MarlonBrando's karma complaint about JFA meets jeers and a lock
In August 2016 MarlonBrando [1337797] said JFA had downvoted their posts and asked what AOW should do. Replies included jokes and criticism, and an officer commented. The thread was locked the next day.
Involved: MarlonBrando [1337797] , Stretch [1846075] Officer , Dolfwagos [1900418] Committee , Sweeney_Todd [27468] , David [132845] and 2 more
A karma poll in the forums
On 07 Aug 2016 MarlonBrando [1337797] started the thread "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA". The opening post drew 73 likes and 129 dislikes.[1][2]
TornLife's archive lists 233 replies and 3,095 views. The thread is locked and now sits in the Graveyard board. 6 posts in it were written by Torn staff, officers or moderators.[2]
The complaint and the escalation
MarlonBrando said JFA, as a faction of 99 members, had downvoted all their posts over the last year. They said their karma had gone from over 2,600+ to just under 1,500, a loss of over 1,100. Participant claim[1]
MarlonBrando said AOW had responded with 10,000+ downvotes and that 99% of all downvotes came from JFA. They said staff had reported the matter to the administrators and nothing was being done. Participant claim[1]
The opening post asked readers to vote on whether AOW needed to zero the entire JFA faction. Later that day MarlonBrando wrote "JFA, you are all pathetic losers" and "zeroing you all lifetime it is".[1][3]
David [132845] posted an image of a forum signature and wrote that some people were willing to give 100k per downvote. David called organized cyber-bullying, where people offer to pay for it, the point where they drew the line. Participant claim[4]
MarlonBrando quoted David's post and declared JFA "confirmed cheaters". They wrote that paying for downvotes was against Torn rules, that it had gone on daily for over a year, and called for all of JFA to be banned. Allegation[5]
Replies from players and officers
Remilia [1284087] asked whether JFA might not be the sole reason the posts were downvoted. They added that most of MarlonBrando's posts "are fun, but really, really, really, pointless".[6]
FidelCashflow [1993550] wrote that all they got out of the thread was that MarlonBrando had cried to admins about pointless forum karma. Rich_Kuklinski [1549948] said the poll lacked options for karma not mattering or removing it, and noted that MarlonBrando had disliked their post.[7][8]
Kapten_Klitoris [1873683] posted a mock warning that MarlonBrando was about to use their "strongest weapon, downrating". Joke[9]
A post by udontwanna [1725559] reads: "You sent a Box of Tissues to MarlonBrando with the message: dont cry... dry your eye...".[10]
Dolfwagos [1900418], listed as a Torn officer/committee, wrote that they almost fell off their chair laughing at the thread. They wrote that MarlonBrando was "basically asking for the down votes".[11]
Stretch [1846075], listed as a Torn officer/committee, alleged that MarlonBrando had nonsensically declared on JFA before and had now started "karma silliness", becoming upset when people played back. Allegation[12]
Mat-Senpai [952164] wrote that karma is "pretty shite" and that they would be fine with its removal. ToxicMonkeyMZC [712861] asked who really cared about karma anyway.[13][14]
A lock the next day
On 08 Aug 2016 Dolfwagos wrote that they had not realised the thread was still going. They also wrote that MarlonBrando downvoted their posts although they had not downvoted MarlonBrando's.[15][16]
part_timer [1533745] wrote that they had thought MarlonBrando had achieved the impossible and united the forum.[17]
Sweeney_Todd [27468] wrote "this has gone on long enough" and posted "Locked...". The thread is locked.[2][18]
Timeline
Original sources 18
- Post by MarlonBrando [1337797] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Thread "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" (Graveyard) ·
- Post by MarlonBrando [1337797] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by David [132845] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by MarlonBrando [1337797] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Remilia [1284087] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by FidelCashflow [1993550] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Rich_Kuklinski [1549948] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Kapten_Klitoris [1873683] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by udontwanna [1725559] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Dolfwagos [1900418] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Stretch [1846075] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Mat-Senpai [952164] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by ToxicMonkeyMZC [712861] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Dolfwagos [1900418] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Dolfwagos [1900418] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by part_timer [1533745] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
- Post by Sweeney_Todd [27468] in "[karma] Karma Abuse by JFA" ·
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