones have the same IP address.

Already -639m in the hole. What do I have to lose.

Ultra maybe I should tale my illicit funds, buy everything on your bazaar, and see what happens when Ched comes and takes all that money out of your account.

Do you understand yet?

Illicit funds removed ·


I don't think Chedburn is concerned. I am just one player who got screwed.

He asked what admin and what month and year. Probably to make his search easier.

Illicit funds removed ·


So if I send someone a DP and they send me 25m. We do this 4 times, did I gain 100m? That is what the system is saying. No I broke even.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

I sent items to my brother to sell so he could make a profit on them. Later he sends me items and money back, equal to what i sent him.

System says he cheated somehow, I don't know if he did, hes deployed now so I can't ask. System takes all value I ever received from him not taking into account the value of what I sent.

Illicit funds removed ·


I never cheated, I had an account for a month, wanted to restart asked an Admin if it was ok. I was told yes if I never opened that account again.

Thats what I did. Tonight, a year later, I tried to log on to give Ched the info he asked for (the Admin name and date). First time on that account since I opened this one and sent a dp to it.

I guess if restarting is cheating, then I cheated, but I was told it was okay.

The real question is why does this system think I gained 1.8b . I have never had that much, in money and items combined. My brother and I traded back and forth. the same as everyone else on here does. The system says I gained 1.8b. IMPOSSIBLE, look at my greatest net worth 1.1b .

I think everyone should be a little scared of the new system, you are going to sell something and someone who cheated is going to give you money for it and Ched is going to take that ill gained money from you, the end user.

There was no cheating going on here. The system must not be taking into account how much stuff I gave him that he repaid me for.

I have been completely honest, I have to be, because I think Chedburn can see all that was traded. If he would just look.

Illicit funds removed ·


I have had 2 accounts Prowlerr and TheProwlerr. Wasn't trying to hide anything. First account was maybe a month old.


Illicit funds removed ·


https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=19&t=16025964&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=18159987

Ultra you obviously didn't read the whole post.

I said I restarted. I was not hiding that. I thought it was fine if i never opened that account again. That's what I was told, by an admin when I posted a Player Report on myself to ask if it was legal.

Chedburn asked me who the Admin was and what the date was. I just tried to log in to find that message from the admin. I couldn't get in.

Illicit funds removed ·


I just checked my net worth, the most I ever had was $1,167,606,738. So how could I have received 1.8b ?

Obviously something is wrong. It's very easy for anyone to check my net worth. I hope this proves at least part of my point.

Please, take a look.


Illicit funds removed ·


More info.

I did a search of trypod in my events. Screen shot attached.

400m was already taken from my account, that seems like the correct amount. I thought that amount was because he cheated so I questioned it in player report, response was "he made illicit gains" so I dropped it.

I can't look that up because it was a player report on myself.

It seems like double jeopardy to be convicted twice for the same incident, that he did, not me.



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Illicit funds removed · · 1 like


So now what? Can you check trade logs between trypod and myself? Or am i done?

I want to apologize for being rude. I am accused of cheating and I haven't. I was honest and forthcoming about the restart, because I was told it was fine.

At least make my account balance $0 so I can start over. -639m is basically a boot out, might as well fed me.


Illicit funds removed ·


Ok couldn't log on Prowlerr that account is in fed.

Illicit funds removed ·


I went back through mail first mail I have on this account is 2016/09/10. I think I sent the mail from my original account Prowlerr. I haven't logged on that account since the day I started this one. I could try to log on there, to check for the mail, not sure of the pass.

But then it will show I have multis. Lol

I will try, but that only covers transfer from Prowlerr to TheProwlerr. 22m I think that was, basically a dp.

The real issue is the 1.8b transferred from trypod to TheProwlerr. How do I prove that i sent him items and he sent me payments. Numerous times. Is there a log for that? I still think 1.8b is more than double the amount ever sent.

Can you check ip address? His would be different, we lived in the same house at the time but he used a different computer and different phone.

I will try to log on my original account now . I will let you know what i find in that mail. This account is basically ****ed anyway.

Illicit funds removed · · 2 likes


Ok, Prowlerr was my original account that i had for maybe a month. I restarted, talked to staff , they said it was fine to send game monies to my new account, if old account was not used again. That money was purchased from you through donator packs. That explains that, and it was okayed by staff!

Tripod was my brothers account. He quit after maybe a week or two? I'm not sure, that is not my account. I have never had more than a 1b net worth so it is impossible for him to have sent me 1.8b. I sent him numerous donator packs, which he paid me for when he sold them. Then I sent him more and he paid me back again. I think you are only looking at the amounts sent to me, not what I sent him. Please check both directions. All this was done on the up and up. Have you checked how much I have purchased from you through Donator packs over the last year ? I also made money in the trade system, all legal. This is an error! I have a negative balance in my game account! How is that possible if I purchased directly from you, and made money by buying low and selling high on the trade system.

Please check how much I sent Trypod, and you will see he barely paid me back market value of the items I sent him. If you can't check what I sent him then this new system is totally screwed. I did not cheat in any way! I would not have sent staff a mail asking how to close my original account Prowlerr if I was trying to hide anything. I think i would have chosen a different name too. Lol

Chedburn, I have done nothing wrong, and you have not shown me where any illicit gains came from. Yes I sent items to Trypod, he didn't have a credit card to buy donator packs. He sold them and sent me money. This was done a few times. If every time a transaction happens, you only look at one half of the transaction it is going to look suspicious.

Please refund my game funds, Trypod has quit, I will not borrow him items anymore. I have purchased directly from your site. If you need I can check the rest of my credit card accounts to tell you how much I have spent over the last year. I spent $110.00 in just the last 4 months through PayPal. I spent much more than that earlier in the past year on a credit card.

I believe this is a simple error, sorry to be so long winded, but I feel like I am being accused of something.

I can't even play the game now because I have a -$640m balance. I paid to play, i will send a dispute to PayPal and my credit card companies if you can't see fit to fix this.

Thank you,

TheProwlerr

Illicit funds removed ·


AND you already took 400 or 500M from me months ago!


Illicit funds removed ·

  • $640,072,311 / $1,803,061,832 of illicit value has been recovered from your account. Any value that could not be recovered directly from you has been removed from other users / factions / companies it has been transferred to.
I just noticed $1,803,061,832 ? WTF I have never even had that much in my account!!! Something is drastically wrong with your system !

I barely went over $1bil in net worth ever!


Illicit funds removed · · 1 like


I know this was passed on to Ched.

But i need to add more info.

I have spent $110.04 just in the last 4 months from my PayPal account to TORN. I will be checking my credit card statements for more.

I never cheated, if this game money isn't returned to me I will be filing for a refund with PayPal and the other credit card companies I purchased in game currency with.

You have problems with your "Hack Catcher" .

I gave money to my in game spouse to pay rent, I gave items to my in game spouse because i was quitting. I gave money and items to a faction member, because I thought i was going to be away from the game for a while. I can not think of any other reason your Hack Catcher would have marked my account.

This is the second time this has happened, I believe it was four months ago 400m was taken from my account for trades with my brothers account. Money and Items i gave him he returned when quitting. At the time the issue was resolved, and I took the loss because i thought maybe he did something wrong. I didn't argue. Now , I know I have done nothing wrong, return my funds and the funds taken from my game spouse and faction friend.

I have won huge bets in Poker, and on side bets with friends, but that was over 6 months ago, and nothing illegal there either.

Please Fix This!

What the fund ? Another illicit profits thread ... ·


I am Elaineh's spouse, I never cheated and have spent $110.04 purchasing from TORN in just the last 4 months. That is just checking my PayPal account. If necessary I will go back through my credit card statements, to find all the rest i spent.

Illicit funds deducted ·


Yes i read both posts.

I just had 640,000,000 deducted. 2 months ago I had money deducted and that should have covered all trades (which were legal) that I made with my brothers account. I loaned him money and he returned it when he quit. Now my whole account is negative 639m. I am a donator who has spent real money on donator packs. There is no way that I should not have money in my account. Fix this or myself and friends are cancelling donator status, and will never buy from you again.

This is bull shit ,the money taken months ago was bull shit! Fix it or I swear I will post all over the web what a scam this is. You have my money I paid you.

I read about this game on The Chive, that is how I got started playing. I am going there next to give this game a huge negative rating.

I am not a cheat . Have been playing for over a year. Torn just took another $ 49 from my account last month for donator status.

FIX THIS !