Interwebs Movement

I guess this is going to get moved, but I felt like it belonged in the general discussion (because games, imgur/reddit, everyone knows type of sh*t).

Now I'm not an aged man, I'm *only* 26 so I have some "old" nostalgia as well as rather modern experiences. Obviously I've played 2D and 3D games before I got into text based games, and I'm that that it's two completely different experiences. What I like about text based games is that I can express myself, unlike online games (be it MMO or FPS). The problem back in the day was that you could not contact or express your opinion about a game, and nowadays you usually need to display your real name (facebook etc).

Now we all know that people will make everything dramatic on the internet, even make fun about wanting to kill you. I will admit that I use a worse language sometimes, only when dealing with owners/companies, but I limit myself to "shithead" and "garbage game" and avoid actual threats. I'm drifting, so let me get to the point, recently Call of Duty released their trailer for the new CoD game, let's watch it:



Today, the people behind Battlefield released their's:



Now, I'm not a "fan" of Battlefield, but if I'm to buy a FPS game I've been more likely to go for their game. In the later years people has been asking for "WWI" and "WWII" type games, and neither has complied. I'm thrilled that BF is going WWI personally, and I love their trailer. If CoD got as high of a like ratio as Battlefield I would be pissed, but seeing them with a negative ratio of 71% dislikes just breaks me. These people has spent millions on developing something they want to make, they follow the same recipe as always (progression in time) and get all the hate possible. I mean, imagine spending years on creating something, get hated beyond imagination, and your competitor's theme music get's reputation as "your funeral". It's sad for the studio, especially seeing as their fans were begging for futuristic games (according to sales numbers). All of a sudden, they do a 180 and hate you for doing your best.

Don't get me wrong, I love the battlefield trailer so much I've listened to the soundtrack for an hour now (Seven nation army by White Stripes, Remixed by The Glitch Mob). Let's just listen to the masterpiece:




It almost feels like people are trapped in the past, feeling like they can't be heard, desperately screaming for attention because they've never been heard before. In my opinion Battlefield deserves the credit it has gotten, and Call of Duty has gotten (several times more) what it deserves - for not listening to customer requests. I still believe that people are reacting beyond what is reasonable though, joking about hoping the "CoD developers commits suicide". It's just such a striking blow, people has a certain level of pride, some to an unhealthy level (ref: Toyota engineer committed suicide for mistake).

As an electrician, if a customer sent me a mail requesting/joking about me committing suicide I would not look the other way. It seems that people today are becoming brats, behaving and saying whatever they *hope* generates a like or two. Not considering what the actual receiver... well, receives.

I'm happy that BF wins this round, but as an end customer I have to say that I'm glad that they focus on two different aspects of war. If both developers made a WWI game I'd be sad. Games is about a diverse experience, and if everyone made the same game it would not be a diverse (sub-) culture. What do you guys and gals think? Is the extreme hatred for CoD on them? I certainly like Battlefield's trailer more, but in-game I won't hear the theme music so... anything could happen.

there is a general discussion for non-torn stuff.

As Mat-Senpai said, this belongs in Non-Related > Gaming, here: http://www.torn.com/forums.php?p=forums&f=40&b=0&a=0

Moved to appropriate forum.

The internet hate train is a real thing and the CoD developers are used to it. They are just doing stuff for the money and do not really care about customer love/hate. They should be by now used to such twisted responses from their customers. Everybody knows how the Youtube comment section behaves and everybody knows how a certain bunch of Redditors, tumblr users, 9gagers, twitterati and other such internet community of social karma addicts and meme makers behave. They sit in front of their PC all day and look for their personal fifteen minutes of internet glory. I am not saying this is bad, it just makes them forget who they are. Overexposure to similarly over-reacting wannabe "Anonymous anarchy-hailing hacktivists" desensitizes them to the real life implications of what they do or say. They have become a mindless mob.

I don't think CoD developers are going to suicide over a few thousand negative comments. It could be a serious morale destroyer for individual programmers who may have worked really hard to make the game. Regardless of whether they did quantitative or qualitative work for the game it is only understandable that they would feel personally responsible and will be devastated by these comments if they had worked with an iota of passion for their jobs. Even so, they would be stupid to just take these comments as anything more than mob mentality. What would be even more stupid is if they dismissed the entire negative commentary as random hate.

There are some serious issues with the CoD franchise and their incremental annual update franchise does feel overly stale during gameplay. They need to shake it off and work on their game but I believe they won't do anything about it. They will just release another incremental update next year and make millions from the fanboy train they have. Then once when the franchise sales slow down over a few years they will throw it off and start something else.

It does sadden me to see the hate train but I do not feel sorry for the developers. They are probably getting a disproportionate response to their level of failure and since the games haven't released yet we can't definitively say that CoD Infinite Warfare is 'very bad' or Battlefield 1 is 'amazing'. We will have to wait for the release of the games till a final verdict is written but even if CoD IW turns out to be real bad it will just serve to amplify the hate train and nobody needs to feel sorry for Activision. They know well enough to ignore it.

Probably, CoD IW is going to be underwhelming as usual and Battlefield 1 might just barely live up to the hype. If a developer doesn't care for their customers then they do not deserve to stay in business, regardless of their past successes and armies of fanboys.

I don't think you should feel bad for the developers too, we may feel sorry for humanity as such in light of the behavior of all parties involved. The developers have let their loyal customers down; now the internet hate train is ganging up on them and the fanboys are still going to buy the game and make it a commercial success. There are still many who will say that the entire video gaming industry is junk and must not exist. It is all just karma and an awe-inspiring display of stupidity. I would recommend just watching and enjoying and learning to laugh at the hate-train antics of the armchair gaming experts; if anything at all can be learned from this ruckus.

One cannot simply afford to be a decent human being these days...