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Woapalanne [287045]

The good thing about the Constitution of the United States is that it is adaptable. There is a process for amending it. At one point a slave was considered 2/3 of a person for the right of voting. That was removed from the constitution. So amendment can apply to articles as well. I understand that the Founding Fathers didn't want any branch of the government to be too powerful and as a result they designed the supreme court to not be subject to the whims of the people and in doing so they wanted to prevent the Supreme Court by being too powerful by preventing judicial activism. So here's a possible alternative. Transfer the veto right from the president to the supreme court.
codematrix [1780652]

I do like most of the Constitution, key word most. The Constitution was created by a bunch of white men who possibly weren't thinking about the future of America for women, nonwhites, and other minority groups. In fact, the Founding Fathers themselves said that "all men are created equal". What about women, girls, boys, and people of other genders, both genders, genderfluids, transgenders, or people who don't even consider themselves to be of any gender at all? It's interesting, really.
Collete [1389080]

Except for native americans I do not think the east coast of america was a diverse ethnic mix at the time nor do I think they had alot of transgenders running around asking for civil rights if they did can you link me please .
codematrix [1780652]

I'm not saying that they certainly did have transgender, bigender, genderfluid, or agender people around at that time. However, the people who created the Constitution could have at least considered the importance of the rights of women, natives, and other races. Besides, there were non-white people in America well before the time of the Constitution. Really, saying that America wasn't a very diverse ethic mix is a bit off, to me. There were indentured slaves who weren't really enslaved like the people stolen from Africa and the islands, but had no choice but to work. Also, there were people from other European countries besides the former ruling country of England, too, like the French, Germans, Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Belgian, Dutch, and many, many others.
Collete [1389080]

Also, there were people from other European countries besides the former ruling country of England, too, like the French, Germans, Irish, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Belgian, Dutch, and many, many others.

I think they considered themselves to be white at the time
Hades [1728299]

There were many Irish people stolen as you put it too. Thousands of Irish people were rounded up and brought to the US as slaves around those times also.
codematrix [1780652]

well, yes, but we can't be sure that the founding fathers were talking about all people.... right? I'm not really sure. I'm certainly hoping that they meant all people.....
Tupac-Soprano [1095582]

our founding fathers fought along side black people, and women even helped. there's documented cases. so im fairly sure they treated them all just as they did everyone else. but then again i wasn't there.
883567 [883567]

It's more like "a bunch of hypocrites" than "a bunch of men".

FREEDOM FOR ALL MEN FROM TYRANNY
...but only white men, and from a non-existent form of tyranny which i kind of just made up in my head, but which we'll probably introduce over the next few centuries, primarily against non-Americans, but eventually against anyone with coin in their pocket.

Side note: the closest to being "alongside black people" they came was owning them as slaves, which was a trait the majority of them shared. The few blacks to fight on the American side did so because they misread the concept of freedom for all as applying to everyone, as opposed to a select few. Easy mistake to make.