No Valid Target During Raid

Posted this earlier in Q&A, but someone suggested should post as a possible bug as well.

We were being raided by a single fella with stats far too high for any of our faction members to do anything about, but he's been fedded for multiple account abuse. Meaning there is no valid target (I was intending to get a guest/merc to come in and whittle it away so we could end the raid, but that can't be done without a target).

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Does the raid just sit in limbo while the guy serves his time, since we can't do anything about it? Is this the intended game mechanic?

Passing to Chedburn to see if it's intended, or if it requires changing.

Thanks, Stewie.

Seems like the game mechanics involving raids are a bit broken in the first place. This guy raided us with one faction on Sunday. We were able to win and cease the raid on Tuesday. Then, he left that faction and started a new faction and was able to resume raiding against us via the new faction. Though, of course, without the other low-level folks he had in his first/main faction, we had very little option available. It seems like it is really inadvertently catered to benefit small factions with big guns, since they will have far more targets to choose from and make far more hits, whereas the defending faction can do very little to catch up since they have only a single target to choose from.

And, of course, the situation is compounded in a case like this, where the defending faction does not have a viable target whatsoever because the only player opposing can't be attacked.

While I agree there should be minimum hits between factions or the raid is ended, I think raiding needs several other changes to complement this.

I didn't fully appreciate it when carenza made his ranting threads a few months ago, but I've experienced it first-hand several times myself now. Currently if a faction is raided, the most valid tactic is to kick everyone instantly, mount a come-back 24hrs later and cease the raid. Which effectively makes the whole warring type pretty silly.

This is exacerbated if there is also a time-out clause. It might at first seem ridiculous for a faction to have a mass exodus for 72hrs, but it's honestly a small price to pay given how costly an effect a raid can have. Any faction I know with some sense would happily do it once every 3 months to save themselves a lot of respect-lost and/or energy-used to recover a winning position in a raid.

Maybe it makes sense to do something like -- if the losing faction submits a Surrender Request, it halts the raid until the raiding faction either declines or accepts the surrender. This forces the raiding faction to respond to the surrender.

If the winning faction does not respond to the surrender within 72 hours, the raid is ceased. That solves issues like this one we are facing.

If a surrender request is declined, the 24h timer to cease/surrender is reset. That stops the losing faction from abusing it and halting progress.