i did after t was discussed with all who were in....-) we had 98% at the time playing fair after th jumped us...n beat them down with half their size ..so....whats your point?
some werent online so yes few got kicked ...TH kicked all after loosing the war..which could have given a nice bonus..core had players enter again hit n leave ..n only BB in the faction...we thougfht we were the moral winners n decided to have the war draw then when we had 98% ...we didnt start that BS..
What are you talking about...you booted everyone and then spent your respect on a faction upgrade that allowed you to get destroyed. That's the definition of shortsighted.
I am not trying to insult you. It may have been what I'd have done in your situation and Core booting everyone but BB was just as shortsighted. Where's TH at nowadays?
get your facts straight ..1- i didnt kick all most left out their own 2- i didnt upgrade anything...was other person..cause t wasnt my faction at all ..i was just a member who funded t all from helvetes side..again get your facts straight for call me shortsighted -)
Mojomofo upgraded the steadfast before the end of the th war he thoght you get a bigger bonus on low respect ..lol it didn't work out so well .. I went to bed woke up I was kicked from helvete .. Mailed tits .. He said he kicked everyone so th could not get the bonus either ..that didn't work out so well either lol ..
Faction is Family. Leader does what is best for the Faction, which includes the members. Kicking just to win the war definitely doesnt go down as a positive action
TH merged with TUS. Either way, Helvete made the poor decision to upgrade leaving themselves with next to no respest. I don't understand how people could call the Helvete leaders good ones after that >_>
Kudos for paying back the vault amounts to everyone though Sticky!
Regardless of whether the decision to empty Helvete was justified, I think I'm safe in saying that it was a strategic nightmare. :P
Long term (As has already been pointed out) Helvete is back, TH is gone. Sticky is alive and kicking, whilst Core ran for it. Lost the battle maybe, but the war is won.
Edit: Paying back vault amounts? Now that's great leadership.
@ boo, did TH really merge with TuS? What was left in TH that TuS would want? xD
@ Herodotus, I think it's more like; 'Helvete is re-born, TH is a thing of the past but certainly left its mark in the history books (for good or for bad reasons).
all I know, is that is was a hell load of fun. :D crazy wars, retail fests, dirty war tactics and nukes.
Edit: Just out of interest, a question for Helvete. Did any members 'leave' the faction after it was destroyed? (Ie didn't rejoin the new one). Or was it more the case that it brought you guys together as a team to bring Helvete back?
From my understanding most of them joined back, it was a bit before my torn time but yeah some didn't bother coming back and others quit and others couldn't be asked to rebuild, but i don't think helvete are re-born either p!
Helvete got destroyed because the only person left was awol when the bomb got dropped and came back 10 mins too late. We had targets and revivers set up abroad to get back on 1 respect. To upgrade before impact is common to save respect, but someone slept through the bomb lol.
The crook in this incident is TH. They couldnt take a loss and ruined a good war by kicking their members when hel had 98%. Even worse, TH started jumping in out trying to crawl back. Hel asked the online members to leave and had to kick offliners just to counter such coward tactics, but after consideration. To let TH win by foul tactics would be stupid. We were afraid other nub factions would start to do the same, so someone had to put the foot down.
Some try to tell history in reverse, or only mention that helvete kicked their members. It´s like moaning about someone beating you up, but forget to tell that you sucker-punched them in the back.
Yes there are too many nerds and geeks who play this game who get upset by trivial things like losing a war. Train your stats and fight back if stuff like that worries you dont nerd it out and throw your toys out of your pram.