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Losing to A LOT weaker players.

Started by Karma [513022] on in Attacking.

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Apo [1637653]

lil grim, base on your stats build a guy with 50m total can easily beat you easily now.. Goodluck with rebuilding now..
shak [1592807]

Ched keeps referring to drug addiction in every reply.

Case in point myself v RICH_KUKLINSKI he has around 250 all balance and has taken more drugs than me pays higher rehab cost. I have 850m def 200 speed 200 str 100k dex and 10 merits in protection. I am lucky ever hitting him yet he can hit me easily with his small str and has beaten every time but once. Being he is clearly more "addicted" than me how does my def have no impact but his dex works basically 100%.

Seems to me this system had the wrong base for testing and the testing was totally inept group attacks or not. You cannot balance trillions billions or millions of stats and lower life and make it all "fair" as he calls it no matter what the damn drug addiction is. If 2 people have basically the same drugs taken then you can remove this so called addiction percent as he goes on about. All this seems to do is favor new players which is what is wanted, since when all is said and done they will advertise heavily to get more players, you cannot have a newbie struggle forever otherwise the game wont go ahead as is clearly the agenda and as has happened in the past with the amount of multies and restarts (who get all their cash back). Seems more sense to get rid of a lot of older players with decent amount spent on stats and decent amount of cash to remake the game without actually remaking it.

The higher end always win in this as they have the cash/items (staff items) and they are more often than NOT playing the game like we do because they don't have to. Its not the same game to them as it is to us that have been trying to "be what you want to be but do it now" as it states on login page. I hold out hope that he is not just trying to make a new game by shitty updates rather than making a new game. Look at the mugging now and god help us when warring 2.0 comes out.



and again i cant hit him

http://www.torn.com/loader.php?sid=attackLog&ID=9a98c27730be5f1ac239f63d46a71b38


shak [1592807]

We rehab almost always same time and take drugs at same rate. I believe he is making excuses for a flawed system, but that's my opinion.
1615348 [1615348]

who the hell said anything about total drugs if you rehab you aint addicted no more ched was saying if you do drugs and dont rehab it will effect your stats so clearly that guy is rehabing you aint
shak [1592807]

Um i rehab every 14 xanax he rehabs every 16. Staff can see that, clearly you got no idea what you are talking about. Im sure i said we take drugs at same times and rehab at same times.
shak [1592807]

So you take half the post, don't read any other info or look at his stats compared to mine (drugs taken flights to swiz) then say i don't rehab. I ain't guna argue with someone who just posts for the fuk of it and does not look into what was said.
Htr [89581]

well, I just came back from rehab, my total is 3,5 billion and many merits spent on attacking and I still lost to a random weak player like this:

http://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=1362579

Mentions: Kheiron [1362579]

Matt [850391]

Still don't see anything being done about this. How can it be right or "fair" when a player who has spent so much more time and money on training their stats when someone with a small percentage of those stats can beat them very easily.
50% stat effectiveness reduction per 5 xanax is ridiculous, and means that any active player will have to rehab every other day to prevent much weaker players from touching them.
As has also been mentioned a few posts up, defense doesn't actually matter now, as you can hit players for damage as long as they don't have like 8x more defense than your strength, which is quite unlikely. In my opinion, anyone with half your defense shouldn't be making a lot if any damage.
If drugs are going to have such a big impact now rehab needs to be cut severely, flight times to switzerland need to be cut, or just reduce the impact of drugs on stats as it is clearly too much now.

Also, the stat balancing needs to be completely changed as it has been completely ruined, and I don't see any real answers being given here which tells me staff devs/ched don't really give a f**k and aren't going to change it as they feel it is "fair"...
Pluto [541636]

The years and years of doing xanax, waking up to not miss a train in the middle of the night, donating real £ to pay for rehab costs, all lost on this update.

The rehabbing bit is bollocks too - I have tested it rehabbed and drugged. I lose to way lower statted players addicted or clean. Why should I be in my faction anymore? The chaining element is now gone.

My 940 million DEF is now pointless, as is my STR. I just get hit all the time - which I could live with if the amount of damage was in relation to my DEF - which it is not.

Pander to new players by letting them join, do a few stats and be able to beat big statted players? Where is the logic - unless Ched only wants more and more newer players to play - donating more than any older player would do. Looks like it's goodbye to the older players that have worked tirelessly for years to build stats.

Surely a better option would be to re balance stats, set up limits as to what levels all players can hit (say +/-20) and auto upgrade level holders. Level holders cannot complain about this, not with this new system!

This seriously needs looking at before all the old guys leave - and they will.

How much of a fun, addictive game will it be without old guys, chaining and experience? All noobs playing here - buying and selling stuff with no goals stat wise to achieve (as there is no point) - it really will be Farmville.
DreamForWar [1659398]

Battle stats? Do I really need to train? Cant I just spend my few hours here to spend my E on attacking?

(New player wondered when he signed in TC xD )
Hank [1732212]

The mechanics behind attacking 2.0 is great, if your dealing with players below the stat cap (50m). But it seems once you hit the stat cap on all your stats you can compete against most players in torn. So I wonder if removing or increasing the stat cap is a logical solution? I know this might piss off older players who have been stuck with stats above 50m for years, but it would also enable your stats to increase at a much faster rate and enable you to adapt to the new attacking system.
ArticFz [1583141]

Maybe you are late to join this game. I am close to cap. I feel cap shouldnt be changed just because new players are coming.
Actually just less than one and half a year is required to reach the stat cap if u are training with 3 xanax perday and using most of ur natural energy for training.
Already the new update has given advantage to new gamers, i think its enough. Just my opinion. Dont jump at me :p