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Field trip mission while under casino exclusion · · 5 likes

Hi bug team,

 

At a bit of a loss. I'm currently under a casino exclusion, for quite some time so it wasn't in the time frame of mission being given and accepted.

 

Log can be found here: 00:42:11 - 09/03/26 You accepted the Duke contract 'Field Trip' (Expert)

 

Any way to exclude the field trip mission if a user has excluded themselves from the casino? I could have declined it, I suppose. But I also didn't want to waste a day of missions. 

 

I understand it posts a disclaimer that you may still receive a casino mission, but is that really good enough? 

Travel items broken. Wasted time · · 0 likes

Bug. 

 

Something went wrong. Traveled to canada, tried to buy something. Items broken.

 

Vanilla Torn. No scripts. 

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TV Hiring 100k INT ·

Bump! Looking for brown nose the boss. Message or mail for rates! Same trustworthiness and expectations apply. 

If you have the book Brown-nosing the Boss -> $300-$500 Million

 

  • Can read Brown-nosing the Boss when hired
  • 100k endurance and intelligence
  • Earn ~400M in a month

 

9 Star TV company looking for an employee with the book brown-nosing the boss. Work stats should be 100k endurance and intel minimum. Pay will depend on company income but I will guarantee 300M minimum and most of my readers have made over 400M. Message me for more details. 

 

Results

19:16:17 - 26/02/25 You traded $517,191,935 to The_Ginga_Ninja (about 500k total int/end)

20:45:51 - 30/03/25 You sent $554,054,820 to The_Ginga_Ninja (he used memories and mamories)

22:30:04 - 23/10/24 You sent $486,767,478 to TheMightyThor with the message: Nice haul!

13:25:21 - 29/08/24 You sent $377,233,762 to Merkelig

12/15/2024 - MorSeth earned $523,457,869

forgot to note a couple more book readers who made ~500M

8/11/2025 - Pathfinder earned $465,179,545
08/05/26 Sachmis earned $454,750,108

Travel items broken. Wasted time ·

Bug. 

 

Something went wrong. Traveled to canada, tried to buy something. Items broken.

 

Vanilla Torn. No scripts. 

TV Hiring 100k INT ·

TV Hiring 100k intel!! Looking for a new candidate.

Top 100BS Merc Service 87% Stricken 4M Rate · · 1 like

Fast and easy when I needed it. Thanks!

What is the difference between an issue and a suggestion? · · 1 like

The self-exclusion appears to stem from a very UK thing: Self-Exclusion UK Gambling commission

 

Quoting from them: 

 

Breaking your self-exclusion agreement

There may be occasions where customers who have self-excluded are able to gamble. It is the responsibility of the gambling business to put procedures in place to prevent this from happening.

 

If you have gambled whilst self-excluded you should let the gambling business know as it helps them to identify any areas where their procedures could be improved.

 

You may also wish to let us know as it provides useful information about whether gambling business procedures are working.

 

My issue was letting the gambling business know (Torn) of an area where it could have been improved. Maybe we should let the UK gambling commission know about it? moustache

 

What is the difference between an issue and a suggestion? · · 2 likes

Clearly, you're incapable of reading a journal article. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0315377

 

That's on you and I can't really help with definitions of words.

 

 

What is the difference between an issue and a suggestion? · · 3 likes

I'm the OP of that article and didn't really mean for it to blow up or cause such a discussion.

 

TL;DR: This is an issue, not a suggestion. The policy is discriminatory at worst, ignorance at best. 

 

It's clear there needs to be a proper definition of Issue versus Suggestion, because it's obviously quite opaque. As someone that works with github/gitlab/jira issues daily, this appeared to be more of an issue rather than a quality of life suggestion. If they open sourced the code, I'd even make a pull request and do the work for them. Alas, it's not. So my perspective was a technical one without all the required information to make a proper issue post. 

 

A Tangent:
I'm honestly, quite saddened by the response of the community, the devs, and the creator that lacks such empathy for people that may be suffering from real addiction issues. Gambling is a serious one and will likely be the 'smoking' of our time. It is also much different compared to other addictions that requires an external substance to drive said physiological responses that drive the addiction. 

 

In the community, it is really sad to see so many ignorant individuals blame the addict. I can only implore you that you read some literature surrounding this issue and know that someone in your own personal life (mother, daughter, wife, husband, brother, sister) could be silently suffering with this debilitating disease. Would you treat them the same? Probably not. Here are some resources for ignorant: 

 

Words matter: Stigma and discrimination behind addiction

Gambling harms, stigmatisation and discrimination: A qualitative naturalistic forum analysis

 

The Issue: 

There's a lot to unpack here from the amount of logical fallacies being employed (e.g., "Just decline the mission bro!") to the wild chedburn assertion "It will be gamed by min-maxing" without providing any evidence this was the case. In fact, this appears to be counter intuitive to all the other posts saying that declining the mission is not a big deal because "it only comes once about every 100 days". In fact, I'd accepted about 8 in the times i've accepted since logs were instantiated. I'm not sure how many I've decline and this is the first time I've come across it in self-exclusion. So if I'm gaming the mission system from an event that was accepted 8 times in 6 years, then something is fundamentally broken in the mission system. It goes beyond without saying anything about addiction issues and speaks volumes about the intentions of the developers. 

 

What the Devs et al. are saying is that the end, "Fixing the potentiality of gaming the mission systems" justifies the means, "Provide a disclaimer without fixing the real issue: A broken RNG mission system" that has the real-world potential to affect relapse onto someone.  

 

P.S. I self excluded as a goodwill gesture to a friend that loaned me money to fill out a stock-block, hence seeing this after 7100 days of playing.

 

Field trip mission while under casino exclusion · · 1 like

What's the rationale, there really should be one? Can you provide that? If not please don't comment and let the admins do that.

 

Certainly there has to be one. It requires an if statement and reroll of RNG. 

 

I'm looking for a reason beyond _just a disclaimer_. 

 

 

Field trip mission while under casino exclusion · · 5 likes

Hi bug team,

 

At a bit of a loss. I'm currently under a casino exclusion, for quite some time so it wasn't in the time frame of mission being given and accepted.

 

Log can be found here: 00:42:11 - 09/03/26 You accepted the Duke contract 'Field Trip' (Expert)

 

Any way to exclude the field trip mission if a user has excluded themselves from the casino? I could have declined it, I suppose. But I also didn't want to waste a day of missions. 

 

I understand it posts a disclaimer that you may still receive a casino mission, but is that really good enough? 

HT - Looking for warriors - 100K CHAIN HALLOWEEN · · 1 like

Bump, tight knit faction. Great leadership

HT - Looking for warriors - 100K CHAIN HALLOWEEN · · 1 like

Bump up, great faction. Close, tight knit group.

HT - Looking for warriors - 100K CHAIN HALLOWEEN ·

Bump - only third faction I've ever been in. Good, tight knit group. 

HT vs Nameless Alliance Sector 7 Showdown · · 3 likes

Lots of memes.

 

20 years of not posting (let's round up at 7,051 days). Not the stats of others. 

Deus Ibi Est

 

 

I got an award · · 1 like

Congratulations Solaris, it’s been a long road and a lot of hard work. 

💪 

Weapon Perk To Hit Multiple Enemies · · 2 likes

This is an interesting concept to me. Especially considering lesser used weapons (e.g., the Anti-tank or RPG). Any of the heavy artillery categorized weapons. 

 

This could be further enhanced (blast radius damage or the amount of damage done to enemies as it scales) through merits or built into the defense stat generally. 

 

It seems like these weapons are underutilized as it is (heavy artillery) at least in my experience in RW - which is minimal compared to most. 

Getting hospitalised ·

This is wild ... why would you antagonize the person further?

Wheel of Mediocrity ·


I'll add to this with my recent experience: went from a firebird in the wheel of Mediocrity to a Benelli M4 super ....

9* Fitness Centre (Recruiting Everyone) ·


Bump?

9* Fitness Centre (Recruiting Everyone) ·


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