2B defence

Defense 2,000,080,717

at last hit 2 b . almost time to start with the boxing gloves.

Gratz!

Maybe time to balance it out a bit too? Or what are your plans from here? :o

Awesome, grats! At what point will you start with the gloves if not now?

Congratulations!

How sick is your damage reduction?

Why do YOU say almost SE time? Affordability? Are you still putting cans or fhc into defense? Are you going to leave Defense to only SEs and put energy onlu into the other 3 stats? All theae questions I am nowhere close to answering for myself, so any insight appreciated :)

Congratz, how long did it take you?

I bet it took 3667 days to get that.....

You should train your other stats and put money on them rather taking SEs on this. I dont think they are good.

what i meant is its finally worth it to use BG now i used some before but it was a waste. i should of waited

.You step into the ring at the local gym and start boxing!
You gained 6,846,911.3616 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #1
You gained 6,915,380.4752 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #2
You gained 6,984,534.2799 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #3
You gained 7,054,379.6227 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #4
You gained 7,366,336.3476 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #5
You gained 7,439,999.7111 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #6
You gained 10,899,178.6585 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #7
You gained 11,038,165.8971 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #8
You gained 11,149,651.3275 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #9
You gained 11,269,978.1303 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #10 You gained 12,112,269.6454 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #11
You gained 12,233,392.3419 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #12
You gained 12,362,421.6281 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #13
You gained 12,486,045.8444 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #14
You gained 12,610,906.3028 defence at the expense of the boxing gloves! #15
You gained 19,053,262.7057 defense at the expense of the boxing gloves!# 16

So stat enhancer are only worth it if you have 2b in the stats you want to use?

I thought it was worth switching from FHC to SE after 1.5 billion in one stat. But with new voracity update using canswhich almost matches with FHC gains it must have changed.

Voracity does not change the effectiveness of FHCs, so the old FHC vs SE comparison still holds. And yes, after 1.6b or so SE's become more cost effective than FHCs.

I meant it was based on when it is cost effective to shift from FHC to SE (Cans never came close to FHC with booster cooldown). But since cans now almost give E equivalent to FHC (with maxed voracity) at a lower cost, the figure must have changed.

If you compared Cans vs SE's, the threshold has always been higher (around 2b or more, depending what can you're using), and with Voracity it might have gone higher now as well. I haven't done the maths yet.

Was going to make a table but screw that.

Was going to include other cans but screw that.

Making assumptions. 25 and 30e cans dont exist because formatting within a forum post is annoying and can Prices are currently dumb as hell.

So. 450m is the only SE price I'll entertain for convenience, which means its worth 265 cans at 1.7m each. 265 cans are 530 trains without voracity, and 795 trains with voracity x. theres no in between because in Torn you're either Optimal or Worthless.

We're also assuming a 10E train is worth 25k stat gain. If your trains are worth more, congrats, if they're worth less, cap your stats, buy a better property, join a company, or whatever.

530 * 25k = 13.25m
795 * 25k = 19.875m

So at 1.3B SE beats 20E cans, with voracity cans 10 SE beats 20E cans at 1.99B

Roughly. This changes for 25 E gyms, 50E gyms, and stripping, But whatever. If anyone is more patient and has better data.

# cans = SE Price / Can Price (example: 450m / 1.7m)
# of trains = #cans * cans energy(20,25,30) * voracity cans multiplier(1.00, 1.05, 1.1, ... 1.45, 1.5) / energy per train (10/25/50)
Net Gain: # of trains * gain per train (ex: 530 * 25k)
If 1% of battle stat is greater than net gain, SE wins.

Woo. came here feeling helpful left feeling annoying.

Fun fact: 10% bonus from strip combined with an 8dot gym allows you to push back SE range the farthest.

Edit: worth mentioning that unless you have something to reduce cooldown like company perks, 530 cans takes like 45 days to eat and 795 is over 2 months of daily eating. So. Yeah.

Do you have any other stat over 500m even? You seem like you must be crazy unbalanced just judging from xanax taken etc, but I'm certainly no expert :)

Grats on the 2B by the way, I look forward to the day when I hit stat cap yet alone the billions.

not everyone has to go balance fs that would be heavy boring >.>



just make urself hard to beat = more time on the hill, with the right booster, invest in good armour and put ur merits into good use it can be very effective, probs join a company that gives a boost to defense and you will be difficult to beat

You really should train your other stats you know. Being a field mouse despite chewing on stat enhancers is not good strategy.

I know by looking at your profile i can squash you, you arent level holding as well are you?

I spend less than $2 million a day training and i know i can beat you. So 1 stat enhancer is about $400 million? Thats 200 days training for me and i have more power ....

you should beat him, he's only level 55.....

Its a great achievement but dunmugmeh makes a good point, he will need some form of balance if he wants to compete with players. Even speed and strength to 500m each would be sufficient.

Its all personal goals and play style though, I'm not going to judge, he may want to just whore def forever to 100's of billions which would actually be pretty cool.

Grats on the 2b OP.