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Skip down to the colored text if you just want to see the math of important stat points for happy jumps vs FHC and Natural training and don't wish to read reasons to not happy jump!
I wrote this not to tell people not to happy jump but to explain what the real value of a happy jump is at different points of your game and what you sacrifice doing it early on repeatably i vary much enjoy helping new players to the game but when some of them read and see the effects of a happy jump they don't understand that the math is more complicated then it may seem and there are other things to think about then rushing your training!
I always have a issue with guides that only explain how to do a happy jump without explaining why and when not to do a happy jump so i got off my ass did the math and made some examples of what is going on when you happy jump or fhc train vs natural training (with xanax for all of them and no job points although in the end energy jobs are way better then happy jobs unless you have the happy book)
For a wile i stopped trying to fight the guides and explaining to new players that happy jumps are not all as good as people make them out to be long term. Yes i do see value in 1 or 2 of them in your vary first few days if you can rack up the funds but after that i argue the bad facts about happy jumps
1. You stunt your passive income that you can have later on in your torn game every happy jump is about 25m that adds up fast 4 of them is 100m witch could be in your bank making interest (at a 2bill bank cap you are gaining about 230m every 2 months witch can be used for further investments or other training methods and keeping your self with donator status and a pi this is much better for your training long term and will help you afford FHC training later)
2. a lot of players get burnt out spending all there money they worked too hard for (prob wasting energy attacking people and losing for money witch to my point makes more wasted energy that could have been used for training )and are broke because early on they did not invest there money well!
There are some people who can handle that money grind vary well early on and to them i say happy jump away but i see more people burn out and go broke then i see having the skills to grind out that much cash and still push through and build there bank that fast and can go right into fhc training when they are ready.
Anyhow here is the calculated MATH layed out at where i find to be the most important stat points and methods of training at each point so you all can better understand what is going on here and you can cut your own path through the complicated maze of torn city!
all situations are based on maxing out booster and drug cool down and take the same amount of time to do as 1 happy jump at 1k energy with the wait for the cooldown to use a exticy to x2 your happy to be fair as possible for time vs gain! and full booster cool down on A and B
so 5 xanax=1250k energy + 960 natural regen + 750 energy from fhcs +150 refill = 3110 energy Lets call this method A with 5k base happy (extra xanax cuz no need to take a exticy)
or 4 xanax=1k energy + 0 natural regen + 0 from FHCs 150 from refill =1150 energy and 5k base happy +Dvds 12500 happy and a exticy =x2 for a total of 1150 energy and about 35k happy lets call this method b
or just 5 xanax and natural energy refill no boosters and a refill call this method c with 2360 energy and 5k happy
all calculated with George's gym0% extra gains yes other gyms would have diff stat amounts but you will fly through the gyms fast if your active and sill have the same results as to witch is better and the same sort of %gap between each method in each gym
lets say the stat you are training is 1 your a day 1 newb
Method A - Your total gain will be around = 7,353
Method B - Your total gain will be around = 19,951
Method C - Your total gain will be around = 5,656
(conclusion being B would be best for your time A would be a waist of money and C would be 1/4 as effective but you would save 25m that could be used for future training methods)
Now same thing with lets say 400k stat
A= 62,600
B=42,569
C=47,503
(and conclusion is different now A is the best and even C is better with nat regen without happy jumping Prob still recomeding C at this point no reason to spend all on FHC training here unless your wealthy enough to do it a lot)
and again with 55million stat
A=6,900,803
B=2,847,102
C=5,236,622
Now happy jumping is garbage FHC training is vary much worth its cost and C is not so bad....
This dose not account for energy from jobs or possible happy from jobs but unless you have the happy book going on the energy jobs will far out benefit the happy jobs when considering how much job points would be used to boost your happy to a further point.
Anyhow i hope this clears things up and gives you all a better understanding of the math behind when to and when not to happy jump
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must have 100k in at least 1 stats to apply or 75k + high EE
Currently we do 1 week 10 star 1 week 9
Hypnotoad said to join my oil rig!
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must have 100k in at least 1 stats to apply or 75k + high EE
Currently we do 1 week 10 star 1 week 9
Hypnotoad said to join my oil rig!
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It be nice to have a education course in each category that is repeatable once done all of that type. A "refresher course" that gives a temp benefit or even just job stats.
All benefits would take like 2 weeks to do the course and last 1 week after.
biology = 10% increased rev chance
Combat = 5% extra melee damage
Business = 3 employee efficiently
Health and fitness = 2% gym gains
Computer since = No extra cost for anonymous bounty listings
general studies = 10% job stat gains
Self defense = 5% passive defense
Sports science = steroids 10% more effective
Mathematics = 50% decrease in stock sale fees
History = 10% more awareness
Law = 50% less bail fees
Psychology = 5 more nerve
Something along the lines of a short time ability that u can chose to gain for 1 week. this gives players who completed the education system something to still get usage out of it. can also charge a few million to take the course witch will give more use to that stock benefit.
could be diff benefits or amounts the idea is to bring more life to the education system as our players have long since done them all.
All benefits would take like 2 weeks to do the course and last 1 week after.
biology = 10% increased rev chance
Combat = 5% extra melee damage
Business = 3 employee efficiently
Health and fitness = 2% gym gains
Computer since = No extra cost for anonymous bounty listings
general studies = 10% job stat gains
Self defense = 5% passive defense
Sports science = steroids 10% more effective
Mathematics = 50% decrease in stock sale fees
History = 10% more awareness
Law = 50% less bail fees
Psychology = 5 more nerve
Something along the lines of a short time ability that u can chose to gain for 1 week. this gives players who completed the education system something to still get usage out of it. can also charge a few million to take the course witch will give more use to that stock benefit.
could be diff benefits or amounts the idea is to bring more life to the education system as our players have long since done them all.
games simple don't let this post go 5 hours without someone posting on it!
rules.
1. No one can post more then once for every 5 posts this will disqualify you all posts by this person will be ignored like they did not happen!
2. You MUST "Mail" me to notify me that there was a 5 hour gap between your post and the next post just so i know someone won it.
3. Troll prize (rule 1 still applys to you as well) the troll who breaks the most gaps wins as well GL trolls
Both the player before the 5 hour gap and the person after the 5 hour gap win (there must be at least) 5 hours between the 2 posts. & the troll who prevented 5 hour gaps gets 5m as well (troll's must follow rules as well or it wont count)
good luck all i hope you all have fun! may do this again in the future if it turns out well!
Round 1 winners!
You sent $5,000,000 to MikePence with the message: Winner of 5 hour gap!
You sent $5,000,000 to Unorthodox with the message: Winner of 5 hour gap!
Round 2 winners
You sent $5,000,000 to Whitty with the message: 5 hour gap winner!!
You sent $5,000,000 to AeroZeppelin with the message: 5 hour gap winner!!
You sent $5,000,000 to Zin_Lay_Nwe with the message: 5 hour gap winner!!
Round 3 will start at date
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To me the line is scripts that use more then your own api key. There is great scripts and webpages that use a large api key database but far to much potential to abuse it.
Seams to be a lot of gray in the rules of what is a un fair advantage when it comes to api's and scripting.
Shouldn't be aloud to gain info from someone else's api key there is a limit on api calls per key for a reason avoiding that cap by using other peoples api key should be agents the rules.
I rarely play torn poker but i play real poker a lot... im not gonna say you suck at poker i have not played with you but... the worst thing to do in poker is to discourage bad players from playing. Bad Players are what make you money don't dilute the player pool from all the bad players!
If they win with a bad move you say GG great move smile and bankrupt them in the long run!
If your playing till your the bankrupt your most likely playing the wrong roll in this situation.
another thing to think about is sometimes... someone is playing way under there stakes and just fucking around and if chips are ammo well lets just say if shoot blindly around a target eventually your gonna hit it... and if that target got no more ammo eventually he just cant shoot back.
There was once a time in NF in game chat me and another member were telling a new faction member whom pulled off a vic/xanax scam that scamming was not aloud in NF and they should give the money back but we were wrong. Yeti corrected us telling us that there was no rules about scamming in NF.... just saying its totally within nukes own rules to scam in NF.
yes and i sadly think this is true.
wish it was not i would prefer to give the guy a high five for playing the game as intended for the theft but i think it was a accident in this case.
defiantly in the right faction for that sorta test!
yes xblue currently still has leadership roll so.... some "crazy reason"
nah nothing fishy knowing the guy he is loyal to a fault to nuke. Fault is not even fully his its the ones letting that much money be in the vault in the first place. teach members to invest or bank in one of the many other ways to protect your own cash.
When there is that much money in the vaults in combination with that amount of people with permissions ... rob em if you can if you don't someone else will or "mistakes" will be made!
why we blocking the names ? i mean i get why your hiding xbluejobs but why block Vitamins? defiantly no need to block vitamins?
There is no application process just show up and your in.
Simple solution stop using the "Faction" Vault as Personal banks. So many different placeless to hold money that does not have other players controlling it that also makes you more money......
Wait never mind continue ill send in a friend to help manage it.
Currently a lot of people have ED 4 out of 7 days of the week due to drawn out time out wars Bounties are used in a non termed war to reduce targets on your own faction and make wars slower then they should be.
I just think Bounties should be paused and delisted during the time ED is enabled solves a few issues. bounty system was not made with ED in mind and all the drawn out termed wars if we cant fix the termed wars at the moment at least we should fix things it broke.
This is of no benefit to me i just think it would make this part of the game slightly better. Silly when someone wastes a few million bountying me and i can just go into trade say hey im naked free money! and ED out with 0 repercussions.
Just a thought vote up or down keep in mind implementing this has 0 benefit to me just to the game.
GG whats your next goal?
some old friend got me into it then he quit 2 weeks later and left me here stuck forever clicking around.
honestly i like running into old people i use to play with as a mission just reminds you of them and keeps them from being forgotten. sure the ones with collectables are remembered in that way as well but not everyone bothers with the collectables and remembers people that way so i prefer to keep it as is myself.
first step correct but instead of under the local bridge get a job at taco bell and other fast food joints so you work 24/7 and spend all your time in the bathroom playing torn if they ask if your ok just tell them you ate there before your shift. Use all funds from the job to buy donator packs.
;p don't need to prove nothing plenty of people know its my oil rig and the reasons for it and if you don't know meh i could care less you can make random stuff up in your head then post it lol...
Not all players want permissions i tried to retire from leadership when i sold my faction to have more time irl. nuke just put me in that position again and i simply took my retirement fund this should stop having people put me in charge. i don't think any one that robs a vault thinks they are gonna then go off to gain some sorta leadership in another random faction.
Should know when i sold my faction i gave away most the $ to members also gave some friends some funds and gear as well when i took nukes vault nuke even caught one and kicked him from the faction for not giving it back this is all publicly known so again no need to prove just look.
a unnecessarily large net worth is not everyone's goal. if that's your game cool do it up best of luck to you. I have more then enough & enough before i robbed the vault. I have little left of my current goals that networth thing may be my next endeavor but not for a while at least more likely some sorta stats goal or something or possibly whatever new thing happens in the game.
anyhow think what you like and make your random roomers lol I'm perfectly happy playing my game the way i play it as should all be. Play your game and have fun doing so.
nice guess but totally not accurate ;p other then what i spent on SE's still have plenty of net worth in other places like my oil rig (that i had before the theft that is just being held by another player) among other things by other players ;p
nice random guess though...
feel free to make some more random stuff up lol
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