How about laying a life sentence on anyone found to have facilitated the access to guns through its sale. It's not like guns grow on trees and taking out a classified in the paper to sell a firearm that can potentially be used to kill someone seems like a pretty rotten way of establishing a measure of control over a lethal device.
Cash in hand in a parking lot is a good way of facilitating someone with bad intentions
What a stupid thing to say.
The gun laws have NOTHING to do with these deaths and to even insinuate it shows immaturity and a complete lack of knowledge of the world of terrorism. Do you not think Muslim terrorists can source their own weapons?
I am not a big fan of US gun laws but it is not my country so it has nothing to do with me - nor has it anything to do with these killings.
we definitely need to take a hard look at how we sell, document, and allow permits for guns. yet until our police can actually get the illegal guns off of the streets I don't trust them to keep me safe from a criminal with an illegal gun.
In 1996 they banned semi auto rifles , semi auto shotguns and pump action shotguns , the government paid people to hand them in , then they went out and bought bolt action and lever action rifles to replace them instead we actually have more guns here then before the ban.
This was after the Port Arthur Massacre the thing was one of the guns he had was supposed to have been destroyed by police in another state.
Gun deaths were declining before this happened and continued to decline afterwards
Homicide statistics
Over the past 18 years (1 July 1989 to 30 June 2007), the rate* of homicide incidents decreased from 1.9 in 1990-91 and 1992-93 to the second-lowest recorded rate, of 1.3, in 2006-07. *rate per 100,000 population.
http://www.aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html
It's a tragedy. So many people killed. There are such tragedies without guns though... Perhaps gun control would help to a certain extent but there is no fix all.
America has a population of over three hundred million. An old Chinese saying comes to mind. "In woods so big, there is every type of bird." No rules will ever stop the dangerous and hateful.
Rediculous that evert time some idiot kills innocent people there are other people who try to use it as propaganda to take away lawful rights of people who had nothing to do with the crime.
People like Bloomberg actively peddle hundreds of millions of dollars to the media to keep anti-gun issues in the news stream.
These SINGLE people have contributed more money towards gun control per year than the NRA's entire 2.5million person membership base has donated towards pro-gun issues. It absolutely is a media issue.
Gun homicides amount to just under the amount of drunk driving related deaths. Perspective is non-existent.
Give up on explaining this. He was a trained terrorist. No nutjob could pull this off without training. He shot 103 people in a short amount of time. That must be at least 4 clips/mags (I'm not looking for an argument about clips or mags).
C'mon, you dont need to be a trained terrorist to shoot over 100+ people. It seems all you really need is an assault type rifle that fires a maximum amount of rounds in a minimal amount of time. Aurora, CO and Newtown, CT were neither trained terrorists, just people who want to inflict as much carnage as possible.
And no, I am not a gun hater or lover...in fact like someone else in this thread I have been around guns since i was as young as i can remember. But seriously, I dont get the people who like guns that cant realize what the hell these tools to kill people are really doing. Its just to f**king easy to get one of these guns that nobody needs and sadly AQ and ISIS have known this for years.
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How about #MuslimControlNow.
I wake up to this shit on my local news station, I live close to Orlando : Guns didn't kill all these people, it was an insane man who claimed to be from ISIS. Banning an inanimate object isn't going to stop people like this from killing. Forks don't cause obesity, it is the human hand holding the piece of metal that decides what is right and wrong, we should be focusing on trying to make sure people make the right decision and not the wrong.
Christina Grimmie was shot by a non muslim white man. School shootings have happened by white kids. Am i going to make a stupid hashtag like yours? It makes you look vile and uneducated when are you going to realise this.
His father himself said it had nothing to do with religion, the guy was mentally ill and used ISIS as an excuse to kill gay people.
yeah he seems stable too
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Another photo from his Facebook page shows Mateen wearing Army fatigues while saluting and holding a flag
And in another, he tells the camera: 'Our brothers in Waziristan, our warrior brothers in [the] Taliban movement and national Afghan Taliban are rising up.
'Inshallah the Durand Line issue will be solved soon', according to a translation by
The Washington Post.
He is also filmed expressing gratitude toward the Afghan Taliban, while denouncing the Pakistani government.
Interesting, never seen that. Sad that another extremist moron who thinks killing people is good for god. But im still not going judge all the other muslims because of these killers and i never will.
I never mentioned anything about race. I said Muslim. You can be any race and be a Muslim. This shooting was Islamic motivated and even the Muslim murderer mentioned that he pledged allegiance to Islamic terrorist groups. Also the killer was a Muslim or haven't your bothered to watch the news or read a newspaper?
His father never pulled the trigger. I don't give a f**k what he said. Look at what a fine man he raised.....
The Muslim man an who shot everyone, himself pledged allegiance to Islamic terrorist groups so get your head out of the sand and stop trying to divert attention from the truth. We can all see for ourselves without reading your nonsense posts.
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How about no?
I like my takeaways as they are thank you.
Dude was a 2nd generation Pakistani who was born and raised in America. First wife sais he was mentally ill. And numerous others said he was am angry individual to begin with. Reports have said.he didn't like the fact the he had to be nice to women to have sex with them. Sure he's not an isolated case of a f**ked mentality. But sounds like he was a ticking time bomb from the start. If.it weren't a gun he most likely would have gotten a hold.of some type of explosive and did what he was going to do that way. May I also point out this took place in a gay night club. And he hated gAys. One father said he . Was furious that he seem 2 gays kissing in front.of.his son.
Sound like the familiar repertoire of any certain group or type of person's ?
Not saying the weapon didn't play its part. But let's just keep pretending the the "gun" was the real issue here. (Rolls eyes).
Sry for anyone here if you knew someone thAt was victimized in this . Heart goes out.to ya.