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Edit: Seems like we both had the same idea, Crylix :/

Hi Musogirl and employees of the LOLCats TV,


First time I saw your request I immediately knew it, that it was something I would like to use my time and graphical design skill for. Besides the reward, the request seemed like something I would really like to try.
So far, no one seemed to have succeeded at creating the logo & advertisement too well, and all entries were either ugly or too complex to be used as logos.

The company logo is "LOLCats TV" written with bold Aero Matics -font and colored with fallow or any shade close to it:

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Broadcasting icon and the higher contrast level are not necessary but generally used when the logo is shown alone, without any other texts or graphical illustrations close to it. Unlike many of the "logos" here it's simple and easy to remember. If you ever need to use it in the future for anything I will provide you the vectorized versions too.

Then there's the animated LOLCats TV -advertisement:

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It is in the right size and can be easily used anytime. I also optimized it for you after first rendering it in 4K. The small black boxes are there to reduce the file size. If they're a big problem they can be removed but my personal opinion is that they actually look good.

I'm happy to answer all kind of question you may have and do some small changes if there's anything you would like to be different.




Good luck with running the new company,

SodaDrinker

Broadcast.

2023-09-16 // PUBLIC // OBSERVATIONS ON RE

The game of Elimination is a brutal and strategic affair. Whilst we respect their unwavering faith and commitment to their principles, the divine will seems to be that RE will not achieve TC Elimination victory in 2023 despite their success in the 0000s and 1400s. I report latest non-classified analysis by the Hivemind to "englight" the public and future readers how the current / historical situation was.

1. The Religious Extremists confess their strategies in confessional booths, second guessing every move because they think it might be a sin.

2. RE often ends up in an eternal debate of "does shooting my enemy with armalite cause them to feel pain" and "is it morally acceptable to hospitalize?" while Hivemind does not.

3. RE has no pep talks, every 30 mins starts with sermon speech about "end times" (which they will face soon).

4. The Extremists' interdenominational squabbles mean they have no team chemistry because Baptist and Buddhist players can't agree over theological differences.


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5. RE leadership spends more searching for divine signs and hidden lessons than on tactics.

6. They insist on forcing conversion to their particular sects before attacking, getting hospitalized before first hit.

7. Even in the hospital, they are always working on converting their enemies. Unfortunately, we are stacking energy instead to incvitize them.

8. The Extremists take a 'leap of faith' with their gameplay strategies, which often lead them into traps laid by more calculative teams like Hivemind.

Citiziens informed. End of Broadcast.

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Alert. Accidental mis-beliefs will result permanent offworld relocation. Code: Plastic sword, Life, Channel

SodaDrinker's Patch to DT:

1. A hard-to-save and continuously-updating log (the Dog Log, DL) of the latest "steals" in the current city is shown as a read-only chat. Both failures and successes are shown. An algorithm similar but completely independent of normal stealth system is be devised to decide the probability at which DL reports a player's name vs. "someone" as the subject. Example gratia "SodaDrinker stole (number?) from Chedburn", "Someone stole from Chedburn" where in both cases Ched could, as normally, have seen my name.
2. Any player's DT information can be revealed at 75E by anyone. If the player can spy stats, the cost is reduced to 25E. Staff and hobby statistician should optimize these numbers for everyone's fun.
3. Any player can view the past and current owner's of their tag at the competition page.
4. All other unilateral methods of revealing other Torn citizens' DT information are effectively abolished.
5. Reward system is modified to moderately increase the utility gain from participation.

This is the way.

 

 

I will sacrifice my life to you. You matter. Life is good. I mean well.

This happens with most things under pressure to "grow." I stopped being a subscriber because they are not listening to players enough. Imagine spending decade of your life playing Torn, only to see new updates ruining the experience.

So much human time wasted for a non-competitive competition.

I expected Torn devs / mods to make sure the leaders of the time are going to be opposed.

Hivemind lost because Champion cheated on all of you: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=2&t=16354307&b=0&a=0

Cheese + Chad = Ched

Elimination is not rigged.

...

Elimination is not rigged.

...

Official strategy:

Basilissa:RE has most lives and tickets. They want to save energy.
Basilissa: so that way they can 1 vs 1 either one and win with full stack vs no stack
Basilissa: But every hit we make vs cheese, every e we burn from them
Basilissa: that makes cheese weaker and more likely to lose vs RE
Basilissa: So now they are scared of RE...
Basilissa: And they will look at us as more and more of an ally.
Basilissa: As long as they believe they can 1 vs 1 RE and win, they will not ally us
Basilissa: but if they believe they can no longer win...
Basilissa: that's when they go
Basilissa: "OH SHIT"
Basilissa: Let's stop hitting hive and focus RE
Basilissa: And that moment, is how we win

...

RE at 4K+ tickets, 41 lives
HM at 1K+ tickets, 11 lives

This is still how we win?

A person says what he wants. Others don't want that everyone can say anything. Now he has been made to regret!

Horrible.

Lots. Acid.

Broadcast.

2023-09-16 // PUBLIC // OBSERVATIONS ON RE

The game of Elimination is a brutal and strategic affair. Whilst we respect their unwavering faith and commitment to their principles, the divine will seems to be that RE will not achieve TC Elimination victory in 2023 despite their success in the 0000s and 1400s. I report latest non-classified analysis by the Hivemind to "englight" the public and future readers how the current / historical situation was.

1. The Religious Extremists confess their strategies in confessional booths, second guessing every move because they think it might be a sin.

2. RE often ends up in an eternal debate of "does shooting my enemy with armalite cause them to feel pain" and "is it morally acceptable to hospitalize?" while Hivemind does not.

3. RE has no pep talks, every 30 mins starts with sermon speech about "end times" (which they will face soon).

4. The Extremists' interdenominational squabbles mean they have no team chemistry because Baptist and Buddhist players can't agree over theological differences.


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5. RE leadership spends more searching for divine signs and hidden lessons than on tactics.

6. They insist on forcing conversion to their particular sects before attacking, getting hospitalized before first hit.

7. Even in the hospital, they are always working on converting their enemies. Unfortunately, we are stacking energy instead to incvitize them.

8. The Extremists take a 'leap of faith' with their gameplay strategies, which often lead them into traps laid by more calculative teams like Hivemind.

Citiziens informed. End of Broadcast.

---

Alert. Accidental mis-beliefs will result permanent offworld relocation. Code: Plastic sword, Life, Channel

Shame that they died. Now she will never read this.

Someone make a plugin to show all real car names and old graphics. Or one that makes Torn 100% text-based.

Exactly. It's inconsistent with every other part of the game, where if it's not icons it's something photorealistic. And it's inconsistent internally, in detail, color etc.

In my previous comment I made the same point... this look cheapish. For example those new halloween pumpkins

The decision to transition to 3D models might be good long-term if the devs got plans to use them outside the inventory.

But otherwise only handful of the new models capture the gritty "feel" of Torn. Most fall short, lacking ton of detail, realism, and color accuracy. The fresh morphine depiction is an exception.

Since the game primarily uses text and icons, and characters / missions are designed to be photo-realistic, the introduction of models that look like they were made 30 years ago impacts Torn's atmosphere negatively. It disrupts the narrative coherence; forcing an overly glossy and overly polished look, that cheapens game.

Given the developer's budget, the option to 3D scan real objects could have worked. This would have maintained the raw realism that defines Torn, while benefiting from the versatility of 3D modeling (= models can be used outside inventory).

If the devs don't intend to ever use the mdoels outside the inventory, then phography would *also* have been superior choice to these shitty models.

I'm relatively rich in Torn and willing to buy all types of art from all humans.

Contact me with your stuff and name a price.

I hope Torn devs have a plan for the scenario where a social justice issue goes out of control outside our forums and everyone begins to demand an absurd, nonsense change to Torn with else the "or else" being something excessively sanctious.

I want leave a note that my opinion was that to keep Torn alive, the humanhood verification mechanicsms would have to be / have had to be improved now (2023-04).


Captchas do not protect against future AutoGPT-like systems or multimodal agents. If AI programs ruin Torn economy, the game is ruined for good. The only way to be sure that the game stays alive for as long we do is to take pre-emptive action.

I believe a hybrid approach would be the best because too rigorous verification mechanicsms may lead to decrease in active players. What I mean by a hybrid approach is a system where a player can optionally verify themselves with their government IDs but don't have to. If it seems like AI has become a problem, the administration would have the option to trigger a purge that sanitizes the system from non-verified players / their wealth. The players not yet verified would be given a certain amount of time to verify (the optimal amount can be deduced from existing data via means I don't specify now; but I would heuristically choose betwen 1 and 1.5 years).

while the supply of herbal suppu was replaced by Neumune

2022-10-11 metalog: The system described in the post may be useful in discussion about DT systems.

See my thread.