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Miladin's RW Vault | Warlord, Plunder, Expose, Eviscerate, Penetrate · · 10 likes

⚔️ MILADIN'S RW VAULT ⚔️
Prices just dropped — everything marked down. Exact stats, benchmarked to real auction sales.


📜 How I trade

  • Every item shows its exact Quality / Damage / Accuracy — real stats, no scrap.
  • Prices fair & firm-ish — sensible offers (OBO) welcome, lowballs ignored.
  • Trade request or mail — either works, I reply fast.


🔫 PRIMARY — Rifles, SMG & Shotgun

 9mm Uzi
Warlord 16% · 🟡 Yellow · Q93.97 · D70.41 · A46.99
$190m
$166m
 AK74U
Warlord 16% · 🟡 Yellow · Q121.09 · D52.66 · A46.45
$145m
 Enfield SA-80
Specialist 21% · 🟡 Yellow · Q125.20 · D70.95 · A59.57
$189m
 BT MP9
Slow 20% · 🟡 Yellow · Q103.34 · D67.35 · A58.98
$81m
 Jackhammer
Eviscerate 16% · 🟡 Yellow · Q127.31 · D77.62 · A56.11
$94m
 Benelli M1 Tactical
Warlord 17% · 🟡 Yellow · Q102.80 · D45.58 · A68.70
$180m
 China Lake
Stun 10% · 🟡 Yellow · Q106.13 · D80.83 · A47.79
$125m


🗡️ MELEE — Slashing & Piercing

 Katana
Eviscerate 15% · 🟡 Yellow · Q109.87 · D58.79 · A59.20
$189m
 Diamond Bladed Knife
Wind-up 131% · 🟡 Yellow · Q124.51 · D67.90 · A66.55
$110m
 Kodachi
Fury 12% · 🟡 Yellow · Q118.09 · D67.69 · A62.12
$95m
 Claymore Sword
Eviscerate 15% · 🟡 Yellow · Q132.52 · D65.98 · A53.27
$105m
 Naval Cutlass
Plunder 24% · 🟡 Yellow · Q122.98 · D70.77 · A57.53
$329m
 Kodachi
Expose 7% · 🟡 Yellow · Q115.55 · D68.45 · A61.11
$105m
 Diamond Bladed Knife
Fury 10% · 🟡 Yellow · Q99.88 · D65.97 · A66.02
$195m

🔄 Restocked 06/09/26 · stock rotates often — bookmark & check back.

PolyTorn.com - Bet on Ranked Wars | PvP | [Staff Confirmed] · · 8 likes

A player-vs-player prediction market — for Torn

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Do you void termed or DB'd wars?
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What about someone throwing a war, or gaming a market?
Every market on earth gets gamed — even Polymarket has seen prices pushed and edges pressed. Reading the field and pricing the risk is the sport — and let's be honest, this is a crime simulator. On your side: scores are public and live, settlement is automatic from Torn's API, every bet sits on a public feed, and you can offer your position for sale before the end — it fills when another trader takes it.

What's the Xanax rate — does the Torn price matter?
PolyTorn values every Xanax at a flat $820k, the same rate in and out. Your balance is locked to Xanax value, not Torn's live item price — so if Xanax swings on the open market, it doesn't change what your balance is worth here. You cash out in Xanax too, at that same fixed rate — how much you withdraw depends on your balance.

Is my Torn API key safe?
Yes. Your key is stored encrypted and your PIN is hashed — both are used only to verify who you are. The key is read-only and can never move your Torn items or money.

How do I deposit and withdraw?
Deposits are Xanax sends you make from your Torn inventory — they credit automatically. Withdrawals are requested on-site and sent back manually to your own Torn account, in whole Xanax.

Ranked wars are just the opening.
Anything Torn's API can settle can become a market — all auto-graded from public data. What's next:

☢️ Next Dirty Bomb
when does the next one drop? — the one everyone wants
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final margin · final score · top scorer (MVP) · duration
🔗 Chains
10k / 25k / 50k / 100k milestones
💀 Raids
winner · raid score · faction destroyed
🗺️ Territory wars
who takes or holds a contested territory
🏁 Racing
race winner · podium (top 3)
🏆 Elimination
winning team · final standings
📈 Item & stock prices
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XanFlip - the last letter · · 12 likes

I want to make a full public response because the current public narrative about me is incomplete, misleading, and has already caused serious damage to my Torn account and reputation.

 

First and most importantly:

I am not denying that a bug existed in Xanflip's solo Crash game.

 

If the ledger shown by systemd is genuine, then yes, the bug clearly existed and duplicate or even triple Crash payouts happened.

 

What I am denying is intent.

 

I did not knowingly exploit Crash.

I did not "hack" Xanflip.

I did not manipulate requests.

I did not use scripts, autoclickers, or any non-standard method.

I played through the normal site UI only.

 

That distinction matters.

 

A site-side bug existing is not the same thing as a player knowingly exploiting it.

A ledger showing duplicate payouts after the fact is not the same thing as proving that I noticed those payouts live and intentionally abused them.

 

That is the entire point of this post.

 

TLDR:

  • I am not denying that the Crash bug existed.
  • I am denying that I knowingly exploited it.
  • My large balance had a real PvP explanation, and systemd himself said all PvP outcomes stand.
  • I was high-volume playing Plinko + Crash with constantly moving animated balance numbers.
  • The ledger makes the bug visible after the fact, but that is not proof I noticed it live.
  • I did not cash out and keep 4,000-6,000 Xanax, and my networth graph contradicts that rumor.

 

Long version:

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

I also want to be very clear about something else:

 

The current public wording made many people believe that I somehow "walked away" with 4,000 to 6,000 Xanax and that I am currently sitting on a giant stockpile of stolen Xanax.

 

That is false.

 

The claimed site loss and the public rumor about what I personally "have" are not the same thing. The result of the public accusation has been a flood of bounties, attacks, enemy adds, chain target adds, hostile DMs, and even threats from people who now believe I am holding thousands of Xanax from a "heist".

 

That is not true, and my public networth graph makes that obvious.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

21 May - 7.47b

22 May - 8.32b

23 May - 8.10b

24 May - 8.44b

25 May - 7.79b

26 May - 7.63b

 

This graph does not prove everything by itself, and I am not claiming that it does. But it does directly contradict the rumor that I personally cashed out and still hold a 4k-6k Xanax stockpile.

 

If I had actually extracted and kept 4,000 to 6,000 Xanax for myself, that would be reflected much more dramatically and much more permanently. Instead, what my networth graph shows is exactly what actually happened - money moving in and out through gambling, and continued play.

 

I also want to explain the full context, because without the context, some of my private chat messages to systemd may look bad or unserious.

 

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1. THE "GOD MODE" / "ALWAYS BLUE" JOKE CONTEXT

 

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Before systemd accused me privately, there was already an ongoing joke on Xanflip chat that I was "cheating", had "god mode", was the "house account", that I "always win", and that "blue always wins" whenever I played coinflip.

 

This was not about Crash.

This was about my ridiculous PvP luck streak, especially coinflip, and some raffle wins.

 

People were joking about it publicly in chat.

Even systemd himself saw it being discussed.

 

For example:

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

There were also multiple messages like:

 

  • "Miladin has god mode"
  • "Miladin is just the house account"
  • "Bro toggled the cheats fr"
  • "blue is ur lucky color"
  • "how is it blue 100% of the time"
  • "its only blue with u"
  • "Miladin always gets blue"
  • "Miladin gonna rob me"
  • "you just robbin me blind"

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

That is why when systemd first DM'd me and accused me, I did not initially take it seriously.

I thought it was another continuation of the same "god mode / cheating / always blue" joke that had already been happening in public chat for a while.

 

That was my mistake, but it is also important context.

 

My initial "Ah, the powerful god mode hahaha" response was not some confession.

It was me misunderstanding the situation because the exact same language had already been used jokingly in public chat.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

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2. HOW I WAS ACTUALLY PLAYING ON XANFLIP

 

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The main reason I was playing so heavily was the rakeback / level system.

 

On Xanflip, the more you wager, the more you level up, and the higher your rakeback becomes.

So I specifically looked for the game that had:

  • high RTP
  • low variance
  • high max bet
  • and the ability to play extremely fast

 

For me, that game was Plinko.

 

Plinko let me:

  • bet up to 16,000 tokens per bet
  • place bets extremely fast
  • and even place them in parallel

 

I was literally spamming Plinko on low settings, very often as fast as I could click or tap.

Sometimes I was on desktop, sometimes on phone, sometimes using laptop plus phone, and sometimes playing on multiple screens (Crash on one, Plinko on the second) so I did not even need to alt-tab while playing both games (explanation of why Crash a bit later).

 

This was not hidden. I explained it publicly in chat.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

I also explained publicly that this was how I got my level up so fast and why my rakeback was getting so high.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

While doing that, I also played Crash in parallel.

 

Why?

Because Crash also allowed a relatively high bet amount - 5,000 max - and while waiting for Crash rounds to start or while preparing to cash out, I could keep spamming Plinko in between.

 

So my live play pattern was often:

  • spam Plinko constantly
  • place Crash bets in between
  • sometimes also play PvP, join Jackpot or Coinflip
  • all while the balance was moving constantly

 

That is crucial to understanding why I did not notice the Crash bug live.

 

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3. WHY I DID NOT NOTICE THE BUG LIVE

 

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This is the heart of the issue.

 

I am not saying the bug was not visible in a retrospective audit.

I am saying it was not something I noticed live while playing.

 

The difference between those two things is enormous.

 

What did my actual live gameplay look like?

 

Imagine a balance like 123,456 on screen.

Now imagine all of this happening continuously:

 

-16,000

-16,000

-16,000

+8,000

+16,000

+17,600

+33,600

-5,000

+6,7xx

-80,000

+39,000

+78,000

-40,000

+16,000

-16,000

 

And not once every few minutes.

Constantly.

At times, several balance updates could happen within a single second, depending on how fast I was clicking or tapping and how many Plinko balls were resolving.

 

Imagine dropping 20-30 Plinko balls, placing a Crash bet, and then continuing to drop more Plinko balls while waiting for the Crash round to start moving.

 

Some balls are being placed, some are still falling, some are resolving, Crash is running, and the balance number is animating up and down the whole time.

 

That was my normal gameplay environment.

 

If I had one clean, isolated Crash bet and one clean, isolated payout on a static balance screen, then yes, duplicate payouts might be easy to spot.

 

That is not how I was playing.

 

I was spamming Plinko like crazy.

I had 20-30 live Plinko balls on screen at any moment.

I was also placing Crash bets.

Sometimes joining Jackpot.

Sometimes playing coinflip.

My balance was constantly moving, and the numbers were animated.

 

On top of that, I did not even know a ledger page existed until systemd told me about it after accusing me.

I only looked at the ledger afterward.

 

And once I looked at it, yes - the duplicate Crash entries are visible in hindsight.

 

But hindsight is not live awareness.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

Those ledger screenshots prove two things at once:

  1. The bug did exist.
  2. My balance environment during live play was chaotic enough that a retroactive ledger audit is not the same as noticing the bug live.

 

That is exactly why I reject the accusation of intentional exploitation.

 

The ledger proves a bug.

The ledger does not prove my intent.

 

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4. MY BIG BALANCE HAD A LEGITIMATE PVP EXPLANATION

 

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Another very important point is that I had a real and legitimate PvP upswing.

 

Systemd himself publicly stated that:

  • every PvP outcome against me stands
  • the bug only affected solo Crash
  • RNG and provably-fair commitments were untouched

 

Systemd says in his forum post: "Every PvP outcome against him stands. The bug only affected solo Crash payouts. RNG and provably-fair commitments were untouched."

 

This matters because one of the biggest assumptions people are making is:

"He deposited only a small amount, then later withdrew 1000 Xanax, so obviously he knew he was exploiting something."

 

That ignores the fact that I had major provably-fair PvP wins.

 

For example, against envytherose, I won three large coinflip matches in a row:

 

That is about +1,141,818 tokens of net profit from just those three matches alone.

That is about 1,427 Xanax worth of token profit.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

I also had another strong PvP streak against Shadows:

 

That is another +641,194 tokens of net profit.

That is about 801 Xanax worth of token profit.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

So between those two PvP streaks alone, I had about +1,783,012 tokens of legitimate net profit - about 2,229 Xanax worth.

 

That is exactly why a large balance did not automatically signal "something impossible" to me.

I had a real, public, provably-fair run of PvP wins.

 

This was not hidden.

People saw it live.

That is where the "Miladin always wins", "always blue", and "god mode" jokes came from in the first place.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

So when I later had a large balance, I naturally attributed that to the combination of:

  • legitimate PvP wins
  • continued gambling
  • Plinko volume
  • rakeback
  • and ongoing wins/losses

 

I did not have a reason to think "Crash is secretly crediting me extra."

 

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5. THE RAFFLE ISSUE

 

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I know many players are especially angry about the raffle side of this, because I won a lot of raffle prizes.

 

What I actually won was 17 ranked weapons and 1 Private Island.

I understand why that looks bad to people, and I am not trying to minimize that part.

 

I understand that if some of my raffle ticket spending was funded by incorrect Crash credits, then that needs to be part of the audit.

 

I am not denying that.

 

But again, that is not proof of intent.

 

Raffles are random and proportional.

Nobody can honestly say with certainty which exact raffles I would or would not have won with a different ticket count, unless a full audit and settlement is done carefully.

 

And more importantly, even if the raffle side needs to be unwound or settled in some way, that still does not prove that I knowingly exploited Crash.

 

It only proves that incorrect credits, if any, may have flowed into raffle participation.

 

That is an accounting issue.

It is not, by itself, proof of deliberate cheating.

 

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6. MY PRIVATE CHAT WITH SYSTEMD

 

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After I woke up from a nap and saw systemd's message, the site was still in maintenance and I initially misunderstood the accusation because of the "god mode" joke context I explained earlier.

 

Then once I realized he was serious, I repeatedly said the same thing:

  • I did play Crash a lot
  • I did play Plinko a lot
  • I spammed both like crazy
  • if there was a bug, it was not intentional
  • I did not know I was being paid multiple times
  • I was willing to discuss how to handle the damage

 

That part matters a lot.

 

I did not say:

"Yeah, I found a bug and abused it."

I did not brag about it.

I did not deny the possibility of a bug once I understood what he was saying.

I explained how I had been playing and why I had not noticed it.

 

I also said that if raffle items had been won using bug-funded tokens, then of course that had to be addressed.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

I may have misunderstood the accusation at first.

I may have reacted too casually at first because I thought it was another chat joke.

But that is not the same thing as intentional exploitation.

 

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7. THE PUBLIC DAMAGE THAT FOLLOWED

 

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This is the part that has affected me the most.

 

I am not claiming that systemd personally placed the bounties on me.

 

What I am saying is that:

  • he publicly named me
  • publicly called me a cheater
  • publicly linked my profile
  • publicly told people "if anyone has reason to seek satisfaction on his Torn profile, well, the link is right there"
  • put a site-wide modal in front of users repeating the same accusation

 

The predictable result was exactly what happened:

  • massive bounty spam
  • repeated attacks
  • long hospitalizations
  • target list adds
  • enemy list adds
  • hostile DMs
  • and even threats

 

This happened before there was any fair, calm, complete discussion.

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

"You currently have 27/30 targets on your list. 7 people have added you to their target list."

"You currently have 0/10 enemies on your list. 2 people have added you to their enemy list."

 

[image: i.ibb.co]

 

That proves exactly what the public understood:

they thought I had personally stolen and kept thousands of Xanax.

 

That is not true.

 

Even if I paid systemd tomorrow for the full amount he claims to have lost, that would not undo the damage already done to my Torn account because the public narrative is already out there and many players are now using me as a permanent bounty or chain target.

 

That is why this public response is necessary.

 

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8. WHAT I AM ACTUALLY ASKING FOR

 

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I am not posting this to pretend nothing happened.

 

I am not posting this to deny the bug.

 

I am posting this because the current public framing goes too far and accuses me of something that has not been proven - intentional exploitation.

 

Here is my position, as clearly as possible:

 

I accept that Xanflip's solo Crash game appears to have had a bug.

I accept that I may have received incorrect credits from that bug.

I do not accept that this proves I knowingly exploited it.

I do not accept being publicly branded a "cheater" or "hacker" without proof of intent.

I do not accept the false public impression that I personally walked away with and still hold 4,000 to 6,000 Xanax.

I was willing to discuss verified site-side damages in good faith.

But I was not given a fair chance to do that before the public accusation went live and the damage to my account started.

 

This is the part that makes the situation so difficult now.

 

Even if I paid systemd whatever number he believes is fair, I do not see how that fixes what has already happened.

 

The financial side of this is only one part of the damage. The larger problem now is that the public accusation created reputational damage that cannot simply be reversed by sending Xanax to systemd.

 

People now see me as a hacker.

People now see me as a cheater.

People now think I stole thousands of Xanax and still have them.

People are DMing me asking for a share of the "4k stockpile".

People have placed bounties on me.

People have added me to target lists.

People have added me as an enemy.

People have attacked and hospitalized me.

People have talked about finding my IP, DDoSing me, buying more bounties, and keeping me permanently hospitalized.

 

That is why this is not a simple "pay the operator and move on" situation anymore.

 

That does not mean verified damage should be ignored. It means the situation can no longer be treated as if the only damage that exists is systemd's accounting loss.

 

If the issue had been handled privately first, we could have discussed it properly.

 

We could have gone through the logs.

We could have separated legitimate PvP winnings from Crash duplicate credits.

We could have separated withdrawn Xanax from token balance, raffle tickets, raffle wins, losses, and open raffle exposure.

We could have calculated which part of the damage was real, which part was recovered, which part was still outstanding, and which part was impossible to fairly reconstruct.

We could have involved the relevant raffle hosts and affected players if needed.

We could have reached some kind of settlement based on verified accounting.

 

But that discussion never had a real chance to happen before I was publicly named and branded as a cheater.

 

And the accounting here is not simple.

 

This is not one clean transaction.

This is not "he took X and still has X".

This involves thousands of ledger entries, solo Crash credits, Plinko volume, PvP wins, Jackpot entries, raffle tickets, raffle wins, raffle losses, voided tickets, recovered balance, withdrawn Xanax, redeposited Xanax, and operator-side adjustments.

 

A fair calculation would take serious time.

It would probably require several people to review the same data.

It would require separating what was actually withdrawn from what was only internal token movement.

It would require separating legitimate PvP profit from bugged Crash credits.

It would require treating raffle outcomes carefully, because nobody can honestly know which exact raffles I would or would not have won with a different number of tickets.

 

Instead, the public saw "cheater caught", "profile link is right here", and "operator absorbed thousands of Xanax".

 

That framing created a mob reaction before any fair settlement discussion could happen.

 

So yes, I was willing to discuss verified damages.

 

But I am not willing to accept a situation where I silently pay a number just to cover systemd's side of the loss while the damage done to my account, my reputation, and my ability to play Torn normally remains completely unresolved.

 

Paying systemd may cover systemd's accounting loss.

 

It does not remove the cheater label from my name.

It does not remove the bounties already placed.

It does not remove me from people's target lists.

It does not undo the DMs, threats, Discord discussions, and public reputation damage.

It does not make people stop believing that I stole and kept 4,000 to 6,000 Xanax.

It does not repair the fact that I was publicly judged before intent was proven.

 

That is why I am asking for something more basic before any settlement discussion can be meaningful:

 

a correction or clarification that the Crash bug existed, but intentional exploitation was not proven

a clear distinction between "site-side loss", "raffle complications", "withdrawn Xanax", and "what I personally still hold"

removal or correction of the public wording that presents me as a proven hacker/cheater

an acknowledgment that the public post and modal caused a mob reaction against my Torn account

and only then, a fair discussion about verified damages based on actual accounting

 

I am not refusing accountability for verified damage.

 

I am refusing to accept a one-sided outcome where systemd's loss gets repaid, but the damage caused to me by the public accusation is treated as if it does not matter.

 

That is not a fair resolution.

 

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9. FINAL WORD

 

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I know some people will still say:

"Come on, how could you not notice?"

 

My answer is simple:

 

Because I was not sitting there studying a retroactive ledger.

I was high-volume gambling in real time, spamming 16k Plinko bets, 5k Crash bets, sometimes across different devices, with animated balance numbers constantly going up and down, after already having huge legitimate PvP wins that made a large balance feel normal rather than suspicious.

 

That is the truth.

 

The ledger proves a bug.

It does not prove that I knowingly exploited it.

 

I am willing to be judged on facts.

I am not willing to silently accept being turned into "the Xanflip hacker" when the actual evidence does not prove intent.

 

If anyone wants to discuss this in good faith, I am here.

XanFlip - the last letter · · 5 likes

Again, please read more than three sentences before repeating the same point.


Yes, the Crash bug existed. I never denied that.


Yes, duplicate Crash credits can be audited directly.


But the moment those tokens mix with PvP, Jackpot and raffles, it is no longer a clean "you owe X" formula.


For PvP, you cannot just say "this whole game should not count" because some part of the entry may have come from phantom balance. Simple example: if I entered a 500 Xan coinflip and I was missing 7 Xan worth of real tokens, then the accounting issue is that 7 Xan liquidity gap. It does not automatically make the entire 500 Xan entry, or the entire resulting win, fake. The fair calculation would need to track the missing amount, then continue from the actual fair PvP result.


The PvP result itself was still fair. If I won the 500 Xan coinflip, I won a fair PvP game. The question is not "delete the whole game", the question is "how much real balance was missing to enter it, and could I have deposited that difference?" I had 7-8b networth, so I was clearly capable of funding high stakes play legitimately if I needed to deposit more.


For raffles and jackpots, it is even less exact. More tickets or bigger entries increase odds, but they do not prove what would have happened with fewer tickets. I might have won some raffles with fewer tickets. I might have lost some with more. Nobody can know that retroactively with certainty.


That is why I keep saying this needs proper accounting, not "here is one number, pay it, and accept being called a cheater".


Shadows, you keep asking how I could be low balance one moment and have hundreds of thousands later (16 xan -> 1000 xan). I already showed a ledger example with zero Crash involved:


May 25, 14:55 - Jackpot bet -80,000

May 25, 14:56 - Jackpot win +31,200

May 25, 14:57 - Jackpot win +329,242

May 25, 15:15 - Jackpot bet -80,000

May 25, 15:16 - Jackpot win +156,000


That alone takes the balance from around 168k/200k to over 600k without needing a Crash bug. So no, "balance went up fast" is not proof of intent.

 

I also showed 3 games of 500 xan that I won.

Don't know why you are ignoring all that.


Also, the fact that you are now saying "even if systemd won't perma hosp you, I will if you don't pay it back" proves exactly why I said paying some number will not magically fix this.


Before this, I had no enemies, I was not a chain target, and I was not getting bounty waves. Now I am publicly branded as a cheater, people are threatening permanent hosp, adding me as target/enemy, placing bounties, and treating me as "the guy who stole thousands of Xanax".


Even if systemd and I agreed on a settlement amount, that does not undo the cheater label or the damage done to my Torn account. People would remember me as a CHEATER FOREVER.


So yes, let's separate the issues:

  • Direct duplicate Crash credits: auditable.
  • Downstream PvP / Jackpot / raffle impact: complex and partly probabilistic.
  • Intent: still not proven.
  • Public damage to my account: very real and still being ignored.

XanFlip - the last letter · · 1 like

TLDR because this is long and people clearly do not read everything:

  • I did not bid $626m for a PI. The whole raffle pool was ~$626m. My entry was 225 Xan / ~$188m, and I won with 30% odds.

  • That same day I deposited 1,047 Xan, while the PI entry cost 225 Xan. This is exactly why proper accounting matters.

  • systemd's numbers keep shifting: ~4620 Xan, almost 9000 Xan, ~6258 Xan from Crash payouts, 2,625 Xan settlement, pastebin ~5,556 Xan owed.

  • I am open to proper accounting, but not blind payment based on shifting numbers.

  • If this is a blind settlement, my counteroffer is 1,312 Xan.

  • Any payment must come with public correction/removal of the cheater framing.

  • Bug existed, accounting damage may exist, intent is still not proven.

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