Coward faction leaders

cow·ard
Ëkou(É)rd/
noun

1. 1.
   a person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.

   synonyms:

   weakling, milksop, namby-pamby, mouse; More

adjective

1. 1.
   literary
   excessively afraid of danger or pain.
2. 2.
   HERALDRY
   (of an animal) depicted with the tail between the hind legs.

Then please, if this game doesn't abide by your morals, just quit.



Thanks.

Some people do understand what the situation is. You should read everything i have said in this thread i have posted a few times in it.

It is broken beyond repair at the moment. A faction full of new low stats players is screwed at the moment and it does need fixing.

This is a case of "blame the game, not the player"

The way you come across is angry. It's been said enough times blame the mechanics of the game. Look at how old my account is vs yours. It's not too different; but I've got something you don't.

Learn more about the game and choose your forum arguments carefully. When you can argue with someone and them not attack you out of spite that means they at least respect the thought process to the argument.

It's like there is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. You call attacking noobs cowardice I call it effective. The person to blame is the one who made the mechanics not the players themselves.

Yeah Ched your worse than Canada.

Yes. You're claiming everyone are cowards. And you're wrong. You're claiming people suck dick, too. You're calling other people retards because *you* aren't smart enough to understand the game.

Basically, you're a clueless ******* saying stupid stuff over and over, which is why everyone is laughing at you.

NuffleMurda [2061882]

• Attacks won:169
• Attacks lost:18

I'm sure those were all people either with the same stats or higher. From where I sit you are a hypocrite by your own (silly) standards.

"LOL, yeah the big factions are keeping you down, grr, you can't get ahead, and it's not because you're not experienced enough to do organized crimes, it's not because you can't get territories, it's not because of the f*cked up system that makes you need fillers for extra hits, and it's not because maybe you and can't chain well... It's because the big factions are always keeping you down by declaring war, and you can't do anything about it cough Nap trade cough"

There, NuffleMurda. I gave you the attention-giving response you wanted. Happy now?

But seriously; yes, the faction system is really messed up, and it goes further than just declaring war on filler factions (refer to my thread: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#!p=threads&f=9&t=16008876&b=0&a=0&start=20) and of course it wasn't meant to be this way. But no, not all big factions are cowards too afraid to face each other. The point is, they DO, which is why they NEED your faction as filler. It goes like this;

2 big factions are in a war. They can't get too many hits on each other because they are in wars with other factions as well, so some members are in the hospital. They need extra hits, because keeping a chain alive is great for the faction. What do they do? They declare war. But they can't declare war on a faction too big, or else they'll just get more hospital time. So they find a (usually inactive) small faction so they don't have to worry about retaliation.

This is mostly what faction wars consist of. Yes, it's unfortunate for the smaller faction, and yes, it's not how the system was meant to work. But besides the factions that ONLY attack active filler factions and no one else, most big factions are actually trying hard to grow their faction and would decline war if they could.

I feel your pain; However, that doesn't mean you can just lazily call all big factions cowards and not listen to anyone's explanation given. I liked this thread, but i wished I disliked it after reading your responses. Your despicable responses are probably why you're in a lot of wars now, if you had simply requested to know why you are being declared on so much, you would know. Not to mention that this thread is in the wrong subsection.

To be honest, I'll probably declare war on your faction too, and we're not even intermediate. It's just a matter of starting so early and being so weak that you can't even hold your own against a newly started 5,000 faction without losing a severe amount of respect. And YES, the game should support new factions and give protection to them, but this game simply doesn't have that, and you have to bear with it, at least until the new chaining system comes (which I have to say, is pretty dank).

I know you're probably going to read the first paragraph of this and respond with an ironic sarcastic comment, but I just wanted to fully explain why you're in this situation. I hope your faction gets better, you work harder, and you don't say some weird stuff about b*tches in your faction description, because that's probably going to get you warred more often than not.

I am perfectly able, physically, to step outside right now, find a 4 year old girl, or a tied up chihuahua outside a supermarket, and kick the living shit out of it. I would be an absolute piece of shit coward for doing so.



Totally agree with you on this one. Only what you have described above also equates to child abuse and animal abuse. So are you really going to compare your above paragraph to the majority of players currently playing this game? I think that hits way below the belt imho.

When factions with 700,000 and 1,400,000 respect, with membership requirements like a minimum of 1,000,000 in battle stats per player, declare war on a new faction with mostly level 3-5 member, with combined total battle stats of all members of not more than maybe 300,000... is it fair to say those faction leaders are nothing but absolute cowards? Looking to make some easy earned reputation by beating on two week old players. What a bunch of losers.

Or am I missing something?

-NuffleMurda

I'm going to give this one more go, for... hopefully your benefit. You're turning into a troll. You can play this game, or you can troll, but you really can't do both. You keep replying to various responses to your original post with the idea that the only reason you created this thread was to state the fact that all of the people in the factions which are stronger than others who beat on those weaker, are cowards.

Except you also asked a question. Are you missing something? Well, you were missing something. It's been explained several times, respectfully, I might add, which seems to be more than you have earned so far in this thread. Except now your pride is in your way. You refuse to acknowledge the answer to your question, and move on.

Trolling will only get you a constant string of bounties and hospitalizations(completely outside any faction warring mechanic). I'm not sure how that's supposed to be an advantage for you, but I can assure you, you're not proving anything by acting like a buffoon, and calling people names.

I'm sorry Torn didn't turn out to be what you thought it would be. Maybe Torn isn't for you. I'll see you around, if you last the interim.

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If you can't tell the difference between beating a 4 year old kid and useing someone as a filler in a game then you are not just a piece of shit. You are also a special kind of stupid.

Me calling a large number of people in this community cowards for a very specific reason, and the more I was opposed by a much larger number of people, calling me buttercup, a bitch, stupid (yeah, it's there in black and white), I too got progressively more aggressive. Further on I was accused of being clueless, having delusions, a crybaby, passive aggressive comments and memes were flying all over the place, comments like "HOLY SHEET!! The OP is an idiot!!!" and finally "10 pages of you crying". I responded accordingly.

So thank you for the Jim Carrey meme, it is very accurate in this thread indeed.

I know me calling many of you cowards really made this thread take flight, and we all know the reason why, as explained earlier. It hit close to home. Obviously.

But is really me calling a, at the time anonymous (or at least not name dropped), small group of people cowards, reason for personal attacks? You have said it yourselves, "don't hate the player, hate the game"... so why are you playing with matches, expecting not to get burnt?

Oh, Dapper_Tramp, you are still playing this game? Other than retaliation for other factions declaring war on my faction, and the initial level 5 vs level 1-4 fights, I do not think that more than 3% or 4% has been lower levels, or even the same level as me. I have taken pleasure in beating higher levels and robbing them blind. Don't project you own insecurities on to me buddy, it's just not right.

From where you sit? The hypocrite is right there mate. Right there. Just cross your eyes and your almost looking right at him.

You're referencing level like it's some absolute moral compass for attacking. Level and combat strength are almost completely independent in Torn.

Besides that, assuming the entire point of attacking someone is to defeat them, then the only way attacking for chaining makes any sense is to intentionally attack targets you know you can beat. Target identification is one part of this, but identifying suitable "filler factions" is the other. When you consider the situation of a farm war, where we try to generate the most respect from any given measure of investment, it becomes even more significant.

Please don't act like attacking higher levels means you're somehow morally superior to anyone else playing Torn.

And as for robbing anyone? Your largest mug is $258,104, and you're robbing someone blind? What? If you focused on a competitive playstyle instead of what ever it is that your'e doing, you could be making 16 times that in a day by travel running, without attacking anyone. How cowardly would that be? It's not even in the same ballpark.

You're the one who started with personal attacks. Don't get upset because the response was antagonistic. It's most of the same people you're insulting who have taken the time to explain this to you. I'm not surprised many of them are being disrespectful in so doing. You shouldn't be either.

Is this thread still going?

A new player calls old players cowards because they don't seem to understand how chaining works. Old players get annoyed. Hundreds of posts later and the same thing is happening...

I believe the OP doesn't know how to delete a thread, either. I doubt it would surprise anyone if he doesn't.

Characterizing what OP is doing in a certain way does not make it so.

All he is doing is calling people cowards. You can debate whether or not declaring on a smaller faction makes one a coward, I see points on both sides of the debate, although as I mentioned earlier I do not think cowardice and courage are concepts that apply in wars in this browser game any more than it takes courage or cowardice to use "x" or "o" in tic-tac-toe.

However, all the people attacking OP and saying he is crying, or going on about how he does not understand the game, are either missing the point, or concede the point and are changing the subject because they don't have a good counter-argument.

I wonder why you're trying so hard to justify the fact that you declared on a babyfaction. What on earth was going on in your mind when you declared on a 5k faction? Seriously can not understand that. Don't you teach your members allways to aim as high as possible? Hitting lvl 11 and lower my goodness....that's just plain sad for a faction like yours. Game mechanics or not. No one forces you to declare on a babyfaction. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of factions out there that provide more respect and are better suited as a filler then a bunch of starters who by nature barely generate any respect.

Everyone in JFB that don't want to fight level 5's anymore and is ready for the next step please contact me, but only if you're not afraid to hit targets that are older then one month.

Ow and since he kicked everyone you're going to miss that huge bonusrespect you get from claiming on a 5k faction. That must really hurt.