ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you an Anarchist, Anarcho-Curious or are you a Statist? Feel free to share your opinion on any system you feel is best and why. Bonus points if you are in to the State and you believe in Minarchism/Limited Government Libertarian ideas.

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No rules != Anarchy.

Anarchy is against Authoritarian hierarchies, Patriarchy, Theological Religion, and any forms of oppression.

Anarchy isnt against oppression at all, its no rules... It will inevitably lead to mass oppression, the strongest will end up with all the resources and power and they will rule with an iron fist over the rest.

Anarcho-Communism or Libertarian Socialism is my alignment. No state, no money and hence, no oppression.

Under AnCom, the priority is to meet not only the needs but also the wants of the people.

As long as there is the centralization of power (State), and money (which have been brought by the state in its form now), there will always be oppression.

Every boujee, theres a hundreds of oppressed or workers producing the goods FOR him only to get back enough for the worker to continue working FOR him.

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Now on to what youve said.

Say, we give everybody bread, shelter and freedom.

All means of production are public property, everybody can grab what they need and want.

(Remember, there are tons of natural resources, Earth is for everyone. Earth was never a commodity and its natural resources never had price tags in the first place.)

Why else would they be greedy when they can get what they need and want? Why will there be a fight for power when no one is oppressing them... when everyone is free?

Bonus points if you are in to the State and you believe in Minarchism/Limited Government Libertarian.

I cant say I can totally put myself in a box but definitely want to see less government. I remember as a kid being able to raise chickens in the backyard and later on they started imposing rules to limit that stuff. Depends on what you want out of life I guess.

So then you arent for Anarchy... Cause what your describing is not Anarchy...

What your describing is honestly a fairy tale because everyone will never have all their needs met and everyone will never be on equal terms.

Edit: I find it really hilarious but has anyone ever noticed the people that actually argue for Anarchy are the people who would literally die under it. They are generally people with no jobs, no income, no skills, and no future.

That is Anarchy.

AnCom is inevitable. It will come and perhaps, not in my lifetime, but it will come... as Capitalism is in its late stage. Its decaying.

Im educated, I educate myself and at the same time, I go to school. Schooling and Educating is different, you can try it some time.

Today, many have opened their doors for Socialism. Why is that?

Yes, because the world is getting crazier.

Everything is a commodity.

Humans are no longer treated like humans but as what?

Commodity.

You are wrong to say Anarchists are not educated, unemployed and what false thoughts you have.

To name a few: Noam Chomsky (MIT Professor), Bakunin (Came from a wealthy family), etc.

I suggest you do more reading before spilling more words from your misinformed, indoctrinated mind.

Ill never understand how people are stupid enough to think that Anarchy, Communism, Socialism can ever work you can take parts of Socialism and inject them into capitalism and that will work but not much more than that.

Its not even hard to figure out why they wont work its common sense really.

None of those three things work and its not because well the purest forms of them havent been tried, or because capilist societies go to war with them, its because of human nature and nothing else. Unless human beings change or evolve to where they no longer want to compete, no longer want to be at the top, unless everyone is happy with just surviving and not furthering themselves these three systems cannot and will not work.

Anarchism is the biggest joke ive ever heard it should be labeled as a mental problem like communism

You say that like Government works. Government steals, has special rules just for them, Murders the innocent in pointless war after war, pisses away their fake currency that is nothing more than an IOU which they enslave us over, creates and groom monopolies so we have few choices and goods cost more.

People would like to evolve but Government keeps us held back at every turn. Without Government infecting children in school to crave the State and it's authority and in the end it's violence consciousness can evolve to the point that Anarchy is a certainty. Replacing Government indoctrination with with teaching proper behavior, such as peace and love and violence against others unless you are defending yourself is wrong could pave the way for a Society without rulers within one single generation.

No form of Government can be stopped from bloating to full on Tyrannical Oligarchy. I challenge you to prove that incorrect. In what reality is Tyranny from the few Elites that can get away with what ever they want preferable to any form on Anarchy?

The only reason we have Capitalism is because our masters know it is more productive and if we produce more, we Produce for them. Socialism is being pushed for because it affords Government and their Corporate masters more control over the commoners.

@Quainyum Firstly Anarchy is without Rulers and Government are rulers. My interpretation is Without Government.

Anarcho-Communism and all forms of Communism have the same problems, it needs violence to maintain. This will always lead to shortages and starvation, forced Quotas to feed the masses needs and walls with armed guards to keep people in when they figure out it sucks. Any form of communism decays into Stalinism or Moaism. If it did not than the lack of motivation will lead to shortages and the society will fail. Marxism is the same poopy flavored lollipop as the Tankies pulled. It is not sustainable even without a "real government".

Capitalism is not dying, it is Government that is infecting Capitalism. Any Problem with Capitalism can be fixed by eliminating Government.

Socialism is trendy because people are too Dumb to see see it fail over and over and over, It is trendy because the Elites can exercise more power over us with it.

Slavery predates Government, humans being a commodity is a Government problem, not a Capitalism problem these days.

Chomsky lol. The dude that praised Venezuela, hows that working out now? How about Dr. Ron Paul or John Stossel with his Princeton education.

@ Thief how do you keep a war going in Anarchy financially for any length of time without taxation? Private community Militia alone is enough to quell wanna be rulers. People fighting for their own Property will fight longer and harder than hired goons. Besides the odd gang bangers are easier to fight than a giant Government with unlimited funds and resources.

By die under what they advocate for do you mean like the many 100s and 100s of millions that have been killed by Governments?

Everyone wants to bitch about the government and capitalism, I do aswell at times, but its still far and away better than the current alternatives of anarchy, communism, or socialism.

There have been countless places throughout history and time that had no government and still did not evolve they just fall into complete chaos...

And seriously trying to teach away human behavior its been tried before... Look at all religions that claim to teach love and peace (im not talking about just christianity and islam) People teach proper behavior all the ****ing time that doesn't mean that human nature is all of a sudden going to change it wont ever, its programmed into our genes you cannot change it.

And no shit any government can become tyrannical, seriously what kind of statement is that. There is not a human on earth who does not understand that... Of course a few people can rise to power in any form of government and rule over everyone else... What makes you think anarchy would be any different I can promise you it would not...

Teach everyone love, peace, equality, and that everyone is entitled to the same resources, maybe you will get some people to go along with it. But the majority wont follow it people are always going to want more we are competitive and we always want to acquire more than others, its what drives us...

Edit: In regards to your newest post. There wont ever be an anarchy it simply wont work because people will raise to power and exploit others. You say militias are enough to quell wanna be rulers... Thats been proven wrong over and over and over and over throughout history. Eventually a dictatorship will take form in a anarchy and it will not take long at all then after enough time the dictatorship is overthrown and a democracy of some sort is put in place then it falls apart and anarchy again takes form, and the cycle begins again and again.

As I have already outlined Anarchy less a power vacuum, which is what you are quoting, is very much preferred over giant tyrannical government. All you have to talk about is calls for authority.

Human nature is to rule over others via violence, you can't objectively prove its not a learned behavior. A child mimics parents behavior they learned. It's been proven beyond any doubt that this is how kids learn. When was the last time you assaulted anyone when you weren't defending yourself? I haven't since I was a child, explain how it is human nature to kill others today when neither of us are doing it? Good luck. Religion is nothing but a government enforcing their morals on you, it's a joke on the stupid that can't figure out the scam and a bad example on your part.

I said all can and will eventually, it is the natural end of Government, complete control. You say no s*** Sherlock but yet advocate for oppression. Lol like I said all you have is calls for authority. When the majority of people become sick of murderous and monopolizing Government that claims ownership of everything and choose personal responsibility and self Governance and we start teaching love peace and a lack of violence anarchy will be achieved. As opposed to teaching kids that the State is their Mommy and Daddy and they must be homogenized and devoid of any critical thinking skills. Teaching the way we teach kids currently only serves to keep the state in power. Abolishing the state from educating children is the first step to achieving anything less than giant government.

Resources must be earned and I've never advocated differently. In a voluntary society that has grown sick of the evils of government Anything is Possible but the only thing that will stand at the end of the day is capitalism.



Proven wrong? Considering without the Militia, which was twice the size of the Continental Army, we would have never beaten the English. Secondly in a society that has given up murderous Government, how do you fund a tyrant rising to power without government taxation? If you can't even answer this simple question you can't even debate the merits of Militia, which you are very clearly wrong about.

Yes power vacuum Anarchy always leads to authoritarian governments of the worst kind but that's not what I am advocating for, you know that if you are reading what I am writing.....

I barely notice a government presence in my life, so I'm content. I just wish they chilled out on spying on people, taking land, etc

Far as all goverments. People should be free enough to criticize their government, and not get locked up or killed. Country's like that blow my mind.

I stumbled on this while ago...WHOS UP FOR SOME HUEL!!

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This sure does remind me alot of Capitalism...

Lol Jesus Christ... Still people are stupid enough to believe all it takes is for government to end and for love and peace to be taught...

Sounds great, seems like a real dream scenario... unfortunately you cannot change what human beings are... Keep calling for humans to evolve and teach peace and love, its been taught before lmfao, humans are thousands of years old there has never been a society that was even close to peaceful...

Its alot more oppression....

I just want people to look at any of the countless times that Civilization/government/power structures have broke down in areas all over the world areas that were pretty peaceful before turn into absolute nightmares...

It amazes me that people still advocate for Anarchy, they have no idea what it would bring...

It is worth Looking into. I consider the Indians anarchist and look what happens to them. Someone came along and took everything.