Dear Tornizens, I have just witnessed an appalling abuse of staff power in favour of Relentless.
This is going to be a long one, so here’s the tl;dr first:
>Relentless extorted FLUX
>FLUX refused to pay
>bogie forced FLUX to pay under implied threat of fedding
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Last month, Relentless decided to extort FLUX for its Casino racket, worth $25m per day. Understanding that if we refused, we would be S7’d, we initially complied. We arranged to have payments made to Relentless every Sunday, and that first Sunday was paid. We did not like this. It felt scummy, giving our cash to a bunch of far wealthier players who had not earned it. Unlike most of their extortions, they had demanded 100% of our racket’s wealth.
The next Sunday rolled around, and we decided to let Relentless come and take the money for themselves: we were not going to pay. Money was not sent, and Relentless failed to stick to their threat. The next Sunday came, and ItsZahid proceeded to begin berating us for not paying up. ItsZahid then noticed that our leader, Swatsicle, was a committee member, and proceeded to accuse us of scamming him by not surrendering to the extortion attempt.
This was obviously nonsense. We could hardly believe that anyone would think that FLUX refusing to be extorted by Relentless could be considered us scamming them. As my friend Waifu put it, “this is beyond r*tarded, like actual knuckle dragging levels of r*tardation”. Shortly, however, Swatsicle was contacted by bogie, who had mysteriously thought that Relentless had a case here. Debate was had, but every argument put forward by Swatsicle was deflected, ignored, or outright countermanded with little reason provided. If bogie wishes to dispute this, he can bring up screenshots himself. To bogie’s credit, he was actually amenable to our position at the start. But once he’d had a chance to confer with ItsZahid, bogie’s position quickly solidified against us.
Swatsicle was unable to ever convince bogie that we were not scammers. That is when I contacted bogie to ask what would happen if FLUX did not pay Relentless their extorted money. That is the screencap above. I made the case for FLUX not being scammed, and I got further that Swatsicle did. The reason I got further seriously troubles me. Whereas Swatsicle was unable to properly converse with bogie, I was able to do so only after promising to make a political mess if bogie did not listen to me. That should not have worked.
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Any staffer with integrity should have rejected such an advance. But as became increasingly clear in both my and Swats’ conversations with bogie, he cared far more than is justified about Relentless’ interests, and about what they might do to him if they didn’t get “their” money. Maybe they blackmailed him, maybe they know him irl. I suspect, however, that Relentless would simply make a GD thread about how bogie hates them in an attempt to make life much more difficult for him. For this reason alone, I believe, bogie actively supports Relentless.
We continued for several screenshots’ worth of conversation, until I proved my case. Both FLUX and Relentless agreed that their relationship was that of extortion, and bogie himself agreed this. Given that extortion is not a trade, not an exchange of any sort, but instead the exaction of money or property under threat of violence, then the victim of extortion cannot have profited from the relationship. If the victim cannot have profited, then their non-compliance cannot– by definition – be a scam. Of course, there is very little way out of that argument other than to outright state that bogie will be enforcing staff corruption against us. As I had made my threat, bogie knew he couldn’t continue to put pressure on me while I was able to screenshot him doing so. And thus the conversation abruptly ended.
[image: i.imgur.com]
[image: i.imgur.com]
After many hours’ deliberation on bogie’s part, he flatly rejected the argument, claiming to not understand its relevance. He demanded FLUX pay up, I referred him to a host of middle-ground options that both I and Swats had presented him. We were prepared to lose out significantly, just so long as bogie did not illegitimately benefit Relentless. It seems, however, that aiding Relentless was all he cared for.
[image: i.imgur.com]
[image: i.imgur.com]
[image: i.imgur.com]
bogie is actively working to help Relentless, both he and they are corrupt and corrupting the game. This is not simply a one-off. This is undoubtedly routine. First-timers are tentative and cautious when attempting to get then-unfamiliar staff to corruptly help them. Relentless took a blatantly non-scam case, called it a scam, then told bogie to force FLUX to pay up. This is not gameplay, this is routine corruption.
This is going to be a long one, so here’s the tl;dr first:
>Relentless extorted FLUX
>FLUX refused to pay
>bogie forced FLUX to pay under implied threat of fedding
[image: i.imgur.com]
Last month, Relentless decided to extort FLUX for its Casino racket, worth $25m per day. Understanding that if we refused, we would be S7’d, we initially complied. We arranged to have payments made to Relentless every Sunday, and that first Sunday was paid. We did not like this. It felt scummy, giving our cash to a bunch of far wealthier players who had not earned it. Unlike most of their extortions, they had demanded 100% of our racket’s wealth.
The next Sunday rolled around, and we decided to let Relentless come and take the money for themselves: we were not going to pay. Money was not sent, and Relentless failed to stick to their threat. The next Sunday came, and ItsZahid proceeded to begin berating us for not paying up. ItsZahid then noticed that our leader, Swatsicle, was a committee member, and proceeded to accuse us of scamming him by not surrendering to the extortion attempt.
This was obviously nonsense. We could hardly believe that anyone would think that FLUX refusing to be extorted by Relentless could be considered us scamming them. As my friend Waifu put it, “this is beyond r*tarded, like actual knuckle dragging levels of r*tardation”. Shortly, however, Swatsicle was contacted by bogie, who had mysteriously thought that Relentless had a case here. Debate was had, but every argument put forward by Swatsicle was deflected, ignored, or outright countermanded with little reason provided. If bogie wishes to dispute this, he can bring up screenshots himself. To bogie’s credit, he was actually amenable to our position at the start. But once he’d had a chance to confer with ItsZahid, bogie’s position quickly solidified against us.
Swatsicle was unable to ever convince bogie that we were not scammers. That is when I contacted bogie to ask what would happen if FLUX did not pay Relentless their extorted money. That is the screencap above. I made the case for FLUX not being scammed, and I got further that Swatsicle did. The reason I got further seriously troubles me. Whereas Swatsicle was unable to properly converse with bogie, I was able to do so only after promising to make a political mess if bogie did not listen to me. That should not have worked.
[image: i.imgur.com]
Any staffer with integrity should have rejected such an advance. But as became increasingly clear in both my and Swats’ conversations with bogie, he cared far more than is justified about Relentless’ interests, and about what they might do to him if they didn’t get “their” money. Maybe they blackmailed him, maybe they know him irl. I suspect, however, that Relentless would simply make a GD thread about how bogie hates them in an attempt to make life much more difficult for him. For this reason alone, I believe, bogie actively supports Relentless.
We continued for several screenshots’ worth of conversation, until I proved my case. Both FLUX and Relentless agreed that their relationship was that of extortion, and bogie himself agreed this. Given that extortion is not a trade, not an exchange of any sort, but instead the exaction of money or property under threat of violence, then the victim of extortion cannot have profited from the relationship. If the victim cannot have profited, then their non-compliance cannot– by definition – be a scam. Of course, there is very little way out of that argument other than to outright state that bogie will be enforcing staff corruption against us. As I had made my threat, bogie knew he couldn’t continue to put pressure on me while I was able to screenshot him doing so. And thus the conversation abruptly ended.
[image: i.imgur.com]
[image: i.imgur.com]
After many hours’ deliberation on bogie’s part, he flatly rejected the argument, claiming to not understand its relevance. He demanded FLUX pay up, I referred him to a host of middle-ground options that both I and Swats had presented him. We were prepared to lose out significantly, just so long as bogie did not illegitimately benefit Relentless. It seems, however, that aiding Relentless was all he cared for.
[image: i.imgur.com]
[image: i.imgur.com]
[image: i.imgur.com]
bogie is actively working to help Relentless, both he and they are corrupt and corrupting the game. This is not simply a one-off. This is undoubtedly routine. First-timers are tentative and cautious when attempting to get then-unfamiliar staff to corruptly help them. Relentless took a blatantly non-scam case, called it a scam, then told bogie to force FLUX to pay up. This is not gameplay, this is routine corruption.
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