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Hilgar vs Rise Above

Started by Champion [1927067] on in Faction Discussion.

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Tolshortte [648554]

make no mistake, Kata has played her part in this little Drama.

its unlikely people get this upset for no reason.  

that said, I will not have people threaten me with no regard to me or my other members because of some social media drama.  if my members are behaving in a way that is detrimental to RA within Torn I will address it.  I do not however consider discord as a part of torn.  people go there for unmoderated content for a reason.  that unmoderated drama should stay there.

Hilde has told my members I have chosen Kata over them because he and his group fail to grasp the concept that I have chosen to stay out of their little drama fest.  Kata is judged and evaluated like any member of my faction based on their effort and contributions.  I don't have this personal investment they seem to have in Torn.  Only two people in Torn has my irl phone number and Kata isn't one of them.  this attachment they think I have to kata is imaginary like half the time they think she is somehow referring to them in some super secret hidden agenda way.

Kata hasn't escalated this they have.

Kata hasn't personally attacked them to me in any way, they have personally insulted and attacked Kata.

Kata hasn't attempted to sway my opinion in her favor, they have.

from where I sit the biggest perpetuators of this drama isn't Kata.  some people should learn to let shit go.
Kayla [2031661]

Hilde sure loves his manhunts. I don't doubt he'll go through with it, and I knowing him, he probably isn't going to back down. We saw it with that person who kicked him at a poker table, and then Buston after that. When he's out for blood he means business. The man has more than enough time and money to see it through, although I don't think he's ever tried to take on a whole faction before. 

At least it does add some spice a lot of peoples gameplay. I bet Hilde and Kata are gonna have a good bit of fun with this. I feel bad for the innocent RA members that are being dragged into this though.

Either way, It's going to be really interesting to watch this unfold.
Cheque [1962848]

No one has been dragged in, our members have loyalties and morals and it has been discussed, it's just normal for us over here at RA to have our pals back regardless. And we will continue to do so. 
Tolshortte [648554]

they don't know I sent out a newsletter addressing the situation before it happened.  that I offered to relocate our members if they so desired.  that my stance on the matter was stated clearly.  that I have no problem with anyone who wanted to avoid this drama.

they apparently don't know me or how I hold your well being and enjoyment above my own.  
Wylie [1564652]

Too bad this is not public.... oh well arrogance, stupidity and stubbornness ftw, ON ALL PARTIES!!!! You too kata!!! Still heart ur face tho!  #higschooledisovergrowup #hashtag
Kayla [2031661]

The matter mainly concerns Kata and Hildegarde, and RA's leaders. The members, who did nothing wrong, were not involved, and have no part in the dispute between them. Whether they wanted to be a part of it or not are now a part of it by Hildegarde attacking them. I would call that them being dragged into it.

That said, if all your members are happy to be a part of it, then more power to you. Should be a lot of fun for everyone! Though I do suspect a few people will want out. Hildegarde isn't known for being gentle
Flak [2091491]

Message was read by intended persons, The downvotes are appreciated, ty for your support.

Will defo be doing a reverse karma vote again. It was fun x



Oh no... He isn't doing what i want, even though she upset me :(I should definitely use my money to make life difficult for absolutely anyone involved... yes..I will attempt to effect them enough emotionally to make them all feel guilty about how hard the evil lady has made their gaming experience.... They may quit, they may be upset... but they will clearly all blame their leader and the mean evil lady....There is absolutely no way that this will reflect badly on me or affect my reputation in any way, After all it is her fault entirely and i am completely justified to lash out at anyone with my eyes closed without explaining or showing reasons as to why the random people who aren't really involved deserve this..... I am rich and popular enough and so this is my right.....(I'm doings an impersonations.... anyone wanna guess who?)I reckon yeah..... (this is me talking now) that if you are angry with Kata, you should attack kata, if that doesn't work... attack kata more... if that also doesn't work, Maybe just save your cash and leave the poor noobs alone? 

1 Downvote = 1 Hell Yeah, Nice impersonation, I agree Martyr

1 Upvote      = He is perfectly justified to do these things to all those players....


Cheque [1962848]

As said, It's been discussed. Everyone is aware and has been for a while. 

As for the gentle comment ... LOL