Viduata: forum

Welcome to Viduata's trading pond!

I've been an avid seller since before I earned my wings, and now I'm ready to buy from you.

I'm offering up to 98% market value on a variety of items including flowers, plushies, select drugs, everyday consumables, supply packs and more!

Selling to me means you're keeping that 5% item market tax out of Chedburn's hands and instead putting it back into our precious Torn community. A tax man? In my crime game? Get the duck outta here! By avoiding losing 5% of your profit to Chedburn, you'll make more money by selling to me at a slightly lower price than selling at full price on the market - we both win!
I'll give you and extra sweet deal on billfolds, the first ever item I specialised in!

I have not and never will mug any player who trades with me - I do NOT want to end up like those poor birds inside the slot machine.

Here's my price list - https://weav3r.dev/pricelist/4354832 

Start a trade here - https://www.torn.com/trade.php#step=start&userID=4354832

Or DM me directly!
Peak activity 07:30 - 17:30, patchy activity 17:30 - 19:30, likely to be roosting 19:30 - 07:30. Weekend activity will vary.

I update my profile picture to reflect if I'm trading or not, if I'm rehabbing I will respond to trades as soon as I land.

I will send receipts upon trade completion, and will thank you for upvoting and commenting on this forum to help keep this little duck afloat.

Setting up for success

First of all, we're going to need to be living in a private island with an airstrip. This will cost a chunk, but if you're checking in regularly and flying consistently you can make back more than the rental costs ESPECIALLY when your spouse is also flying using the same property. The reason we need the PI and airstrip is because it removes the fee for flying and adds an extra ten slots for items you can bring home, as well as cuts down some of the travel time which is a huge efficiency boost. Without the fee waived and the extra capacity, it's going to be hard to make any profits travelling.

If you're struggling to find any suitable PIs on the rental market, you can use the fallback option of messaging the player 'kontamusse' and asking about his PIs. He does a rent-to-own scheme which is quite expensive early and not ideal for a player trying to train their stats efficiently (you'll be missing out on a huge amount of base happiness for a long time) BUT may be a decent avenue to take later in your Torn career; what we're really after is his 600k / day rental of a basic PI (2000 happy) with an airstrip - all you need to do is hire a pilot for 30k daily upkeep. This is a PERFECT starting point to kick off your economy!

Flying

So, what do we actually do with flying? Well, I like to keep either a 'properties' or 'travel agency' tab in my side bar for quick access (you can mess with this in your settings), then via either of those you can access the flight menu and choose a destination. Early on, you absolutely want to keep to the first set of destinations - Mexico, Cayman Islands, and Canada. These are the shortest three trips, and will be a good idea for while you're getting used to flying. 

Let's do an example flight.. 

- First, make sure you check the wiki or a reference sheet / TornPDA so make sure you're carrying enough cash - for Cayman we're going to want 15 x $4,000 as our most expensive target (the Banana Orchid flower) is $4,000 per unit, so we'll carry $65,000 for the first trip just in case we miss our landing time and get mugged for a little over 5% of our wallet total. Can't hurt to be cautious. 

- Now, we're going to go to the travel agency and select Cayman Islands, hit travel and confirm. We'll be taken to the flight screen and it'll show a progress bar and a timer for how long we have left. Unless you're a time savant, PLEASE set a timer for a minute or two before we land! Nothing sucks more than coming 30 seconds too late and seeing you're in hospital from a mugger.

- We've landed! We now have a shop inventory list in front of us, much like at the Torn city shops, and we have 15 seconds of immunity until we're a mugging target. The top section of the stock list will be knickknacks including our two targets for this location - first we'll look for the Stingray plushie towards the bottom of this first section of the shop list. If they're in stock we'll snatch up as many as we can carry and then hit 'travel home' and the top right above everything else on the page that isn't the game's UI. If the plushies are sold out, we'll look right at the top for Banana Orchid flowers, fill up with those and travel home. Still no luck? We have a backup target further down the list, and that's the Trout in the weapons section. This one we'll likely have to sell on the market and risk a mugging, but if we're flying a lot we can likely avoid that since you're unreachable in the sky.

- Well, that's it! We're heading home, you'll see the bar and timer again and can set yourself another timer for when you land if you want to be ultra efficient, or just work out roughly what time you'll need to come back and hop on another flight. Just remember to use your energy and nerve between flights (unless you're letting your energy fully fill for a big candy train of course, just try to time it so you don't miss out on your natural regen time).

Selling

So we have some stock to sell, but the item market is a rough place and we'd rather not lose profits to sales tax and muggers. Luckily, there are plenty of traders out there with a reputation to uphold, so you won't face a mugging if you sell to them. Find someone you think has acceptable prices and send them a message before setting up a trade and adding your gear. For ease, we're going to use 'kontamusse', who we mentioned earlier. We know that we can make a profit of $4,200 each on Stingray Plushies or $3,500 each on Banana Orchids when selling to him. With an inventory of 15 that's $63,000 or $52,500 profit for about 50 minutes of travelling. 
*Since writing this guide I have become a trader myself, so while you're getting started feel free to sell to me and then if you find someone else you'd rather use as your trader that is absolutely fine, I'll be sad to see you go but understand the desire to maximise profits or support a friend!

Want to carry more?

We can increase our capacity by three by buying a large suitcase for $10M in Hawaii (or more on the item market), veteran players don't recommend we bother with a small or medium suitcase to bridge the gap, but if you reeeaaally want to we're probably better getting one of those from the item market as they sell for less than the initial buy price in Hawaii. Another even better way to bump up our capacity is by joining a faction with travel capacity perks, typically factions will list this along with any crime, steadfast, and toleration perks in their bio.

Travel locations aren't all JUST shops

There are a couple of destinations with extra tabs in the side bar, like Switzerland with the Rehabilitation tab and South Africa with the Hunting tab. Rehab is where you'll want to go if you overdose on a drug that then removes all of your happiness - a session at rehab will recover that for you at a cost of $250K. It will also decrease your addiction level, which will have negative effects on your efficiency at your job and get you in trouble with the player in charge / get you fired from your City job eventually. 

That's about all there is to it! I'd highly recommend you utilise TornPDA on your phone to check item stock rotation for the countries you're thinking of flying to, so you can make sure you're in with a good shot at hitting the items you want. It's the orange circular icon with the box in it, and the list can be filtered by country and by categories of items available. You can also see what each item will cost as a quick reference point for how much to fly with. If you're not having a great time with the app, check out TornCityTim on youtube for a visual guide on travelling and using PDA to enhance your gameplay.

I'll add at the bottom here a quick list of target items for each destination and what they'll cost and earn you, and then my own personal reference sheet (using my max capacity of 24), just in case that's useful too.

 SHORT TRIPS

Mexico - 36 minutes round trip with an airstrip

- Jaguar plush @ $10,000 each, profit $2,600 each

- Dahlia flower @ $300 each, profit $1,500 each

- backups are Card Skimmers or Tequila (both sell on market)

Cayman Islands - 50 minutes (most profitable short trip per hour)

- Stingray plush @ $400 each, profit $4,200 each

- Banana Orchid @ $4,000 each, profit $3,500 each

- backup is Trout (sell on market)

Canada - 58 minutes

- Wolverine plush @ $30 each, profit $4,470 each

- Crocus @ $600 each, profit $3,700 each

- backup is Insulin (sell to pharmacy - can be held to store liquidity)

 MEDIUM TRIPS

Hawaii - 188 minutes / 3 hours 8 minutes (most profitable medium trip per hour but inconsistent stock)

- Shark Fin @ $21,892 each, profit $44,108 each (education needed, or sell on market slightly lower, best item to ship overall with the education)

- Turtle Shell @ $64,136 each, profit $33,864 each (sell to jewellery store)

- backup is Orchid @ $700 each, profit $3,500 each

UK - 222 minutes / 3 hours 42 minutes

- Red Fox plush @ $1,000 each, profit $21,400 each

- Nessie Plush @ $200 each, profit $21,300 each

- Heather @ $5,000 each, profit $21,100 each

- backups are Shrooms or Ketamine (sell on market)

Argentina - 234 minutes / 3 hours 54 minutes (second most profitable medium trip per hour)

- Monkey plush @ $400 each, profit $28,000 each

- Ceibo @ $500 each, profit $25,500 each

- backups are Shrooms or Ketamine (sell on market)

Switzerland - 246 minutes / 4 hours 6 minutes

- Chamois plush @ $400 each, profit $12,600 each

- Edelweiss @ $900 each, profit $6,900 each

- backups are Ergotamine Ampoule *better than plush or flower*, Ephenedrine Powder, Safrole Oil (sell to pharmacy)

 LONG TRIPS (these take longer than your energy bar takes to refill from empty)

Japan - 316 minutes / 5 hours 16 minutes

- Cherry Blossom @ $500 each, profit $39,200 each

- Counterfeit Manga @ $24,112 each, profit $45,888 each (sell to pawn shop)

- backup is Whale Meat @ $2,240 each, profit $37,760 each (education needed, or sell lower on market)

China - 338 minutes / 5 hours 38 minutes

- Pangolin Scales @ $144,536 each, profit $60,464 each (education needed, sell lower on market)

- Panda plush @ $400 each, profit $ 48,800 each

- Peony @ $5,000 each, profit $ 47,000 each

- backup is Tiger Bone (needs education or market)

UAE - 380 minutes / 6 hours 20 minutes (most profitable long trip per hour)

- Camel plush @ $14,000 each, profit $53,000 each

- Tribulus Omanense @ $6,000 each, profit $49,700 each

- backups are Ambergris Lump, Natural Pearls (sell to jewellery store)

South Africa - 416 minutes / 6 hours 56 minutes

- Lion plush @ $400 each, profit $55,200 each

- African Violet @ $2,000 each, profit $53,300 each

- backups are Uncut Diamond and Raw Ivory (sell to jewellery store, to pawn shop)

Here's my reference sheet assuming a capacity of 24 and using kontamusse's prices - be aware the profits here may become outdated as flower and plushie prices change, but they're still a decent reference point against each other.

Two essential pieces of guidance are available here, from TexasTuberTim's youtube channel 'TornCityTim', and I highly recommend you watch them even if you then decide you don't need to read what I've written here -  data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DtiaoZgvO1K4%26list%3DPLkWlwACQkR_1H6gWo02N54V3ITFXbzBGS%26index%3D1%26t%3D2s%26pp%3DiAQB0gcJCUwLAYcqIYzv&source=gmail&ust=1784104313691000&usg=AOvVaw2lJ28zEw09iUnse_3BajZK">YouTube video tiaoZgvO1K4 and  data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DkPW6fMLaaIM%26list%3DPLkWlwACQkR_1H6gWo02N54V3ITFXbzBGS%26index%3D2%26pp%3DiAQB0gcJCUwLAYcqIYzv&source=gmail&ust=1784104313691000&usg=AOvVaw2mNmqiLKHeLXsqNMBtvSYh">YouTube video kPW6fMLaaIM 

Some of the info given may be repeated in this written advice, that is because the player writing the guide learned from Tim and the legacy he built in his faction.

So my biggest piece of advice as someone who has no-lifed the game for a month and consumed a lot of youtube advice and written recommendations from veteran players, is to recognise the value of your energy. Nothing is more valuable than your E. You want to almost exclusively use your E for the gym - the dump is a trap to slow you down, mugging or going after random players who have bothered you in some way is not worth sacrificing your stat gains for. You first thought seeing your energy bar full should be gym gym gym. Before we look at the gym though, let's look at your living situation as that will have a huge impact on the value you can get from your E when training your stats.

The recommended path for a new player is to find a mansion to rent. Do not buy property until a lot later in your torn career, renting will be a more efficient use of your money while you are growing your account. Use the estate agents and find a cheap mansion rental for about seven days. If you haven't joined a faction yet, I recommend you do so as many factions will rent out very cheap mansions to their newer players to help them grow, as well as provide opportunities to make money, which will enable you to move into the next property you should be renting after your mansion - the private island. You want to find a PI with an airstrip and a happiness of at least 3500, but if you're having a hard time finding one you can afford it's better to rent one with lower happy than not at all - try messaging the veteran player 'kontamusse' about PI rentals if you need to go cheaper. Don't cripple yourself rushing into one, but know that once you hit level 15 (very doable before 20 days account age) you can use that airstrip to make money which can pay your rent. To make a PI more affordable, it is very smart to marry a friend or factionmate so you can share the PI and split the rent and upkeep costs. Eventually you want to move to a PI with maximum happiness, as happy is key to effective energy use and stat growth. Let's get into it.

How do you get the most out of your energy? 
If you're out there mugging people for cash, you'd better make damn sure the target will be holding 20x the value of a can of red cow or rockstar rudolph energy drink (or better) to ensure the 5% mug value can return your energy to you - the best way to do this is to buy-mug. As a newer player you don't want to be wrapped up in buy-mugging, you want to be spending your energy in the gym, but I say this to highlight just how much it costs you to mug someone.

To maximise the value in the gym, you want to use as much candy as you can every time you train a full / near-full bar of energy. You've probably heard of happy jumping if you've been reading forums or chatting with other players. Happy jumping will give you big numbers in chunks, but it is a money sink and does not actually beat a player maximising on their natural E when comparing the two training styles over a long period of time (feel free to search forums for the debate and to see when happy jumping actually is beneficial), so that's not the regimen we'll be laying out here.
Your daily training will ideally be the following pattern, and completed within the same quarter hour period to avoid losing the benefit of the excess happy you will be generating: 1) open Torn with your energy full and use as many candies as possible, train all energy in one go at the gym following faction steadfast if applicable, 

2) use an energy refill if you have the points available and train all energy again, 

3) use a xanax and train all energy in one go again (after level 15 only),

4) for the rest of the day repeat steps 1 and 3 together when energy is full / near-full. Early on you will only be able to afford one xanax per day (again, after reaching level 15 only), check bazzars for cheaper xanax than you can find on the item market, scale this up to two and then three when your economy allows but do not financially cripple yourself. Later in your career when you can consistently afford EDVDs you will want to add those to the regime as well, by then you will fully know how best to fit that into your routine.

When working towards level 15, you want to follow the training regime until you have at least 1K total stats, and then utilise your energy exclusively attacking the targets on Baldr's list or found using ffscouter ( https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/535292-ff-scouter-v2 ) to grind exp to reach level 15 so you can gain access to flying. Flying will give you access to a great economy boost via plushies and flowers, a way to avoid anyone who is harassing you, and you will be able to go to rehab if you overdose on xanax (this will restore the lost happiness from the OD and remove some addiction). 

Tip: when breaking the flight destinations into three groups based on travel time, the most profitable flushies in each group are at Cayman Islands, Argentina, and China. Some destinations have other items that are more profitable but potentially harder to offload, use the wiki or reach out to Viduata [4354832] for more info on the alternatives. When flying to make money, you will want to take advantage of the TornPDA app on your phone or tablet to work out when your target item is likely to be in stock. For help see this video from Torn veteran TexasTuberTim -  data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3DzM8KIB7X9zY%26pp%3DygUPdG9ybmNpdHl0aW0gcGRh&source=gmail&ust=1784104313691000&usg=AOvVaw3KmWpxImenc671Ysb866sw">YouTube video zM8KIB7X9zY

Next, let's talk about the bank and education.

You want to ALWAYS have cash maturing in the bank. Some guides will advise you to immediately work through each investment slot to unlock the longer investment times with better interest - don't. Only use the one week investments as you will be growing your cash rapidly as you get yourself rolling with flying and trading. You will want to be able to increase the amount you have in the bank regularly since more money invested means more interest gains and that cash will be safe from muggers or minor losses in the stock market. The goal is to have 2B dollars invested in the bank and then you can work up to longer investment periods.
The cash you have outside the bank can be stored in your faction's vault (make sure only leadership has access first - there have been some huge thefts when the wrong person has been given vault access in other factions previously), stored in low stakes stocks on the stock market if you use points to unlock the stock ticker, stored in the form of items you can buy low and sell for profit when needed (eg. beer, lollipops, empty blood bags), and be held in a 'ghost trade' set up with a player you trust - this takes money from your pocket and reserves it for a trade that will expire after six hours have passed whilst still allowing you to access it with ease unless you are abroad. If you don't have anyone to ghost trade with, ask a trader you trust or use the writer of this guide (Viduata [4354832], who doesn't care to make enemies in this game so won't cancel a trade early and then mug you). 

For education, many guides will tell you to beeline for sports science. This *is* a core set of education courses to focus early, but you can greatly benefit from completing 'intro to biology', and 'intravenous therapy' first, particularly if you're going to be joining a faction that does any warring or if you want to get into trading and selling to other players. 'IV therapy' unlocks the ability to use blood bags, which you and your faction can use to heal effectively, and self hospitalise with during wars and when setting up item sales that stand to make a large profit, amongst other scenarios.
For advice on what courses to do after the two in biology and the set of sports science, see this video from Tim for a summary of all courses -  data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v%3D_sKdkJd6kJE%26list%3DPLkWlwACQkR_1H6gWo02N54V3ITFXbzBGS%26index%3D13%26pp%3DiAQB&source=gmail&ust=1784104313691000&usg=AOvVaw2n8Sd_D1QbXea14M3DDdeE">YouTube video _sKdkJd6kJE

Now, it's time to look at merits.

Merits are invaluable personal growth currency earned by meeting milestones and criteria within the game, and you use them to unlock permanent boosts to your account. These can be reset with points later on if you wish. 

When spending merits, you will benefit greatly from first maxing out your education time reduction, and then your bank interest. Following those, you may want to pull yourself up to 7/10 in crime progression, life, and crit. You can take them further if you wish, I'm just recommending seven to allow you to gain more boosts quickly as the costs scale. Beyond these, you may be at a point where you wish to invest in weapon mastery or passive stat boosts, do whatever is the most fun or beneficial to you personally, or speak to a Torn veteran for advice. 

You can look through the honors, merits and medals using the medal icon below your stamina/nerve/life bars. It's a good idea to look through the lists of honors as these will be the way you can grind out merit points to spend in the merit tab.

Here are some easier ones to focus on early: 

- Read a chronicle (found in the newspaper, leave a chronicle page open while you go grab lunch or whatever, it takes about 15 minutes)

- Defeat a married couple - use Baldr's list or ffscouter to find a target you can beat, then see if they have a spouse you can also beat, then take them out back to back

- Defeat an opponent with your spouse - marry a pal and team up, it's what it says on the tin

- Defeat someone with more / double / five times your battle stats - a list of these can be found in Baldr's list, just search Baldr's guide in forums

- Defeat someone with the domino banner - again, there's a list of these on Baldr's guide

- Make an investment in the bank - as stated, you want to be doing this regularly anyway

There are others that will unlock as you progress, like level milestones, battle and gym milestones, numbers of items used etc. 

For crimes, you can kind of do what you want, but there are efficient ways to tackle each different crime. Early on you should focus on search for cash, the junkyard is where you should spend all of your nerve at times when it has a good success rate (on sunday and monday) - this area gives lots of items you can sell or utilise later on. When you've made some progress with SfC, I like picking up shoplifting as it gives a nice boost to your candy access if you solely target the candy store. That's just my personal preference, the main thing I want to point out is that when doing graffiti, you'll want to focus almost solely on graffiti as your reputation will degrade over time and you probably won't want to come back to it to get the merits once you've gotten more invested in a different crime - for that reason it's a crime I'm personally leaving until later.

Here's a great guide for all of the crimes in the current system (2.0), written by player Emforus - https://www.torn.com/forums.php#p=threads&f=61&t=16385729

That's all I have for now! Hope it helps you and your mates grow and get the most fun out of the game, I know I'm having an absolute riot with it so far.

As a bonus, here are a few traders I trust -  TexasTuberTim [3069367],  chips_shields [3903056],   kontamusse [2408039], and now, after this was originally posted, me! Here's my trading forum.
That last one, kontamusse, also rents out lower base happy (2000) PIs at an affordable rate, and does a rent to buy programme too. I do recommend a higher base happy PI than what he offers when you can afford it BUT he is a solid trader and a great first PI landlord if you are struggling to find a high base happy one you can afford.

10/10, a trader I aim to emulate

Welcome to The Whistling Duck Bazaar! 

Specialising in flushies for all of your museum needs.

Expect the occasional Xanax and other useful bits and bobs too!

Looking to sell? I've got you covered there! Here's my pricelist!

Bumping after another good trade, thanks as always :) 

I can confirm pdk set up a trade that was then cancelled, and that log is missing for me

Super trustworthy trader mentored by my favourite retiree, will be checking in again soon! 10/10 😻

Open now!

Welcome to The Whistling Duck Bazaar! 

Specialising in flushies for all of your museum needs.

Expect the occasional Xanax and other useful bits and bobs too!

Looking to sell? I've got you covered there! Here's my pricelist!

My guy, this guide is my time and research I have given you to help you out, and I'm trying very hard to help you in chat already. I never told you I was a charity :L

You're a real one, good luck everyone!

Happy to announce that my xanax prices have been improved during the fine-tuning after I moved to TornW3B, and I've pulled up what I'll pay for the cheaper few imported plushies to match the % vs market price of the rest of the imported plushies for some better consistency 

Reliable as ever :)

Hi folks! I've migrated to using TornW3B for my pricing as it's a much tidier UI when you're checking prices. Check it out HERE and upvote it if you've had a good experience trading with me! 

Will be setting up a price list using Weav3r's site this week as it seems some folks have quite a preference for the UI on there 

10/10, a trader I aim to emulate

Instant service yet again - comment to bump as thanks 😁

Immediate response in the in-game evening when the other trader I frequent is offline, perfect fit for my schedule so adding to my list of traders to return to - thank you!

I picked up an awkward item from a client in need of quick cash and was able to turn it over to Unique the same day - a big relief for a smaller trader and very much appreciated, will be returning in the future!

Update to this - I now buy imported goods myself! You can find my pricelist here [TornW3B] and I will always accept asap. I'm most active morning and afternoon (in game time) but generally check in regularly during the evening too.

Welcome to Viduata's trading pond!

I've been an avid seller since before I earned my wings, and now I'm ready to buy from you.

I'm offering up to 98% market value on a variety of items including flowers, plushies, select drugs, everyday consumables, supply packs and more!

Selling to me means you're keeping that 5% item market tax out of Chedburn's hands and instead putting it back into our precious Torn community. A tax man? In my crime game? Get the duck outta here! By avoiding losing 5% of your profit to Chedburn, you'll make more money by selling to me at a slightly lower price than selling at full price on the market - we both win!
I'll give you and extra sweet deal on billfolds, the first ever item I specialised in!

I have not and never will mug any player who trades with me - I do NOT want to end up like those poor birds inside the slot machine.

Here's my price list - https://weav3r.dev/pricelist/4354832 

Start a trade here - https://www.torn.com/trade.php#step=start&userID=4354832

Or DM me directly!
Peak activity 07:30 - 17:30, patchy activity 17:30 - 19:30, likely to be roosting 19:30 - 07:30. Weekend activity will vary.

I update my profile picture to reflect if I'm trading or not, if I'm rehabbing I will respond to trades as soon as I land.

I will send receipts upon trade completion, and will thank you for upvoting and commenting on this forum to help keep this little duck afloat.

Came for Xanax and saw the lotto - why not! Cool thing you're doing here :)
09:34:28 - 03/08/26 You bought 2x Xanax on Deadringers's bazaar at $810,899 each for a total of $1,621,798

Thank you Gym, really helped me conserve energy clearing an ammo usage mission, you're a legend for putting yourself out there and helping others! 

Dropping this here for anyone not using PDA, a friend has been using this to predict stocks for their flights, may be of use to anyone playing exclusively in browser - torn-intel.com/abroad-stock