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Thief [206758]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-has-uncovered-no-direct-evidence-conspiracy-between-trump-campaign-n970536 

First paragraph:
WASHINGTON — After two years and 200 interviews, the Senate Intelligence Committee is approaching the end of its investigation into the 2016 election, having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia, according to both Democrats and Republicans on the committee.


In case you missed it, both democrats and republicans.... I would have never guessed lol.

 
PurpPurp [1990116]

so trump isnt dirty, but everyone in the government balls deep with russian ties. atleast the investigation rooted out a few bad apples i guess.

im excited to hear about how putin has been ****ing with the us in the official report. 
Limpd [789073]

Waste  of tax payer money ...BUT they aren't going to divulge what they found until reelection time they used tax payer money and this investigation to find anything any direction on trump and it will come out once the reelection process comes such dirty work by the dems they always know how to use other peoples money for themselves
Thief [206758]

I feel like if you investigated everyone in washington atleast half would prolly get indicted for something so saying everyone around him is dirty isnt really accurate just like half of washington is dirty.

And i doubt it will say anything more than what we already know they most likly hacked the DNC and they tried to sway votes on facebook and social media but again if youre voting because of something on social media you shouldnt be voting at all
Sagramor [1908287]

Republicans were saying the same thing last year, they disagreed along party lines and they provided no evidence or timeline to suggest a "report" was imminent. In fact, Burr is basically confounding the issue by starting the statement off by saying that there is an ongoing investigation about a conspiracy (a crime) and then goes on to talk at length about collusion (not a crime).

There's no revelations here, particularly given that Burr and Warren would require some kind of written notice from SCO to that effect.
Thief [206758]

"Don’t conflate collusion, which occured, with criminal conspiracy."

I guess this moron missed where both parties said they found no evidence of it. So one investigation down how long before mueller throws in the towel aswell, because guess what there still is nothing there.
PurpPurp [1990116]

the article you posted said no direct evidence. so we know trump wasn't in on it directly. 

whole thing is dumb as shit tho. the investigation been about if the election was legit or not. ofc it was. should really be about who is working for foreign governments at this point.
Honey-Badger [50716]

Just about all the people indicted were for “lying to the FBI” about irrelevant shit that had nothing to do with Russia or collusion.  That is why lawyers say don’t talk to them unless you are forced too. If you miss remember or have personal details you don’t want out or embarrassed about an lie they can then bust you.

 

nore important question is why was there never an investigation into Obama using the irs to target his political oppositions donors? 

 

Why was there no investigation into hillary for server and Benghazi? What about Clinton’s and sale of nuclear material and money getting put into their foundation? What about Obama seeing emails from hillary that were not from .gov so he New she was using non govt emails!  

 

The list cN go on forever. This is all one sided as medi is propaganda for left. Look at northingham in VA, if it was a republican he would of been forced out next day....just like the republican hi. Fl who did blackface and resigned next day, but because that POS is dem he gets to stay? Lmao
Honey-Badger [50716]

So what ever happened to that investigation with Obama who was caught on Mic telling Putin to hold off because he is up for re election but the. When he gets re elected he will have more flexibility to help him out.....that’s not colluding with Putin and russia? 
Limpd [789073]

Hillary was involved with collusion also and having sensitive information on a laptop using an unsecure email but they didn't do crap remember dems are immune to news criticism and legal action just look at the Haiti incident with the Clinton foundation and uranium one deal 
Sagramor [1908287]

Did you even bother to read the rest of the article?

2nd paragraph: "But investigators disagree along party lines"

4th paragraph:"Burr was careful to note that more facts may yet be uncovered....."

7th paragraph:Sen. Mark Warner, D.-Va., ranking member of the committee, told reporters in the Capitol Tuesday that he disagrees with the way Burr characterized the evidence about collusion"

Later:

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"Donald Trump Jr. made clear in his messages that he was willing to accept help from the Russians," one Democratic Senate investigator said. "Trump publicly urged the Russians to find Clinton's missing emails."

Those facts are beyond dispute. But they also have been known for some time — and have not seemed to change Trump's political standing.'

"Democrats and other Trump opponents have long believed that special counsel Robert Mueller and Congressional investigators would unearth new and more explosive evidence of Trump campaign coordination with Russians. Mueller may yet do so, although Justice Department and Congressional sources say they believe that he, too, is close to wrapping up his investigation."

"House Republicans announced last year they had found no evidence of collusion, but their report came under immediate criticism as a highly partisan product that excluded Democrats. Now in power, House Democrats recently announced an expanded probe that will go beyond the 2016 election to examine whether any foreign government has undue financial influence on Trump or his family. And New York federal prosecutors are pursuing their own criminal inquiry related to hush-money payments to women. The investigations into Donald Trump, therefore, are far from over."

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Sagramor [1908287]

Lying to the fbi and lying to Congress is typically done by people (within this or similar political context) who think a pardon is in the works. It's what is done to avoid further incriminating themselves.
Sagramor [1908287]

Ivanka and Jared are also doing this exact same thing. Ivanka even claimed she had no idea it was wrong to do so. Jared's possibly going to again lose his security clearance since he's still full of shit. If you're going to blame one side for doing one thing, then you have to blame the other side for the same thing.
Sagramor [1908287]

Obama would have been able to do so given he was still President at the time he made those statements. Problem with Trump is that he was trying to wheel and deal on foreign policy (sanctions) when he was a candidate and when he was president-elect but hadn't been sworn in. There's a significant constitutional issue with having two POTUS's (one acting) trying to conduct their own foreign policy.