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bounties make the game less enjoyable · · 222 likes

That's kind of the point, to make the game less enjoyable to you. For the most part, the community here is pretty accommodating of new and weaker players, but every once in a while you get people who do this:

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Which, inevitably, leads to this:

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Which, interestingly, leads to this:

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So if you want to avoid that, maybe you should stop doing this:

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Request for honesty from the staff on updates · · 105 likes

I play the game because I enjoy it as what it is, not as what it could be. Same motivation behind donating.

Will I get bored if these updates don't come soon enough? Maybe. Torn is pretty much the same game as it was when I started nearly 3 years ago.

When I stop playing is more likely going to be a matter of whether I'm bored with the game or not. None of these new promised updates are going to really have any impact on that.

Maybe you're the one putting too much hype on these updates and should reign in your expectations? Or maybe you are just bored with the game? At that point, no amount of updates are going to get you back into it?

Crimes 2.0 comes out. Cool, new update that I get to play with.

Crimes 2.0 never comes out? Cool, Torn is still the same game that I enjoy playing.

Please explain. · · 36 likes

Tens of thousands....

Bounty Services and Displacement of Accountability · · 94 likes

Edit: TL:DR is apparently needed because it seems a lot of people are reading this as a complaint about the bounties rather than a question on the culpability of players who work for bounty-placing services, so here it is:

Random player: *places $3m worth of bounties on me to make $500k*
Me: *You've arrested player for $X"
Random player:
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Me:
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/TL:DR


I've recently been the target of a flurry of bounties, thanks to "Larrystooge's bounty depot", which to his credit, even being on the receiving end seems to be run very efficiently, and for anyone looking to place a shit ton of bounties, I couldn't recommend it any higher. He delivers, not doubt about it, and this is not meant to be a negative hit at him.

But after having nearly 200 bounties placed on me, at least 80% of those bounties were not done anonymously. so I decided to add those names to my enemy list, and all but one or two were people that I am able to defeat, so I started to attack them, and as expected, some of them messaged be to tell me that they know I'm attacking them in retaliation for those bounties, and I explained why I was attacking them, but I've got two types of responses:

The first:

REDACTED: Hello. I am assuming this is in retaliation of the bounties. I was asked by bounty depot to place them. I have no clue who you made mad to put that amount of bounties on you.
Patient: and you accepted, despite not knowing the circumstances
REDACTED: Yes. I was just letting you know where they came from is all.
Patient: I already know where they came from, but you helped them come :p
REDACTED: Fair enough

This person understood that he took a hostile action against me, and that is the reason for me attacking him, and he accepts that he may receive retaliation in kind. Sure, someone else paid someone else to pay him to take that action, but ultimately he's one that decided it was worth it and placed the bounties. He owned it, and I have the utmost respect for him, for whatever that's worth.

But on the other side of the coin, some of Larry's stooges have tried to absolve themselves of responsibility for placing the bounties, just because it wasn't them placing the bounties, they were just placing bounties for Larry that someone else paid Larry to place:

Complicated: I don't recall anon you
Patient: You don't recall anon me?
Patient: sorry I don't understand
Complicated: I don't recall anonymously bountied you
Patient: ohh no I mean if you don't want to get it back then use the anon bounties
Complicated: I mean, it's pretty obvious you're targeted by someone
Patient: Yea but the fact is you decided it was worth the money to put the bounties on me to assist them
Complicated: Just puzzled me that, a person of your caliber would like vent on others instead of finding the culprit
Complicated: I don't know who it is
Complicated: Like I said, someone paid larrystooge
Complicated: and larrystooge paid us for the slots
Patient: Is placing a bounty on someone not a hostile act?
Complicated: I mean, if you want to take that personally, go ahead
Complicated: Didn't expect to find a child with over 1100 days old
Complicated: Do what you please, I only intended to point you a direction
Patient: No, you intended to make money by taking a hostile action against me
Patient: own it
Complicated: Lol, you aren't the President of the United States
Complicated: Knock it off lmao
Patient: I'm not
Patient: but it wasn't larry that didn't spring for the anonymous fee :p
Complicated: Let's be real, you'll get a reveal regardless :^)
Patient: I wouldn't to be honest
Patient: But you put 10 bounties on me, and at a value that's pretty much guaranteed to be claimed
Complicated: Again, the whole point of this conversation isn't about telling you to stop me
Complicated: I'm just telling you where to find your answers
Patient: No I know where the bounties came from
Complicated: This is the 3rd time I've repeated this, do whatever you like to me, but if you want answers talk to larry
Patient: but you're helping them in their attack against me
Patient: I don't need answers
Complicated: I don't know why you kept circling to a point that wasn't made
Patient: Well, you put bounties on me, so eh deal with that
Patient: Let's end this circling :p
Patient: You came to me dude
Patient: the only one circling is you
Patient: Maybe next time think about who you're putting bounties on or spring for the anon fee
Patient: just my advice
Complicated: Seems like you still don't really get it with that thick skull of yours, but that's okay
Complicated: Stay healthy

This stooge seems to think that just because he didn't know where the money was coming from that he's not actively responsible for the attacks that come at me because of his bounties, but ultimately he decided that the money he would receive was worth the risk that someone would retaliate in response? Did he really think that just because he was told to place the bounties that he wouldn't have to deal with the fallout of placing them?

The way I see it, placing 10 bounties on me, especially ones with a high enough value that they're virtually guaranteed to be claimed, is equivalent to them hosping me repeatedly themself, and regardless of the reason, if someone is willing to do that to me, I would retaliate in kind if I'm able.

This isn't meant to disparage Larry's service, which I admit is incredibly effective, but to find out whether people think retaliating against the (mostly) younger players who enable these types of services should be absolved of responsibility just because they were only following orders.

Buying Dirty Bombs, Hazmats and Cesium · · 9 likes

Fast trade, didn't even need to be online, and came with free mug protection.

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Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible · · 1 like

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Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible · · 2 likes

Oh no, I didn't waste my time refuting his full of shit gish-galloping.

 

You clearly haven't bothered looking into any of this claims, because if you did, you'd already know he was full of shit. I invite anyone and everyone to try and verify his claims like I did, and then you could get back to me with the snark.

 

But I'm not going to do a jihadist's homework for them and waste my time typing up an essay to argue with someone who is just going to shout NUH UH! and especially so when they clearly know they're full of shit.

 

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Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible ·

Blah blah blah.


Happy pride month.

 

 

Just stop trying to kill all of the Jews.

Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible · · 3 likes

Oh, you say they lived with Jews and Christians peacefull for centuries? Please, regale us with the statistics of how many Jews live in Palestine, and then tell us how many Muslims live in Israel. Tell us how many Jews are in Egypt, Jordan, Iran, Iraq, etc.

 

I could count the number of Jews in Iraq on one hand. If I was counting them in Lybia, Syria, or Yemen, I'd be making a fist. Why? Because they kill them or kick them all out.

 

I'm not mocking shit. If you don't want a country to bomb you, then maybe don't do what those jihadists did on October 7th. And you don't really get to cry "why don't they all just live together?!?!" when we both know that those jihadists will do anything and everything they can to stop that from happening.

 

If anyone is a dumb piece of shit, it's you, and I have no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you're not a jihadist piece of shit.

Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible · · 3 likes

Just stop trying to kill all of the Jews. Why is that so difficult for you to agree with?


I don't care about jihadists or zionists, both of them can suck a nut for all I care, but if you're going to come here begging for sympathy for jihadists, maybe stop trying to pull the same shit Hitler did.

Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible · · 10 likes

Maybe just stop trying to kill all of the jews, and then maybe I'll start feeling bad when Israel bombs the hospitals and schools them jihadists use as military bases.


Until then, Palestine voted for the leopards eating your face party and then immediately afterwards started crying about leopards eating their faces.

 

WOMP WOMP!

Why the 'Two-State Solution' Is Impossible · · 11 likes

Yup, as long as them jihadists are there, there will never be peace.

Trump pardoned man 1 month after mother spent $1m ·

That's a lot of words for you to say "I don't know, Patient, you're right."

Trump pardoned man 1 month after mother spent $1m ·

You're kind of telling everyone how ignorant of both politics and law you are here, and how egocentric you are to think that any individual opinion of someone not in a position to effect them has any importance.

 

While the CSA creates the drug scheduling system, it's up to the executive branch to determine exactly what drugs are on that schedule. If a president wanted to remove certain drugs from that scheduling, I'd fully expect them to pardon those charged with offenses related to that drug. Whether or not I'd "be all for it" is irrelevant.

 

My argument (which was really just an observation, wasn't inviting any argument, but you're welcome for me entertaining your argument), was that a president who has openly stated his disdain for the IRS is pardoning people for offenses related to the IRS. You claim it only gets applied to the wealthy, but... you do know that typically that when someone wants a pardon, they have to apply for one? And that the overwhelming majority of pardons are done without the media fanfare that these high-profile cases that get your panties in a wad get?

 

The only reason you believe it only applies to the wealthy is because the only extent of thought you've given it is what the media outlets that share your hatred of Trump have told you about.

 

Dems Are SATANISTS And Thats Why I Cant See My Kid · · 1 like

Wow, you're really projecting there, windy.

 

Don't worry, I'm sure your daddy still loves you, even if you're mad at him for not clapping enthusiastically enough for your lifestyle choices.

Dems Are SATANISTS And Thats Why I Cant See My Kid · · 1 like

One things this interpretation misses:

 

You would mean a random person somewhere in the world, basically categories 7-9 depending on where you and the liberal live.

 

The more interesting takeaway I think is that they care more about inanimate matter than they do their own families and friends. Given how easily they disown those closest to them who don't align with their cultish and dogmatic views, it's not surprising at all except for the extent of just how relatively little they care about them.

 

But if I had to guess, it would be that the results of this are more an affect of them wanting to appear as empathetic as possible to as many people as possible, when really, we all know liberals have have very little capacity for genuine empathy in the first place, rather basing the the target of their faux empathy on whether it aligns with their greater interest of maintaining or elevating their status among their hivemind.

Trump pardoned man 1 month after mother spent $1m ·

Wow, a president who said he wants to dismantle the IRS and eliminate income taxes pardoning people who are in trouble with the IRS because of income tax.....

 

Shocking.

Elon Musk killed up to 27 people ·

Sure, take all the time you need to connect those dots.


I'll wait.

The Karen Read trial ·

So chocolate labs must live in agony then, hm?

 

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

 

I haven't been following this trial, and your presentation of it is so one-sided, and without actually knowing the commentary you're referring to, I can't help but be skeptical of your framing of it.

 

All I can really say based on what you've said here is that it sounds like Read's lawyers are doing a good job in convincing the jury to side with her, but whether or not I would side with her is still up in the air as I haven't really looked into it.

Trump's stopping Harvard from admitting foreigners · · 1 like

No, it's not a good test.

 

Revoking the privilege of sponsoring visas because they're not doing enough to tackle antisemitism when they're otherwise in compliance with federal regulations, I don't agree with.

 

Revoking the privilege of sponsoring visas because they're not doing enough to tackle antisemitism when they're not in compliance with federal regulations, I'm fine with.

 

If you're incapable of making that distinction, then I don't think you're going to find any productive discussion here.

Why do conservatives want to destroy America? · · 1 like

Hm, not giving Ivy League schools billions of dollars for administrative expenses? Sign me up.

 

Oh, deporting people who come here illegally? Rock the f**k on!

 

Ah, not trying to damage children's lives because they don't like playing with the toys you expected them to like? Sounds good.

 

Whoa, never thought I'd see an argument in favor of baby murder, but I'm glad we're trying to stop murdering babies.

 

That's off the top of my head, but I'm sure you'll be copy/pasting more crap from whatever social media or mainstream news outlet you outsource your thought to.

Israel escalated Genociding Gaza · · 1 like

Hm, I wonder if they ever just tried.... you know.... stop trying to kill all of the jews?

 

I thought we got all of that out of our system with the whole WW2 thing.

South Africa · · 5 likes

Maybe someone who doesn't want to kill all the farmers?

Texas is criminalizing weed · · 1 like

They're not criminalizing weed, they're criminalizing all of the synthetic alternatives or analogues or derivatives of weed that came about through the loopholes in the 2018 farm bill that let people sell variations of THC and CBD.

 

Weed hasn't been legal in Texas since 1931.

 

Whether or not they should is a different question, but no, they aren't criminalizing weed.

Why do conservatives want to destroy America? ·

Wow, a non-American telling Americans what Americans want.

 

Still salty about that whole revolutionary war thing?