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Let's spread hate on another side now. How does it feels?

This has nothing to do with people as individuals. This is just a contra topic, spreading hate against the US govt and banala, and stupid generalization as someone else did in another topic. This is for them to see how it is being called a terrorist or a bad person just because they belong to a certain group. I know this is so childish. But if nice way doesn't work...

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Why is it so hard for you people to be okay and respect the others, and someone else's opinion? Why do you always look for the fault in others, and don't see it within yourself? Do you seriously think you are all so perfect? Nobody is perfect, neither am I. Just stop arguing, and accept sometimes the opposite point of view, doesn't mean agree with them, just accept it that not everybody sees the same thing as you do. You might see a blue mug, someone else might see the same mug as black. The paper is neither black, or white, it is grey. 

I could say that USA treats its people poorly, sends people to the 'war' to kill inocent people, for the oil. There was a documentary, where a man asked politcians wether theyd send their kids to the war. Guess what they said? NO! They robbed off all countries they went ti bring 'democracy'. Bombing of Serbia? Mission called 'Merciful Angel'? Using bombs that are forbidden? Shall I hate now all Americans for their govt bombing mine country? No, of course not. Just because the govt decided something doesn't mean people wanted it too.
Does it really matters who is what religion, what he belives, who he whates for, what skin color is he? It is all pointless. You all seem brainwashed. 

This has nothing to do with people as individuals. This is just a contra topic, spreading hate against the US govt and banala, and stupid generalization as someone else did in another topic. This is for them to see how it is being called a terrorist or a bad person just because they belong to a certain group. I know this is so childish. But if nice way doesn't work...

Maybe cus you never have seen a war, as some of us did. Maybe cus you weren't near dying. My opinion is that people should be treated with respect, not mocking them what you do. You don't need empathy for that. You constantly talk to me as I am the one believing in God, and I never said what do I believe in. Just because I am here arguing to equallity, doesn't mean I am a believer. I am just open to all possibilities. There might be God, there might not be God. Can't say yes, or no. I don't know. There might be some bigger force which we can't understand and we call it 'God'. Before the 'modern' law people needed some rules, cus they weren't modern, f**k it. They didn't had a travel machine.

Let's spread hate on another side now. How does it feels?

I give up it is pointless explaining anything to you, because you are ignorant. You're so poor, your soul is poor. But...oh, well you believe in nothing...so, you don't have a soul. You don't have a sense what is right what is wrong...what is potentually very bad...you migh end up as a murder or whatever...who cares about people dying, right? Well, see...one thing is when someone dies naturally, and another is when someone is killed by the bombs! I am not a religious person, I just put an effort to study and understand, also not to be ignorant as you. That is why I defend Islam, and Muslims here. Churches have load of pedo bears(somehow sounds cuter). No Muslim whos a true believer and following a religion won't do harm to you. There is only good people, and bad. And you my friend, I am afraid of you.

You didn't give a concrete answer to my reply. I asked how can you prove by science there is no God, or there is a God? Second, how can you generalize? Third, isn't law writen by humans too? And we follow it and respect? Because there will be consuquences?

It is not about whose God is true, it is about those people's belief. Who're you to judge anyone? Are people who believe there are aliens, crazy, and for a mental institution? What is with spirituality? Are they crazy too? Why are religious people less humans, than you are? You obviously have a God complex. Maybe someone needs some kind of rules or whatever to get through some stuff in their lives...you don't know what those people are feeling and thinking. Not everyone who practice religion, believes there's God. Not everyone who believes there's God, practice religion. You know there are agnostics, too. You all speak what Muslims do...generalizing it, again. It is not a religion that does harm the others it is the people. What does the USA do around the world? How many i*****nnt people they killed over the years in the name of 'democracy' to exploit rich countries with oil, and drug trafficking? And then you are full of sh... how it is the Muslim's fault. Shut the f**k up, and use brain for once.

Oh, so if I find you stupid, and ridiculous and absurd, I should say so just because I feel like it? How is that even logical?It is absolutely alright to disagree with something or someone, but not okay to be rude. So, religious people believe there's God, its their belief, and yours is there's no God, and it's rubish to follow any religion, but you as a man of a science(I am guessing this) because you said modern world, can you prove there is no God, by science? Neither of those groups can prove anything, they just both believe, and hold the ground. But, for you maybe those people are from middle age, yet they have manners, while you don't. Even non-religious people know when they should say something, or not. It is bad for you to speak without thinking, acting just on a feeling. You are being impulsive.

Why you guys argue over something that's actually individual thing? It varies from a person to person. Some believe, some don't, some are open to all possibilities, some follow a religion, some don't. It's pointless to force someone to change his point of view ifhe has a strong belief in his opinion. No need to argue, as long as no one offending anyone, it isokay to discuss, but this has crossed a line. Especially cus Crylix, no offens akhi, you are trying to teach Islam someone in 5mins. You can'tshow someone any religion by being hard on them. He hates Islamic govt, yes, I hate it too. But KSA's govt has nothing to do with Islam actually, he can't separete that. For him it is equal. People should learn differences between politics and religion.

Naaa...it wasn't a hateful comment, I understood his comment, while the other guy didn't. I think he explained how does the fasting works. But, I think he left out some parts, it is not just they don't eat and drink from the morning till the evening. Another thing is they read a whole Quran during the Ramadan, pray Tarawih, doing good deeds, saving theirselves from doing bad things, like cursing, watching haram.

Ah...they don't know it's forbiden killing people, except in some cases which are clearly stated. Plus, they think reading Quran itself is enough, because they probably never heard of hadith's, and Sunnah. What KSA is doing has nothing to do with Islam, and we all know what are they doing in Yemen. Just because KSA is an 'Islamic' state, doesn't mean it follows Islam in all ascepts. They just took parts they like.

Thanks! Ramadan Kareem! :)

You want me to teach you Islam in 5min? :)

Mohammed s.a.w.s has been sent as the last messenger due to people not following teachings of messengers before him. In Islam, there's one God, and you worship only one God, it's forbidden to have idols, saints, statues to worship. Christians have statues and saints, they pray to those saints. So, Allah s.w.t sent a Mohammed s.a.w.s to warn those people of forbidden stuff. That's why it says in Quran that today their religion is perfected. 

Yes, that's why according to Islam, Allah s.w.t sent Mohammed s.a.w.s as the last messenger.

Well, Islam recognizes all the books that came before the Quran. Except, as mentioned earlier Isa a.s(Jesus) is percieved as a messenger and not a Son of God. Quran was a last book that came to the people, so Jews, and Christians refuses to believe it. With Quran, and Islam, it has been perfected. Islam is quite simple religion to follow, yet such a complex thing to study. I could tell a lot on this topic. But, I'm afraid I'd be seen as a vahabi, or something....even though I'm not a Muslim, just someone who did put a lot of an effort to study it.

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Thanks a lot for a trade! :)