Need support

Hey guys im really struggling to save money atm and was wondering if nyone has any jobs i could do to make fast cash , placing bounties etc..



I would really appreciate any offers and will be negotiable with the price.

Many thanks

Slutting is the way to go.

trade forum... just a heads up u might get some negative reactions from this as it can easily be interpreted as begging. look at my networth im not exactly rolling in the dough.. if ur desperate slut away ur e go run flowers etc..

Before I hit level 15, I made money in the following ways (keep in mind I was a true newbie to Torn so I did not have the benefit of friends willing to stake me with some funds/equipment/drugs):

- Got the goodie bag from reaching level five on Torn Lite at Facebook, and sold it.

- Bought kitten/sheep/bear plushies or beer, 100 every time I could, and sold them.

- Got a company job paying a decent amount for a newbie.

- Scoured the items market for good bargains, and then resold them at a profit.

- Spun the cheap wheel of fortune and occasionally the mid-level one, as they often threw off more valuable prizes that could be sold.

- Searched for good mug targets (low level inactives that still have a job and show a decent net worth).

- Followed the stock market to buy and sell shares, making a few hundred thousand with each transaction.

- Found opportunities to buy/sell points, typically 10-25 at a time, to make some extra cash.

Basically, short of selling losses for a couple hundred thousand each (which seemed to me to be a big waste of energy), or gambling (which obviously is very risky), there is no quick path to a bunch of money prior to reaching level 15. Your whole goal should be to reach that level so you can start flying and running plushies/flowers.

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Always a good way to secure some nice $$$$$$!!

You are too young to travel yet.. so your best bet is to use your nerve bar and energy bar as often as you can after they fill up. The sooner you get to level 15 the sooner you can fly and flower run. Please take my advice... Don't Slut! It just isn't worth it. You get no good experience from it and you might make some money but at the expense of using your energy and your energy is best used in making your stats better.

The game is about commitment and incrementalism. Small amounts add up. You don't make money at first; so just do the things that you can, without money, to begin with. Do crimes and train with natural energy/nerve as it regenerates. Also bank what little money you have for a week at a time so you can add what little you make to it each week.

^Don't listen to this guy, slutting is a waste of E and a quick fix for a deeper problem. You will find other high level players that advise lowbies to slut also, but it's usually because they want to exploit you. Just play the game how you want to and realize it's all long term and you'll never catch up to someone who's been 24/7 active in torn for 10 years, probably.

Yeah, don't slut. This is how higher-end players are keeping a new guys in the bottom of a hole. Besides, they could easily scam you and refuse to pay up (99% people here are notorious liars).

how come nearly everyone seems to agree that you shouldnt slut, but every time an actual discussion starts around it, it ends with the conclusion that slutting is actually a pretty decent way to make money (at least every time i know of)?

edit: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=3&t=16002488&b=0&a=0&start=40 just to name one example

If someone has the skills to reach self sufficiency relatively quickly without slutting it's objectively better to not.

If someone doesn't have the skills to do it then it's probably better to slut.

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If the blue non slutter dude hits the point where they can take 3 xanax a day before the slutter or slightly after it doesn't make sense for him or her to slut. The reason I say "or slightly after" is cuz of blue's natural energy spent training vs red's usage of natural energy on slutting.

The reason my graph up there only looks at xanax used for training is because you get more energy in a day from xanax than from regening so as time goes to infinity xanax energy gain will dwarf natural energy gain.

The way the numbers are looking, it looks like telling a new player to slut is a vote of no confidence in their money making skills.

Oh. I also agree with AliesterCrowley's post below mine! I didn't take that into consideration. the blue player should absolutely do this! Assuming reasonable levels of activities I'd imagine they'd be able to get up to being able to afford a few xanax a day and slut their way to the remaining the necessary xanax until they eventually don't need to spend e slutting for max xanax usage

spending 75e slutting to get 250e from xanax is bottom line best bet especially if u arent a donator. slutting. is a good idea

If you slut you may have cash but you will lose a head start for your battle stats and you most likely get the Title Loser which a lot of noobs have written me wanting to know how they can lose it...

FYI: Look at the titles in Torn Wiki and pick one and work on the description to try and change your title... Like for Tycoon get a bazaar and get a lot of bazaar sales for example...

Because it is an actual garbage way of earning money...

slutting: 25e -> 250k

Running away: 25e -> 1m

Reviving (in the right faction): 25e -> 1m

And that's just the ways using energy...

There's also flower running which easily earns you 6-7m a day, even in a faction without excursion.



So many other ways than using your valuable energy... Sure stats are a sacrifice of money, but there's damn well better ways to earn money than slutting if you insist on using your energy...

i was under the impression that you need high stats in either speed or dex to have a reasonable chance of successfully running away, so it would be pretty much impossible for new players (unless you get lucky enough to get a job in the company with the runaway special) . Was i wrong?

It also takes quite some time to reach the point of being able to revive. And then you still need a place in a fitting faction.

The thing with flower running is, that you dont have to chose between the two of them but can simply do both. You can blow off your energy bar in one minute, then start the next flight. Its even better for people who dont have the time to go online often enough to travel the whole day.



The thing with the energy is, like AliesterCrowley also said, you spend some energy but get enough profit to buy xanax which give you more energy back then you spent. I can`t see how that wouldnt be profitable (unless you already are at the point where you can afford to take the max amount of xanax a day, but if you can do that, then you already have money and most possibly ways to earn more)

amateurs

Earning Cash

Once you achieve level 15, travel abroad to purchase high demand items such as Flowers and Plushies to begin with. These are low cost items that resell in Torn for huge profit margins.

As your cash begins to build, I advise to hide your excess cash. Bookies and Ghost Trading are good examples of this (more on how to do this later).

Buying a Large Suitcase increases your carry capacity by +5 and renting a PI will add a further +10 also. Renting a PI with an airstrip will also allow you to hire a pilot. This will allow you to travel not only free of charge, but reduce your flight times too.

Depending on how often you can log in based on your real life schedule will depend on which city is most profitable for you.

If you can log into Torn every 2hrs then UK or Argentina are good places to buy Flowers/Plushies.

If you can only manage logging in every 4+hrs then there is little point staying in the UK or Argentina as you will just be sitting over there just waiting to be attacked. So for a schedule that requires more than 3hrs apart between logging in your best bet is South Africa.

Ultimately over time you will learn what works best for you and adjust accordingly.

Staying Safe

As you begin to roll in the $$$ and your networth starts to grow, you may experience more mugging attempts. So only take the cash needed to buy your items over seas and if you dont rent a PI, flights will charge you to make the trip.

Hiding your cash in the Bookies is not the most orthodox method as it isnt supposed to be used in this way. But hey... if its stupid and works... well it isnt stupid then, isnt it?

Place your cash on a bet that ends days away. This removes the cash from your pocket and the Bookies hold on to that cash. Less cash in your pocket means less cash you can be mugged for.

To retrieve the funds just cancel the bet you placed and it is returned to you. This has to be done while the bet has over 24hrs left on it. You cannot cancel bets that have less than 24hrs on them.

Ghost Trading is another popular method of hiding your hard earned cash.

Simply initiate a trade with someone. Add the cash you wish to hide to the trade itself and confirm. The cash is then held by the system until either both parties accept the trade or until the timer expires.

Dont worry about the risk of the other party accepting the trade and you losing your cash, for the trade to be complete BOTH parties need to confirm. When you need your cash simply cancel the trade and your funds will be returned seconds later.

This can ONLY be done if the person you wish to initiate the trade with has been online in the last 5 or 6 hours (correct me if I am wrong there).

Apologies this seems like a wall of text. I just wanted to make sure I explained myself thoroughly.

Welcome to Torn. Enjoy your stay. :) and Happy Trading.

Joining a 10* car dealership is piss easy, we had a few people in jux going there when they were like 30 days old, to get their runaway merits and a practically free 1b, which should be more than enough to get started... Or am I wrong?

And yes, I did say that training stats is a monetary sacrifice, but losing is so bad... No merits, barely any money, no progress towards any significant stats, I don't understand people advocating for them.

Remember you have to think about the possibility of ODing though...it's not guaranteed you'll use the xanax and get the 250e

So it's not just 3 attacks for the xanax at that point...it could potentially be the 3 attacks plus debt from the revive cost that some young players can't afford

OT:just power through to level 15 and start plushie/flower running

Well, i never tried joining a 10* car dealership since i assumed my stats would be too low to be even considered back then.

But since even the lowest position has recommended stats of 5,500 INT / 2,750 END i dont know why someone would take people with maybe 400 in each stat at most. Of course, as i already said i have zero experience in this field so if you claim its possible then it most likely is, i just dont understand it.

Then again, if its so easy to do that, why not recommending runaways instead of flower running (or, like with slutting, doing both)?



regarding merits, money and stats: merits aren`t THAT important early on, are they? Sure, its always better to have them but whether you start collecting them now or maybe in 3-5 weeks when you have money shouldnt really matter. Especially since the money helps you earn many merits faster.

Barely any money? Sure, for people who already possess hundrets of millions but you can get a similar amount as with flower running. So do slutting AND flower running and you pretty much double your income. Additionally, as i already said, it takes nearly no time so if someone is playing more casually it should help even more.

Sure, as long as you are losing, you dont train your stats but as soon as you have money you can afford xanax, the pi rent and even some e-dvds or exctacy to raise your stat gain high enough to make up for that short period where you dont train and then some.

I joined one when I had about 2k of each. I average about 50m a day (charging 1m per atk).

Taking ODs into account, I could potentially make ~300m a week if I didn't hit up the casino so often.