Please put the "Try again" button in a static position, regardless of the amount of text or previous crime result. Many players have a set ritual they repeat and for us, it's frustrating to hunt for the button position when it changes. This is a small and presumably easy quality of life change.
Overlaid two different results as an example. There are way worse results than this where the buttons hardly even overlap, forcing a lot of vertical mouse movement and possibly swiping on small screen devices. [image: i.imgur.com]
Overlaid two different results as an example. There are way worse results than this where the buttons hardly even overlap.
PS: It would have been even nicer to have a "Spend All Nerve" button but it's understandable that that would be way harder to implement since a negative result could interfere with the process.
EDIT: 265 Likes. Many suggestions are to put the buttons above the text and that seems like a simple and effective solution. I also noticed this behavior when hunting in South Africa yesterday and I bet it's also in some other parts of Torn that uses this system, like organized crimes. Thanks for everyone's likes to get this to Ched a year after starting the thread.
I was asking some drug related questions in faction chat, as I don't use drugs in Torn. One question was misunderstood and, long story short, me and Zacc90 think this is a good idea. What do you think?
Problem: Not enough education courses. Problem: Not enough companies. Problem: Not enough drugs. Problem: Not enough custom items created by users.
Solution: Chemistry aka. drug cooking.
What should Chemistry do?
In short, it gives you the ability to mix drugs (or create custom drugs?)(or cook drugs from new items like bleach?) I imagine it would be fun if you had a cooking skill, like hunting or driving, that improves as you use it. The better the skill, the better the drug created, IE. less of a loss on potency, or perhaps other modifiers like less (or more) addiction.
In my mind I see your lab having sliders you get to move up and down (unlocking more options with educations?). Moving some will automatically move others (perhaps less restricted after certain educations?) . An increase in cooking skill increases the possible gap between these sliders. Some target effects could include + and - to:
Battle stats (temporary or permanent) Energy (adding, stacking ability) Nerve (adding, stacking ability) Happy (adding, stacking ability) Life Crime success rate Attack Energy cost Driving Skill (temporary or permanent) Drug Cooldown Drug OD Chance to name a few.
Expansion around the idea: A new education course, Chemistry, would give access to cooking. Courses would unlock abilities like combining two drugs (later more?), reducing or increasing certain effects (with proportionate down/upsides), having some effects double for you as the creator of the drug (where bought custom drugs would be less potent to those who didn't make it?), and the ability to buy a science lab (via points like stock ticker?). A new company, Pharmacy, could have some sweet passive bonuses and specials to this (or it could be a starter job, unlocking the cook ability a la reviving) Plenty of new, custom (designer?) drugs to fit peoples needs more accurately.
What effect will this have on Torn's economy? Points spend on chemistry set = $ spent. $ spent on more drugs to level up skill. $ spent on new companies. $ spent on potentially "ingredient" items. $ spent on education (bonus side effect of increasing ISTC stock value) Excited people sharing their homebrew custom Drug. Heck maybe even give an option to name the thing? We are bordering Cannabis growing games here (also not a bad idea?) Money changing hands during drug trade. I need not remind you that $ spent in game is ultimately RL $ in Chedworks' pocket.
Development time? 6-8 months should be enough for the backend. Another 2-4 month's worth of testing. This can be done in a year if you are excited about it. I'm sure that if we tweak the ups and downs, the initial advantages and the eventual final envisioned advantages, that this can work. Ched if you and the boys are looking for a new idea to play around with (since you are probably tired of working on Crimes 2.0) this is it.
Also since this and related ideas has never been suggested before I suggest we look at it long and we look at it hard.. https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=4&t=16091602&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=19257514 https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=4&t=16090442&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=19242529 https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=2&t=16081046&b=0&a=0&start=0&to=19112734 https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=4&t=16040533&b=0&a=0
I'm not searching the other 80 pages but you get the idea.
Oh, also bring back dongs.
PS: Isn't it strange how drugs are legal in Torn (or at least we are free from any repercussions from using it) but not sold locally?
EDIT: GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER GAME OVER
I would like to play a game inspired by recent events.
You send me an amount of $ and I double it for you and send it back.
Easy right?
"But phLOx, what if you don't send back my money? Are you a scammer?" To that I say "Only sometimes." "Your game is stupid and you are stupid!" Hang on a second. There are rules to my scammery.
I have a predetermined secret number. If you send me anything more than that number, I am keeping everything, like the greedy little piggy I am. (Actually, it goes back into the "Maximum payout" limit, I don't keep any proceeds from this game) If you send me less than that I will send you back TWICE the amount.
I am starting the number low, and here is why: Each time someone gets their money doubled, I add their amount to my limit. Each time someone gets their money scammed, I remove 10% of my limit.
Example: My hidden limit is $500. John sends me $200. Because he is under my limit I send him $400 and add to my limit his amount. The new limit is now $700. Jane sends me $2000 and I keep it because its over my limit. I also subtract 10% from my limit, which makes it $630 now.
Win and lose conditions: The game ends when I have spent a total of 10M+scammed $. I DONT REALLY have a money doubling machine, I'm sponsoring the winnings myself, therefore I need a spending limit. If this limit is reached they have lost the game. They will be crowned "Ultimate Jerk of [Current month and year]" and everyone will hate them forever as the game will be over and everyone's fun will be spoiled.
If someone requests the exact amount of the current limit, that person will have won the game and promptly crowned "Supreme Scam Champion of [Current Month and Year]" and receive 4x the limit amount or 40m, whichever is lower.
I will handle send requests chronologically (first in - first out) and paste the results here. I will let you know if you were scammed, so if you haven't received a message yet, its because I haven't come around to it yet. You wont be left in the dark, you will either receive double your $ or a message. You do not have to post in this thread if you don't want to, as I will do so on your half regardless.
IMPORTANT: If you do participate, when sending $ remember to add a message. This is for my excel script to correctly process it, but also because I am lazy and will keep your money if I don't know what it was for. You do not need to post here to get results.
RESTRICTION: If your money gets doubled, you cannot ask for the same amount again, you have to ask for at least THREE TIMES as much as your previous double request. If you wait 24 hours since your last ask, you can ask any amount again.
Anyone up for playing?
If the game goes on a for a long time, I will post a stats update, as I'm a sucker for those things.
EDIT: Few players asking about rounding during the removal of 10% upon a failure to double. I'm rounding to nearest 1. In other words, 0.1-.04* becomes 0 and 0.5-0.9* becomes 1. This seems logical as fractions (or cents) doesn't exist in Torn.
I don't know how to be more transparent than this!
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Here's the deal. At the end of each day, at my discretion, I will pick one winner. What you have to do to win is post a funny GIF. The one I find the funniest at the end of the day will receive a DP. There are 31 DPs total to be given away. I may get behind a few days every now and again but I promise to deliver even if I do. This offer ends on 30 June 2017. You may enter as many times as you like each day, but try to keep all your GIFs in a single post per day. Remember quality over quantity.
Videos also welcome but keep them short.
Oh and lastly, an explosive surprise waits for those who spams with crap, so keep the quality top notch lads and laddies.
While I respect you a lot as a person Alexstrasza, (Life-Binder, former Aspect of the red dragonflight, guardian of all life in the world of Azeroth, hero to all (not a boy/girl thing))I disagree with your sentiment entirely. (please do not interpret my doing so as a form of disrespect)
Here is why.
While "Building an Empire" is possible in Torn, it is not meant as a permanent state. Everything you get and make in Torn is either by screwing someone else over or by hard work (this mirrors RL pretty well). It's a ruthless game, where strong players get to rule over the weak. Newbies can be hospital camped and bountied (albeit less now with the bounty cap at 10), blackmailed and extorted.
Remember "surrendering fees"? It's pretty much back on the table now, and I feel many would say it used to be an integral part of faction warring. Due to there being so little drawbacks to failing a faction battle, people became complacent. With destructive warring, factions are no longer the "safe haven" it became over the past few years, but once again the ruthless "violent mobster gangs" they were meant to be.
Factions are going to die. It has happened before and it will continue to happen. Their world won't end, though. They will form new factions, be a "2.0" or an "in memory of" faction, but life will go on, as it always has.
The main advantage for Chedworks is the new moneysink that the game desperately needs to curb inflation. The main advantage for players is Torn returning to its roots. For the longest time I personally didn't join a faction, as the feared "white screen" was too big of a deterrent for me as a young player. Not being in a faction is again a valid strategy to playing Torn, as the warring life isn't for many casual players.
I personally like the idea that no-one is safe anymore (again). You need to work to keep what you built up. Keep that reputation high enough so that 3 or 4 DB's don't wipe your faction. Keep some $ in the bank to pay off a superior faction that threatens you with war (welcome back, extortion!) and make sure you have dedicated players in your faction. There are so many more ways now to get respect now than what there were in our early days, that there's no excuse for not having enough respect to survive a few DBs. There is also something new for players to work for. Can't beat that faction with pure strength? Throw some $ at it and make them go bye bye. It's a shame that RL $ can influence this, but that is nothing new and another matter I won't go into here.
This is a scary time to be a Tornizen, yes, but we are all in it together. We either play nice or be tough enough to survive when we run our mouths which happens in lot in this drug- and crime-ridden, god-forsaken place.
My take on a summarized answer to the question "What is the purpose of Destructive Warring?"
For factions to battle each other in a serious, consequence-driven environment.
What consequences does this have?
For Players:
Pick your words, and your battles, carefully
Pick your friends and enemies carefully
For Factions
Have a DB ready. If not for use, then as deterrent (this also mirrors RL pretty accurately)
Don't overspend respect
For Chedworks
More war, more fighting requires more $ which equals more DP sold and more subscriptions
Expensive DB parts removes liquid $ from the rich, reducing inflation
Fighting between TOP10 factions keeps smaller factions within TOP10 reach
The advantages are numerous, the drawbacks are few and nothing new in the world of Torn.
While I sleep uneasier in my Private Island, I sleep easier in RL knowing that Torn will do better financially due to this change, as well as enhancing that Torn flavor we have come to love.
PS: I secretly hope some old and powerful factions gets rustled out of their positions as top-dogs. No-one should be untouchable. Except BB. That thing, it scares me.
Request: On the racing custom events page it would be crazy helpful to be able to sort the table via column names. The main reason for this would be easier to find certain named races but more importantly, by when the next one starts. Filters would also be nice (no need to see full races and 50 races I don't have the password for!) but I'd be happy with just being able to sort by "start time" at this point.
Currently, it feels like the game has skewed its attention, and therefore rewards, towards warring factions. This was made clear in as many words multiple times as the entire point, from Ched and co.
While it's great there's a focus, it seems to me that other playstyles aren't being supported as actively due to this massive skewing of reward versus effort. I hate that fighting and war is Ched's favorite child since it detracts from what could be a way more diverse game. The site revamp, items and weapons are all amazing and a huge step in the right direction.
Torn used to be, to me, a site filled with what I considered mini-games. Most of these were worth spending either personal time or game energy on and be rewarding. Currently, there are many features but most of them feel like they are slipped in as a truly half-arsed alternative to the true money maker (fighting). Search the dump could be an entire mini game on its own, but right now its kind of useless unless you enjoy collecting bricks.
I don't actively take part in Xmastown but it's a great example of what could be. We could have roguelike/choose your own adventure quests or missions where we get buffed or punished for our choices with a reward at the end of said adventure. Forked roads where we need to make choices. It could have dice rolls and tests of skill along the way and even take into account your other stats at times, battle stats, works stats, hunting and racing stat, etc. could all be fun ways to keep a player engaged and rewarded for having those stats high and encourage people to put a bit more focus into them if they want to succeed more random rolls during adventure.
People should have to, but also want to, wisely choose what they want to spend their actual time but also torn energy on. Training and fighting shouldn't be the only viable options for energy. Revive was one of the very few alternatives that was potentially viable, but was quickly made less valuable to solve an issue with fightning-based activities...instant discharge.
Laslty, on a lighter note but no less important, how about breeding robo-construction? Imagine if you will, everyone gets assigned a shoddy, scrappy, rusty 'ol dog bot that they can enter into fights. First, some NPC fights, get the story rolling, but ultimately championships between players in different leagues.
And the player eventually gets access to additional charging pods; a slot that is required for owning and using a bot. Now since all bots are pretty much unique, be it their stats, physique, breed material, color (RGB lightning!) etc, you could strip parts from your bots and build a mega bot, or merge some of their parts for a chance at better specs.
Okay this analogy is getting away from me but in short, bring back dogs.
100%, Admins should be disconnected from the game, they shouldn't be players or allowed to have accounts. Not out of cruelty, spite, malice or ill-wishes but simply to keep admin power out of the hands of players.
A connection is formed where committee members are players, and they interact with admins as necessary.
With regards to the current topic, I do not understand what Bogie is apologizing for, it sounds like an unnecessary apology. Good riddance to those involved. May their shadows never darken our doorsteps again.
There's only one female torn player that has my heart and she knows who she is. Hint: Shes got huge badongas but those are still second to her kindness and third to her wit.
I didn't have this issue on Torn yesterday but I did experience it on another website, so I can confirm it is not a Torn-specific issue for what that is worth. It is however now working again for me.
If this issue persists for anyone else I recommend flushing your DNS.
Everyone has the same destination, it's how we make the journey that determines who we are. I hope you have friends and family to keep you company through this sad and scary time. f**k the big C. See you on the other side, sister.
There are at least 400-450 gambling sites that are better, easier, and more fun than doing so on Torn. Pointing fingers at Torn for providing a fun alternative way to make fake money is a step in the wrong direction.
Secondly, allow me to brazenly point my finger and laugh at people who have trouble "not doing something" only to blame enablers rather than deal with their issues.
Why don't lazy women who are scared of bears and men just learn karate? Alternatively, don't walk around alone in the forest. Also, as a man, if I see another man in the forest I'm not hanging around to find out what that creep is doing there, since I'd be way too busy doing my own weird man stuff. Equality! Checkmate, atheists!
Didn't you know? Only whites can be racist and only women can be harassed. White males are the devil and have been in power for far too long, they don't deserve to be treated equally!
What made you draw the line at sexual harassment? Secondly, does this mean you see other forms of harassment like physical, emotional, racial or psychological harassment as "lesser" than sexual, since you allow that in your faction?
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