Hilgar vs Rise Above

9 pages later and no one told me to get popcorn. I feel cheated, tired, and slightly aroused.

This thread went deeper into drama than the titanic on her last voyage. Unsurprising given the subjects, I guess.

why is everybody so upset? It’s just a game.

Behave yourselves.

I think we all know that's most likely not going to happen. This is Torn after all.

Sucking your dick? lol pls, you been my biggest fan since day 0:

Hildegarde: Everyone knows Champion created the world in 2 days, shot it down with his Golden AK and re-created it in 3 more days

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WIB -

So.  Here we are.  How do I even start this?  How far back do I go?

Everything is just so… complicated.  How about I'll start with what I would like to see happen:

What I want is for you to leave myself and my faction alone.

That doesn't mean leave me alone until I do something unrelated to you that you don't like.

That doesn't mean leave me alone until I talk to someone you don't want me talking to.

That doesn't mean leave me alone until I report something relevant on TCN that has to do with you or someone you know.  (I can refrain from making a negative comment about you on the show...  In fact, I don't think I've said anything negative about you on there so far.)

Personally, I'd prefer if you'd just think of me as being dead.

I no longer exist in the world to you.

If I see you in public places I will not acknowledge you even exist - as long as you afford me the same courtesy.

I tried back in April to resolve this.

2018-04-12 - 12:01:57 AM
Kata says:

Bella -



This is my last ditch effort to stop this stupidness.  Im not trying to get you -on my side- or against [wib] or anything.  I know thats not possible - and even if it was - I wouldnt want to anyway.  I know how close you and [wib] are and I completely respect that.



Im just sick of hearing things that Ive -done- and constantly reading crappy things that have been said about me... especially without a reason as far as I can tell.  So I was hoping to tell my side of whats happening and see if I can get some answers.



First I wanted to say that me being mad at Tyler (and blocking him for like 7 hours) wasnt anybodys business but his and mine - so Im going to assume that doesnt have anything to do with anything, because Im assuming were all mature enough to recognize that fact.



The next thing was me making comments in global chat on the off chance he was watching to try to annoy him.  I can only imagine thats what [wib] was talking about when she said I was trying to get her attention in global - which I wasnt - I was trying to get Tylers.  Her being upset about it wasnt even a thought that crossed my mind at that point. Otherwise I have no idea what shes talking about.



What I put on my profile the night before Easter wasnt meant for her.  That was also meant for Tyler. I was (in my opinion) understandably pissed off at him and wanted him to take down a picture he had up if he wasnt going to talk to me anymore.  Since [wib] showed up in global shortly after all pissed off, Im assuming she thought it was directed towards her - which upon rereading and thinking about it in that way - I could see why she would.  But it was not.



If she did realize it was about Tyler and was still pissed off, well, thats really her own problem because it wasnt any of her business.



The picture about cutting a toxic person out of my life wasnt about her either - although she seemed to imply it was in the forums.  That was about Nath. I cut NATH out of my life - NATH spreads crazy shit about me all of the time, because hes crazy. As Im sure you are well aware.  Although I had just recently put it on my sig, the picture itself has been in my pictures since all of the Nath/Phantom stuff was going on. (Although Nath never really stopped with it)



As far as I remember, I didnt start anything in global or anywhere else (until the post in the fan club thread, but Ill get to that later) but if you can prove me wrong, please be my guest.  Everything I recall saying to [wib] in global was in response to something rude she said to or about me - and was usually me just asking what I did.



Then she started bountying and killing me.



So then, yes, I had people I knew she didnt like claim bounties on purpose.  So, that I did do. Because I was annoyed - and I think understandably so at that point in time.  She was talking shit about me in global (I also had someone mail me a comment about me from another server), bountying me and sitting on me.  So I asked KK to claim some bounties. Then a friend of mine needed bounties for a mission, but when he tried to claim them - she kept killing me before he could claim.  So I asked Vern to hold her in an attack so my friend could claim the bounties. Which is when she messaged him to call him a white knight and had mug bounty him.



After that, I had Nash claim some bounties (because I know they dont get along either) and I think Warlock did some in there too somewhere.  But same thing was happening with Nash - that she was killing me before Nash could claim, so I asked Hill to hold her which he kind of failed at anyway.



Those are literally the only two times I asked anybody to hit [wib].



I was also told that I hired BodyBagger to hit [wib] - which is entirely untrue.  Im pretty sure I never even talked to Bodybagger before I messaged him the other day to get screenshots of him saying that I DID NOT hire him to hit ANYBODY.  Which I do have. And youre also welcome to ask him yourself.



A friend of mine revived me a bunch of times the one day - but I dont see how thats me doing anything to [wib].  Besides causing her to waste more money if she wanted to keep me bountied. She also had people killing my friend that was doing the reviving - Tyler included apparently (one didnt stealth).



I know that she had mentioned the guesting thing at one point - which Im pretty sure I apologized for upsetting her about that at the time.  But I am still a bit surprised it upset her that much, because we had talked about Nath watching her profile to see when she went to Vulpes to guest multiple times.  In pm and in her server - I believe she was actually the one to point out that that was probably what was happening and actually said she was sorry that she didnt think of that at the time.  I didnt think she would be upset that I didnt want her to guest because of Nath - it had nothing to do with me wanting her there or not. Shes a great chainer when someone in Vulpes faction chat had said something about it not being a good idea to let her in 39th because shes a drama queen - I pointed out that shes a great person to have in a faction helping you.  I also wanted her to come to Vulpes if she didnt go to 39th - so I obviously wanted her to guest, it was all just about Nath watching her profile.



Then there was the KK/JFA thing.  As much as I appreciate that [wib] likes to stand up for people, I didnt want her to or ask her to leave JFA over it.  I believe I said not to in pm. Him attacking the chain was annoying, but it was fine - the chain didnt break. That whole situation reminds me of when Phantom went against JFA because of my bachelorette contest and then got mad at me for it later - when I didnt want him to do it in the first place.



At one point I accidentally said something in global when I was drunk that Nath told her.  He got mad at her and I felt really bad about it and apologized.



In none of those three situations (guesting/KK/Nath) was I trying to intentionally hurt her.



Somewhere in there was the meme [wib] made and Chit getting kicked from her server.  Which the meme is whatever. At this point the stuff with mat doesnt really even bother me anymore, its been used so much.  But it was still rather disappointing to see her trying to use it against me.



And then there was also her threatening in the JFA server to share pictures Id sent Nath - which was completely unprovoked by me.  Which I posted on the Fan Club thread.



The fan club thread was basically my breaking point - yes I did call her out on it - I was trying to get her to explain to me what was going on.  All Im getting from people is that I -threw her under the bus- or -used others to antagonize her- or that Im -talking shit-. None of which actually says anything...What did I do to -throw her under the bus-?  What was it that I did to -use others to antagonize her-? Where, to whom, and when was I talking shit?



Was the -throwing her under the bus- when she decided to leave JFA because of KK, me saying something in global, and the guesting thing?  This seems a bit too crazy to be about that stuff, but maybe it is, I dont even know anymore.



And, yes, Im asking about specific examples, because I honestly dont know.  I dont remember saying anything outright mean about her to anyone.



Back to the Fan Club thread though - I was trying my hardest not to insult her, but to only criticize her actions against me.  Instead of giving me a straight answer, she just blocked my posts.



Putting her on my profile was petty, yes, but at this point Im fine with it - because Im pretty damn annoyed.  Especially after the threatening to share my pics thing - after all of that crap with Phantom threatening to share DPs pics and her being so upset about it.



Like I said, I just want to end this stupidity before it goes any further.  In my opinion, most of it has been caused by lack of communication and misunderstandings.  I want to know exactly what I did to cause all of this hate from her - I think I deserve an explanation.  Especially since this is pretty much the third time Ive ended up in a situation like this with her. And Im not trying to mend fences and be friends or anything - I think Ive had it beaten into my head that thats a terrible idea at this point.



Maybe Im wrong, but I dont think giving me reasons for the bounties/shit-talking/killing, etc is taking sides on anything.



I appreciate you taking the time to read it and allowing me to share my side of whats been going on.  I really do hope that [wib] and I can at least reach a point where we can be civil with each other.

-Kata



And here was Bella’s response:

Re: ...2018-04-12 - 8:58:54 PM
BelladonnaB says:

i can't get involved in this as she has you blocked and the things you are asking for need to come from her. In my opinion this is a workaround her block on you.

Then a pm from tiller warning me about bypassing block.

Leafeh tried to put us in the same discord room to resolve this, but you left saying you didn't want to talk to me.

I asked over and over and over what I've done.

You keep making accusations without anything to back them up or giving vague answers.  You seem to think every move I make is about you.

Well guess what, cupcake.  Not everything is about you.

I think I’ve been pretty composed considering the things I've read on discord that you've said about me or what I've read in global logs.  Or what you've said while I was there in global.  

Please feel free to share examples of me insulting you if you feel differently.  Cause I sure can go back and find where you threatened to post my pictures from nath, or where you commented over and over calling me a whore in various forms or where you and phantom made comments on whether or not I was still seeing my psychologist.

I can post the logs of you killing me over and over or the two+ months worth of bounties that only ended about a month and a half or so ago.

But you’ve obviously left me alone for months now, right?

How about when we first started RA and you started killing our new members until you had me apologize publicly (for not being grateful enough when you stood up to kk and for not wanting you to guest in Vulpes) and take down the screenshots from the JFA server of when you threatened me with the pictures?  Or when you participated in Tyler's quest to take all of RAs territories?

 

https://www.torn.com/war.php?step=warreport&warID=2958

 

https://www.torn.com/war.php?step=warreport&warID=2980

 

https://www.torn.com/war.php?step=warreport&warID=2979



Those were good times.

Glad you were leaving me alone.  I'd hate to see what you think bugging someone looks like.

Or how about more recently passing on a message to me that I can't talk to Tyler and then bountying me? Lol.

Speaking of, let's call a spade a spade here and admit that a big chunk of this shit storm has revolved around Tyler and how you didn't like that him and I were friends since you had a thing for him. 

I mean, I can at least half understand all of the crazy bullshit you've been doing if that's the reason…

Or maybe you just are that crazy and there isn't anything further to look into - maybe I'm just trying to rationalize your behavior.

Also, when in the hell did I say I wanted to be like Trish?  People have been calling me Trish to insult me for ages, knowing full well how much I dislike her.  

You got one thing right though, I don’t have any issue admitting to enjoying attention - otherwise I wouldn't make threads or do the show.  

And you're making it sound like I personally insulted your dead grandma... while saying you look like someone took a hammer to your face... when I was drunk in global a week or so ago.  All I did was post the link to the Kanye gold digger video.  

Weren't you the one that gave Dude your hammers when he made the thread about you being a gold digger, because it was sooooo funny? (Lol on asking for them back btw, that's “rich” - Hey, kind of like you now that you have “your’s” and hilde’s money.) And didn't you then change your name to show how much it totally didn't bother you?

Or was that someone else?

Because apparently me posting that video was enough to send you and hilde over the deep end.

Please, if you would, keep your narcissistic ass away from me and my faction.

My threads aren't about you.

I don't give a flying f**k who you are or aren't sending pictures to.

So go find someone else to fulfill your drama fetish.  I'm sick of being the one you flick your bean over.

Good luck and good f**king riddance.

Have a great life,

Kata


(Tols, you said I could... Also, this one came out a lot angrier than the Hilde one.)

This post is longer than all of rino's posts combined.

After reading katas novel

It's obvious to me, wib aka wir aka Trish 2.0 

Might be a bit crazy

Please be fair, it wasn't a novel.



It was a trilogy. 

sometimes you need to say what you need to say.

Kata is the only member where my requests were more than just a request.  ive asked her to not say or do things I didn't even feel comfortable asking tbh.  but for the benefit of her and the faction felt it was appropriate to do so.  

now the shitstorm has started.  all of those requests now seem pointless.  she may as well get it out. 

hopefully those two can get into a channel and go at each other enough they can just through it.  as silly as all of this seems, I get the impression both care a great deal about each other even if neither will admit it.

Last edited by Stretch on 03:43:36 - 03/07/18

Really Streatch? 

Apparently I don`t have f*** you money, because I get warning to posting gif, with nore: What point having f*** you money, if you never say f*** you :D

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Edit:

I just used this char name :D (it seems use this word for name is normal, but use this word in gif is not :D)

https://www.torn.com/profiles.php?XID=2127100#/

I used to think Hilde was awesome but the more I hear about him the more he sounds like a little bitch

A pentology to be more precise

Say that agian.... But slower and a little louder please 

It's actually pretty straight-forward...Don't circumvent the filter with images/gifs. Don't know why this merits you spazzing out.

Pretty much sums up what a lot of people are thinking now.

Myself included.

[image: media2.giphy.com]Kata typing her post.

SharpSharkey5: Hey christen
Wild_Irish_Rich: What do you need Sharpmid
SharpSharkey5: I'm reading this thread and I don't get what all the fuzz is about
Wild_Irish_Rich: I'm not. Bye
 

The hell is goin on in this thread?
No offense