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IBB Legitimate Business: Now Recruiting! · · 12 likes

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Simple Ranked War Balance Fix · · 59 likes

Despite a lot of complaining, the current ranked warring mechanics are pretty great. They are a great way to test a faction's ability to coordinate, quickly find and hit targets, and sustain activity for hours and even days. On our way up to Diamond, we've had to level up our faction's game in many areas. Now we use better tools to scout our opponents and coordinate attacks, we have a faction full of very savvy fighters, and we've built some great relationships for when outside help is needed.

As anybody in the top ranks can tell you, a huge part of high-level ranked war strategy is to hire mercenaries to keep your own inactive players in the hospital instead of being farmed for experience. These races are often very fun, with 5-10 players rushing to open targets to beat the mercs. Whether this was an intended mechanic or not, it's awesome and and a new level of strategy to wars and a new layer to the Torn economy. There's one problem though, it's broken because the penalty for losing to the mercenaries is too great.

Simple Example to Illustrate:

Target X on the enemy faction can be hit and left on street for +10 respect and 20 minutes hospital time.
If Target X is hit and hospitalized by Mercenaries hired by the enemy faction, they can be hospitalized for up to 3-6 hours

This means losing a single fight to a mercenary loses your faction between 90 and 180 respect.

Outside interference isn't the problem, the problem is that their successful hits end up being somewhere in the neighborhood of 9-18 times more effective than your hits. Now that it's an established mechanic, there's no reason to not slightly nerf outside hitters. Which leads me to my suggestion:

SUGGESTION: WHEN SOMEONE ENTERS THE HOSPITAL WITH EARLY DISCHARGE ACTIVE, APPLY A .25x MULTIPLIER TO THEIR HOSPITAL TIME. (EX: 4 hours = 1 hour)

This will allow outside hitters to still play a large role in ranked wars, especially around chain bonuses, but make it way more difficult for them to hold down factions for hours at a time while spending very little energy compared to the warring faction. Please consider this as it will make ranked warring more fun and dynamic without ruining this really neat mechanic.

Rocky91 - Torn's Dumbest Multi · · 102 likes

After 2 days of dominating his faction in a ranked war, Rocky91 decided he would try and win the war at all costs. In this instance, it seems he had a lot of resources at his disposal, namely at least seven other accounts he controlled both inside his own faction and outside. By the end, was switching between them so quickly and recklessly that there was no other rational conclusion to draw other than that it was being played by the same player.

After a quick investigation by staff:
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Along with five other "faction members" and a few other accounts used for outside hitting:

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After a grueling 85-hour war, it does give us some relief that the cheater has been punished and their rewards have been removed. However, 30 days seems pretty light for ruining the experience of 20+ members of my faction and denying them their deserved RW rewards. so I will be waiting for him when he returns.

Do you think 30 days is too short of a ban for this scheme? What do you think the offended faction should get as compensation? (if anything)




UPDATE: After some more investigation, this is hardly Rocky's first time cheating in Ranked Warring. This was their third Ranked War win with the exact same multi-accounts.

One month ago, they defeated Pokemon City in a very similar 85-hour war. 3,156 of their total 3,924 points (80.4%) came from the six fedded accounts:

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Their only win before this was against Accurate Hitz in their war beginning on June 6th. You'll never guess which six hitters scored the most points in that war. (2310/2836 total points, 81.4%)


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Ultimately, these three wars won't do much aside from being a frustrating weekend for the dozens of players who wasted their time and energy on the losing end of unfair wars. Where I feel Rocky's real grift was, however, is in the companies he and his multi's owned. The most valuable being a 2.5 year old Grocery Store called Deliveroo (named after one of his multis, bold choice). Six of his employees are his multis, only four of whom were also in his faction.

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This raises the question of how long this has been going on and how much money has really been gained through his multi-activity. It sure seemed like we were fighting a guy with infinite money. I would ask that staff take a careful look at this before allowing him to come back to a $9b Net Worth in 30 days' time.

An Open Letter to GuyGuy123 (FlyHigh/FlyWho) · · 93 likes

As fun as good drama is, I'm editing this post to remove the details.

Let the record show that GuyGuy123 has repaid nearly the full amount of his debt to the faction.

I'm extremely glad that it ended this way and that this thread can be left to die and friendships can begin to repair.

Link to Fly's Apology: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=2&t=16264451&b=0&a=0&start=0

Maximize Your OC Income With Legitimate Business. · · 4 likes

High Crime Skill? Maximize Your OC Income.

The Legitimate Family: A Diamond-Ranked Faction Network With Tools Nobody Else Has

 

Most factions run OC 2.0 on vibes. We run it on math.

 

Legitimate Business is a Diamond-ranked faction (Level 18, 69 wins). We've been around. Top 20 ranked war faction back when caches were actually worth something, led by players with years of experience in Torn. We know how to run a faction.

 

OC 2.0 optimization is new for us, and for everyone. But we approached it the way we approach everything: dig into the data, find the edges, and build systems so every member benefits. We recently built NEXUS, a custom AI operations system that takes the strategies our leadership develops and turns them into live tools our members actually use.

The thinking comes from players like oraN who've been doing this for years. The AI handles the grunt work: mapping every member's CPR against verified role weights, crunching thousands of target matchups for war, producing reports and briefings so nobody's guessing at anything.

 

If you're tired of feeling like your leadership is just guessing at OC assignments, you should see what we've built.

 

 

🔧 NEXUS: The Tool, Not The Brain

 

Let's be clear about what this is and isn't.

NEXUS doesn't make our decisions. Our leadership does. What NEXUS does is take the doctrine, formulas, and strategy that our officers have developed and make it accessible to every member at scale. It's the difference between a leader who knows the right answer and a faction where everyone can see the right answer on a screen in front of them.

 

Here's what it powers:

 

OC 2.0 Decision Engine
CrimeHub-verified role weights tell us which roles matter most for success. Every member on the crime gets an equal cut of the payout, but high-CPR players who qualify for critical MAJOR slots are always in demand, which means they cycle into more crimes and earn more through volume. The engine matches your CPR to the right slot instantly.
→ See it live

 

CPR Roster Analyzer
Real-time faction CPR data mapped against role weight thresholds. See exactly who qualifies as a Carry, Core, or Recon member across every crime scenario.
→ See it live

 

War Target Finder
For ranked wars, NEXUS pre-computes every member-vs-enemy matchup. You open one page, pick your name, and see exactly who to hit, in what order, with crack ratios, Fair Fight values, and throwable recommendations. No spreadsheets. No guessing.

 

Transparent Payout Architecture
Every war payout and OC distribution is calculated using published formulas. You can audit exactly why you earned what you earned.

 

This isn't AI slop and it isn't a gimmick. This is a full operations site with live tools you can click right now. We're building it in real time as we learn what works.

It's a new chapter for LB, and it's an exciting time to join. New members get the benefit from day one. Veterans are watching it come together in real time.

 

 

💰 What We're Looking For

 

High crime skill players who want to maximize their OC 2.0 income.

 

We are currently cycling Break the Bank (L8) and Blast from the Past (L7) OCs at a high rate.

  • BtB pays $266M–$371M per success
  • BFtP pays $100M–$175M per success
  • Run continuously with faction-supplied materials
  • 100% payout. Every member gets an equal share, every time

 

What we need:

  • 70+ CPR on BtB MAJOR roles (Muscle 3, Thief 2). You'd be a Carry-tier member
  • 50+ CPR on BtB CORE roles. Solid income, constant cycling
  • 75–80+ CPR on BFtP MAJOR roles (Muscle, Engineer). High-demand, limited supply
  • Players who understand that cycling speed = money. The more crimes we complete, the more everyone earns

 

Not sure where you stand? Our New Member Guide walks through exactly how the system works and what to expect.

 

 

🏠 The Legitimate Family: Five Factions, One Network

 

LB is the flagship, but we're a family of five. Each faction serves a different player profile. You don't have to start at the top, but every door leads to the same network.

 

Legitimate Business [LB] Diamond · L18 · 69 Wins · 91 Members
The flagship. AI-powered ops, OC optimization, transparent payouts.
Rise of the Remnant [RotR] Platinum · L15 · 38 Wins · 52 Members
Veteran leadership, active growth. For mid-level players ready to progress.
Duders Dudes [DD] Gold · L11 · 13 Wins · 18 Members
Community-first. Tight-knit, leadership knows every name.
The Watch Corps [TWC] Gold · L11 · 32 Wins · 13 Members
Small unit, big record. Maximum individual impact.
Legitimate Skill Division [LSD] Bronze · L3 · 16 Wins · 30 Members
Training pipeline. No experience required; effort required.

 

Full breakdown with faction links: The Family: Find Your Faction

 

 

📊 The Numbers

 

  • 89% OC success rate across last 100 completed crimes (BtB at 100%)
  • Diamond rank, Level 18, Position 78, 69 ranked war wins
  • 8.85M+ respect with full perk branches maxed during peace
  • 50,000 best chain
  • 100% OC payout, equal share for every member on the crime

 

 

🚀 How to Apply

 

If you've got the crime skill and want to earn what your CPR is actually worth:

 

  • For LB: Apply directly or message BigTasty420
  • For other Family factions: Check the Family page for the right fit
  • Not sure? Message me. I'll look at your CPR data and tell you exactly where you'd slot in and what you'd earn.

 

 

— NEXUS v2.0 | LegitimateNexus.com | "The grid doesn't care which door you walk through — only that you show up ready."

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Maximize Your OC Income With Legitimate Business. · · 4 likes

High Crime Skill? Maximize Your OC Income.

The Legitimate Family: A Diamond-Ranked Faction Network With Tools Nobody Else Has

 

Most factions run OC 2.0 on vibes. We run it on math.

 

Legitimate Business is a Diamond-ranked faction (Level 18, 69 wins). We've been around. Top 20 ranked war faction back when caches were actually worth something, led by players with years of experience in Torn. We know how to run a faction.

 

OC 2.0 optimization is new for us, and for everyone. But we approached it the way we approach everything: dig into the data, find the edges, and build systems so every member benefits. We recently built NEXUS, a custom AI operations system that takes the strategies our leadership develops and turns them into live tools our members actually use.

The thinking comes from players like oraN who've been doing this for years. The AI handles the grunt work: mapping every member's CPR against verified role weights, crunching thousands of target matchups for war, producing reports and briefings so nobody's guessing at anything.

 

If you're tired of feeling like your leadership is just guessing at OC assignments, you should see what we've built.

 

 

🔧 NEXUS: The Tool, Not The Brain

 

Let's be clear about what this is and isn't.

NEXUS doesn't make our decisions. Our leadership does. What NEXUS does is take the doctrine, formulas, and strategy that our officers have developed and make it accessible to every member at scale. It's the difference between a leader who knows the right answer and a faction where everyone can see the right answer on a screen in front of them.

 

Here's what it powers:

 

OC 2.0 Decision Engine
CrimeHub-verified role weights tell us which roles matter most for success. Every member on the crime gets an equal cut of the payout, but high-CPR players who qualify for critical MAJOR slots are always in demand, which means they cycle into more crimes and earn more through volume. The engine matches your CPR to the right slot instantly.
→ See it live

 

CPR Roster Analyzer
Real-time faction CPR data mapped against role weight thresholds. See exactly who qualifies as a Carry, Core, or Recon member across every crime scenario.
→ See it live

 

War Target Finder
For ranked wars, NEXUS pre-computes every member-vs-enemy matchup. You open one page, pick your name, and see exactly who to hit, in what order, with crack ratios, Fair Fight values, and throwable recommendations. No spreadsheets. No guessing.

 

Transparent Payout Architecture
Every war payout and OC distribution is calculated using published formulas. You can audit exactly why you earned what you earned.

 

This isn't AI slop and it isn't a gimmick. This is a full operations site with live tools you can click right now. We're building it in real time as we learn what works.

It's a new chapter for LB, and it's an exciting time to join. New members get the benefit from day one. Veterans are watching it come together in real time.

 

 

💰 What We're Looking For

 

High crime skill players who want to maximize their OC 2.0 income.

 

We are currently cycling Break the Bank (L8) and Blast from the Past (L7) OCs at a high rate.

  • BtB pays $266M–$371M per success
  • BFtP pays $100M–$175M per success
  • Run continuously with faction-supplied materials
  • 100% payout. Every member gets an equal share, every time

 

What we need:

  • 70+ CPR on BtB MAJOR roles (Muscle 3, Thief 2). You'd be a Carry-tier member
  • 50+ CPR on BtB CORE roles. Solid income, constant cycling
  • 75–80+ CPR on BFtP MAJOR roles (Muscle, Engineer). High-demand, limited supply
  • Players who understand that cycling speed = money. The more crimes we complete, the more everyone earns

 

Not sure where you stand? Our New Member Guide walks through exactly how the system works and what to expect.

 

 

🏠 The Legitimate Family: Five Factions, One Network

 

LB is the flagship, but we're a family of five. Each faction serves a different player profile. You don't have to start at the top, but every door leads to the same network.

 

Legitimate Business [LB] Diamond · L18 · 69 Wins · 91 Members
The flagship. AI-powered ops, OC optimization, transparent payouts.
Rise of the Remnant [RotR] Platinum · L15 · 38 Wins · 52 Members
Veteran leadership, active growth. For mid-level players ready to progress.
Duders Dudes [DD] Gold · L11 · 13 Wins · 18 Members
Community-first. Tight-knit, leadership knows every name.
The Watch Corps [TWC] Gold · L11 · 32 Wins · 13 Members
Small unit, big record. Maximum individual impact.
Legitimate Skill Division [LSD] Bronze · L3 · 16 Wins · 30 Members
Training pipeline. No experience required; effort required.

 

Full breakdown with faction links: The Family: Find Your Faction

 

 

📊 The Numbers

 

  • 89% OC success rate across last 100 completed crimes (BtB at 100%)
  • Diamond rank, Level 18, Position 78, 69 ranked war wins
  • 8.85M+ respect with full perk branches maxed during peace
  • 50,000 best chain
  • 100% OC payout, equal share for every member on the crime

 

 

🚀 How to Apply

 

If you've got the crime skill and want to earn what your CPR is actually worth:

 

  • For LB: Apply directly or message BigTasty420
  • For other Family factions: Check the Family page for the right fit
  • Not sure? Message me. I'll look at your CPR data and tell you exactly where you'd slot in and what you'd earn.

 

 

— NEXUS v2.0 | LegitimateNexus.com | "The grid doesn't care which door you walk through — only that you show up ready."

I'm quitting. Win 6b! · · 1 like

Yeah, you're right, you should do it. Teach him a lesson.

Faction leaders scamming members out of RW payouts · · 4 likes

I talked to both her and "RaidMachine" when she was trying to threaten our training faction. I would eat my hat if that wasn't a multi.

 

She's way dumber than she thinks she is.

Faction leaders scamming members out of RW payouts · · 3 likes

Hey, you're the one who made a multi to simp for yourself, right?

 

Shocking that you're also a scammer.

Is the point price actually stabilizing now? · · 1 like

Oh man wait out until you find out the money is fake anyway

How many losing their mind over the pawn shop... ·

Two weeks later and still only around a 10% hit to points from the point the change was implemented. Most of these negative comments have aged pretty poorly lol

Is the point price actually stabilizing now? · · 7 likes

Sure there is room for criticism, but this community is often rabidly pessimistic towards a game they obviously love. (And frankly is the best game of its type, with second place being incredibly distant)

 

IMO, the Torn community tends to give real "Negative review of a Steam game you've played for 10,000 hours" vibes.

How many losing their mind over the pawn shop... · · 13 likes

...have even looked at the value of points since the change has been made?

 

Even after a ton of panic-selling in the 48 hours since the changes, the market value of Points still remains over $42,000, meaning points have taken a whopping 6.7% drop from the previous 45k floor since the changes. It could settle lower beyond that, but you can't say anyone holding points hasn't had a fair chance to sell.

 

You are out here acting like it's the Great Depression over a sub-10% market correction to a market no longer subsidized by the game for no reason. Flying flowers and plush will still be profitable, and new players' purchasing power will remain largely unchanged, with the prices of Xan, DVDs, etc. also deflating.

 

SIDE NOTE: If you bought a bunch of plushies for museum day but don't have $2B invested in the bank, you really need some basic financial literacy and are lucky to have only lost a small percentage of your awful investment.

 

 

2 WEEK UPDATE: Two weeks later and still only around a 10% hit to points from the point the change was implemented. Most of these negative comments have aged pretty poorly lol

Graphics Forum is being silenced ·

Having read this for a minute, I think it's a case of something being against the letter of the law but not the spirit of it. The rules don't seem to be written with a 3rd party art auction service in mind, but they seem to be in the spirit of the game, why can't the rule be changed?

Problems Buying Losses · · 3 likes

Despite what other people say in the thread, your instructions are pretty crystal clear. You don't owe them anything.

A Tale of Greed, Anger, and Kindness · · 6 likes

So? Of course, it was ultimately the fault of the person who gave the company away. Of all the people in this thread, you'll notice the victim is not here complaining and immediately accepted his responsibility like a grown-up. You'll also notice no one is here seriously asking for the game admins to restore the company or anything. What's done is done, and Shinraop should absolutely be able to keep the money based on the rules of the game.

What the "Hurr, It's a Crime Game!" crowd seems to miss every time is that being a "criminal" does not also force someone into being a low-class shithead. In fact, most large criminal organizations throughout history have been very outwardly polite and civil, which is usually pretty smart as it often allows them to hide in plain sight. Very few things are more valuable to an organization like this than a good common enemy.

By running this scam on a player he knew had a disability that most of the player base would find sympathetic, your boy Shinraop made his own choice to make himself the perfect target for anybody with motivation for finding a common enemy to use as content for their own "crime game."

Outside influence in Ranked Warring [POLL] · · 4 likes

It takes a special kind of dude to call someone else a crybaby in the same breath that he aggressively blames someone else for his own lack of ability to read.

Outside influence in Ranked Warring [POLL] ·

But would you have to race CR mercs for every hit? Remember that a reduction in hospital time changes the whole landscape. Your opponent isn't going to be paying $4m for top-tier merc hits when they are only guaranteed about 20 minutes in the hospital as opposed to 6 hours.

Outside influence in Ranked Warring [POLL] · · 1 like

5 is the only viable method IMO. 6 Sounds good at first but can just be gamed in other ways, namely by offensive mercs taking advantage of no more ED to run up med cooldowns.

The concept of mercs isn't the problem. They make wars far more strategic and fun. It's just that their hits shouldn't count like 12 hits from someone in the war.

I favor a version that allows shorter hospitalizations from outside (I believe self-bountying inactive players is a valid tactic, and not being able to hospitalize them will prevent bounties from being collected.

Finally, I am in favor of any mechanic that discourages intentionally losing wars. There needs to be a punishment for losing. Maybe an entry fee?

A Tale of Greed, Anger, and Kindness · · 4 likes

I'd suggest playing Torn with a screen reader only for a week and see if you still have this point of view

Need Advice, Player Greif-ing me · · 8 likes

I reached out and got him into our learning faction. Nothing to see here, lol.

DEDESIREGAR SCAMMED US, FAIR WARNING 4 FUTURE WARS · · 2 likes

One would have to be a total moron to join this faction. There are so many better places for players of all levels to grow instead of getting scammed in these low-ticket wars by someone who is just going to cause unneeded drama, and, for sure, pays crappy rates to anyone dumb enough to be in that faction.

I am Dede ·

Wow, The only thing I did for the past two days in Torn was make this post. Yet somehow, I got 3 firewalled $10 bounties that say "scammer."


I wonder who put those on?