Class E: Do whatever you want, it matters not. It's pretty much random at that point anyways, everyone has an equal chance of winning no matter what, but any points you spend here are really minimal anyways so it can't hurt you much but it won't help you much either
Class D: MUD. Pick either the Invader or Bavaria, upgrade it with 20 points to optimize for mud, race it for every track
Class C: MUD. The Volt is the only mud car. Upgrade it to about 50 points, optimized for mud, race it for every track
Class B: MUD. Get the blue Impressor if you're poor, or the Colina Tan price (white one that costs a lot) if you're rich (I do think the white one performs slightly better in the long run). They're both better in the dirt. Pour points into one (don't worry, you'll still win Class A races with them, so it's not a waste). Race it for every track
Class A: You've arrived at your destination. Continue to win a lot of the mud tracks with your class B mud car (there are no mud cars in Class A). I would max out a new Edmondo NSX to race on the non-mud tracks for class A.
**And yes! Optimize fully for mud when upgrading, sacrificing tarmac. It's ok. Have faith. f**k tarmac. Praise mud**
Some screenshots for proof and ultimate-guide-worthiness:
Below, you can see I put about 10 points each into the mud cars (Invader and Bavaria) and they each did great. I wasted my points dividing them. You can just pick one to upgrade. All the other cars sucked
Here, observe how the Volt was the only car that did jack shit to help me. Everything else sucked, no matter how many points they gobbled up uselessly. Why? Mud, that's why.
Even with all the points I wasted, I got into class A with about 75 points to spare. If you somehow are able to understand and follow this astonishingly complex guide, you should be able to get to Class A with over 200 points to put into some stupid non-mud car!
Q: How long did it take you to get to class A?
It took me 45 days, with a total of 497 official races. Did I race over ten times a day? I guess so, I'm crazy like that. Also I play poker a lot, racing helps it be more fun.
Q: What upgrades should I get?
I prioritize the ones that get you the most increase for your points spent. Save up for the higher tier upgrades, don't waste your points on the lower ones that have better replacements. Don't spend any points on safety, it doesn't reduce your crash chance, just reduces hospital time which is useless. And as I mentioned, get the tires, transmission, and suspension upgrades that improve dirt the most.
STEP 3: Plan your Training. You can plan up to a month of training at a time, tweak the plan, experiment with different combinations of training methods, and see what's fastest, cheapest and most efficient.
Customize your training by adding extra happy or energy (great for adding in FHCs/boosters, stock block energy or happy bonuses, free refills, event bonuses, or whatever is giving you extra happy or energy).
Have to plan your training between wars? Have to stay within a budget based on your war income? Use this to plan it right out, and the calculator will automatically subtract the time and money it'll cost for the training you plan:
And yes, credit goes to Vladar for creating the calculator that I used to "power" this planner! His original post can be found here, as well as the base calculator he made:
Bogie, can you please clarify this. Because in this post, you said that the use of multis was not what got LD permabanned, and said you're not above reversing the perma-ban based on discussions.
To me, the perma-ban is the big issue here. The difference between a 90-day jailing and permanent deletion is huge.
You are now mentioning the multis as part of the justification for the perma-ban, when it was already ruled out as a reason for perma-banning LD.
This would be misleading to the people involved in this thread, as many of them now believe LD coordinated multis to exploit this bug, when in actuality, in your words, "that just happened to be almost coincidental." (Also sounds like there was only one multi account owned by 0hope, far from a coordinated multi-ring that people are jumping into believing)
Perma-ban for using multis is well established. So when people hear "LD used multis" of course they will assume a perma-ban is justified. But what people aren't getting is that the use of multis was NOT the reason for the perm.
So the question is, should a first-offense bookie bug exploitation be enough to get someone permanently banned? Especially when the gains from such exploitation can and has been easily reversed?
That's what feels wrong to me, and the confusion from the "multis" rhetoric (and the "abetting" fiasco) is mudding up the waters of a discussion that should be focused on whether LD's actions in relation to bookie bug exploitation justifies a permanent account deletion vs the original 90-day jailing.
I haven't heard from Bogie, who would be the one I'd ultimately give weight to. I also haven't had any of you directly address my question until now, so what was I supposed to assume, given that every post I make is buried within minutes.
I'm trying to focus the discussion on the right question, as well as fact-check the many continuous wild claims of multi-ring coordinated abuse. Grafiti asked the same question, so I'm not the only one thinking the same way
Since when is taking advantage of an exploit a capital punishment, worse than multi account abuse? From what I gathered, multi account use is seen as worse
The "level of abuse" of this exploit is arguably not that big. 5b bet. And reversible through negative balances. So - it warrants discussion, which Bogie alluded to when he said he wouldn't be above rolling back the perma-ban
I'm in LD faction, but he has never personally helped me, I have almost no personal relation to him besides being a random member. I just think the punishment was heavy handed, and when I see something, I'll say something
But yeah, what I've posted so far seems to be enough to make my point and make its mark on this discussion, so I'll be done, notwithstanding any major messages directed at me, I hear ya
I haven't heard from Bogie, who would be the one I'd ultimately give weight to. I also haven't had any of you directly address my question until now, so what was I supposed to assume, given that every post I make is buried within minutes.
I'm trying to focus the discussion on the right question, as well as fact-check the many continuous wild claims of multi-ring coordinated abuse. Grafiti asked the same question, so I'm not the only one thinking the same way
Since when is taking advantage of an exploit a capital punishment, worse than multi account abuse? From what I gathered, multi account use is seen as worse
The "level of abuse" of this exploit is arguably not that big. 5b bet. And reversible through negative balances. So - it warrants discussion, which Bogie alluded to when he said he wouldn't be above rolling back the perma-ban
I'm in LD faction, but he has never personally helped me, I have almost no personal relation to him besides being a random member. I just think the punishment was heavy handed, and when I see something, I'll say something
But yeah, what I've posted so far seems to be enough to make my point and make its mark on this discussion, so I'll be done, notwithstanding any major messages directed at me, I hear ya
That's good thinking, however the only problem is that Bogie stated that the perma fed had very little to do with multi use, and had everything to do with the bug abuse.
Which, I believe you mentioned, was only totalling a 5b bet (which is in line with what LD messaged Proxima, saying he made ~17b from the whole thing. I believe the odds were around 3.5x the original bet.)
So I believe also that you asked the right question when you said "if the multi wasn't in the picture, would he be perma fed?"
The multi was already out of the picture, by Bogie's statement. So why was LD permanently fedded?
Bogie, can you please clarify this. Because in this post, you said that the use of multis was not what got LD permabanned, and said you're not above reversing the perma-ban based on discussions.
To me, the perma-ban is the big issue here. The difference between a 90-day jailing and permanent deletion is huge.
You are now mentioning the multis as part of the justification for the perma-ban, when it was already ruled out as a reason for perma-banning LD.
This would be misleading to the people involved in this thread, as many of them now believe LD coordinated multis to exploit this bug, when in actuality, in your words, "that just happened to be almost coincidental." (Also sounds like there was only one multi account owned by 0hope, far from a coordinated multi-ring that people are jumping into believing)
Perma-ban for using multis is well established. So when people hear "LD used multis" of course they will assume a perma-ban is justified. But what people aren't getting is that the use of multis was NOT the reason for the perm.
So the question is, should a first-offense bookie bug exploitation be enough to get someone permanently banned? Especially when the gains from such exploitation can and has been easily reversed?
That's what feels wrong to me, and the confusion from the "multis" rhetoric (and the "abetting" fiasco) is mudding up the waters of a discussion that should be focused on whether LD's actions in relation to bookie bug exploitation justifies a permanent account deletion vs the original 90-day jailing.
I do think the last-minute perm ban should be rolled back
1) Refer above: Bogie said it's mainly for BUG ABUSE in relation to the bookie bet. The multi situation was NOT a factor - in Bogie's words, "almost coincidental".
2) In the chat screenshot shared by Proxima, LD states he won 17.5b from that betting exploitation. 17.5b? That's actually not that much compared to his 150b+ NW (esp if you consider the RW stockpiles he has). It was rolled back anyways.
3) No prior offenses.
4) Net positive player for the community (especially given the theme of his factions, I can see how it's a safe haven for players that would be bullied elsewhere)
It sounds like LD got carried away with what he saw as a one-off money-making opportunity, trying to leverage it with friends and trusted faction mates, not realizing it would constitute bug exploitation.
He messed up, but it doesn't feel like he systematically broke the rules
Class E: Do whatever you want, it matters not. It's pretty much random at that point anyways, everyone has an equal chance of winning no matter what, but any points you spend here are really minimal anyways so it can't hurt you much but it won't help you much either
Class D: MUD. Pick either the Invader or Bavaria, upgrade it with 20 points to optimize for mud, race it for every track
Class C: MUD. The Volt is the only mud car. Upgrade it to about 50 points, optimized for mud, race it for every track
Class B: MUD. Get the blue Impressor if you're poor, or the Colina Tan price (white one that costs a lot) if you're rich (I do think the white one performs slightly better in the long run). They're both better in the dirt. Pour points into one (don't worry, you'll still win Class A races with them, so it's not a waste). Race it for every track
Class A: You've arrived at your destination. Continue to win a lot of the mud tracks with your class B mud car (there are no mud cars in Class A). I would max out a new Edmondo NSX to race on the non-mud tracks for class A.
**And yes! Optimize fully for mud when upgrading, sacrificing tarmac. It's ok. Have faith. f**k tarmac. Praise mud**
Some screenshots for proof and ultimate-guide-worthiness:
Below, you can see I put about 10 points each into the mud cars (Invader and Bavaria) and they each did great. I wasted my points dividing them. You can just pick one to upgrade. All the other cars sucked
Here, observe how the Volt was the only car that did jack shit to help me. Everything else sucked, no matter how many points they gobbled up uselessly. Why? Mud, that's why.
Even with all the points I wasted, I got into class A with about 75 points to spare. If you somehow are able to understand and follow this astonishingly complex guide, you should be able to get to Class A with over 200 points to put into some stupid non-mud car!
Q: How long did it take you to get to class A?
It took me 45 days, with a total of 497 official races. Did I race over ten times a day? I guess so, I'm crazy like that. Also I play poker a lot, racing helps it be more fun.
Q: What upgrades should I get?
I prioritize the ones that get you the most increase for your points spent. Save up for the higher tier upgrades, don't waste your points on the lower ones that have better replacements. Don't spend any points on safety, it doesn't reduce your crash chance, just reduces hospital time which is useless. And as I mentioned, get the tires, transmission, and suspension upgrades that improve dirt the most.
Great for strength builds, or for stalling mugs so you can put your money away in time
Facts:
Similar to the home run bonus, the weapon has to be used the turn before the melee attack to have a chance to parry, but it doesn’t require a hit, or damaging hit.
STEP 3: Plan your Training. You can plan up to a month of training at a time, tweak the plan, experiment with different combinations of training methods, and see what's fastest, cheapest and most efficient.
Customize your training by adding extra happy or energy (great for adding in FHCs/boosters, stock block energy or happy bonuses, free refills, event bonuses, or whatever is giving you extra happy or energy).
Have to plan your training between wars? Have to stay within a budget based on your war income? Use this to plan it right out, and the calculator will automatically subtract the time and money it'll cost for the training you plan:
And yes, credit goes to Vladar for creating the calculator that I used to "power" this planner! His original post can be found here, as well as the base calculator he made:
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