They tested 6 short-range ballistic missiles. Who agrees with me that the only way they give up their nukes is by us doing it for them? Seriously, as horrible as it is, I think war is going to be inevitable. Thoughts?
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USA used nukes to end WW2? Is that really the information you are exposed to and believe? This action was NEVER a "global victory"… it was a global disaster to anyone but the US government, the victory part is all … - CatHead [1581564]
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I think I'd have the same opinion regardless of where I live. I'm not at all anti-democracy (perhaps you've forgotten my views, not been here for a while) but I just get a little taste of vomit in my mouth … - CatHead [1581564]
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Who will take America’s nukes? They’re the only country that has used them before and I think most people in the world would agree they’re the biggest risk for using them again.
Nope they dont war and neither do we ,
He just misses Trump. Pompeo is a moron, and and Kimmy is savvy enough to know this.
Why should they give them up?
This is why no other POTUS would give him the time of day ... NK had to straighten up BEFORE they were given anything .....
There's no putting the genie back in the bottle, KJU is well emboldened now that he's on the global stage and not below it. That entire area of topic is a minefield for Trump now, no matter which way he steps he's got one underfoot. Now he's either going to have to be the one to take war to Kim in contrast to his accusations about Obama and NK war; or else he's going to have to goad Kim into starting one that the rest of the world accepts -- and certainly two days inside of a week of tossing missiles is a step in that direction.
There's no putting the genie back in the bottle, KJU is well emboldened now that he's on the global stage and not below it. That entire area of topic is a minefield for Trump now, no matter which way he steps he's got one underfoot. Now he's either going to have to be the one to take war to Kim in contrast to his accusations about Obama and NK war; or else he's going to have to goad Kim into starting one that the rest of the world accepts -- and certainly two days inside of a week of tossing missiles is a step in that direction.
You are kinda slow right , Trump has no interest in a war with north korea he wants to make a deal but unlike Obama who bent over for Iran Trump doesnt play that way.
Let not forget Obama trying to bribe north korea with food aid either and yeah that worked well :P
The Obama administration has announced a new nuclear agreement with North Korea under its new supreme leader, Kim Jong-un. The administration says that North Korea has agreed to a moratorium on nuclear-weapons and missile-delivery activities at Yongbyon, one of North Korea’s known nuclear-weapons-related facilities, in exchange for the U.S. agreeing to provide food aid. The announced bargain is worse than bad.
Wholly apart from the fact that North Korea has dishonored each and every non-proliferation agreement it has made over the years and can be expected not to comply with this agreement as well, its promise to suspend already-illegal activities in one location leaves it completely free to continue them elsewhere. Making a single-site moratorium on North Korea’s nuclear misconduct the central feature of an agreement is astonishingly foolish, even for an administration like President Obama’s that is naturally supine in foreign affairs.
The U.S. promise to supply North Korea with 240,000 metric tons of food aid as part of the bargain also is more than suspect. Wholly apart from whether North Korea needs food aid it would be able to buy food on the world market if it redirected the money it uses for its national nuclear-weapons and missile programs virtually all international food aid it previously has received has been diverted from the intended beneficiaries to the purposes of the North Korean elites and military.
China, South Korea, the U.S., and Japan have been the four biggest contributors of food aid to North Korea, accounting for over 75% of the total donations since 1995. South Korean President Kim Dae Jung initiated the ““Sunshine Policy”” in 1998 to soften the belligerent attitude of North Korea by providing economic support. For China, it is in the interest of its national security to prevent its communist neighbor from collapsing as North Korea acts as a buffer zone between the US-backed South Korea and China. Such relationship is reportedly depicted by Mao Zedong as “being as close as lips and teeth.” According to the Congressional Research Service, between 1995 and 2008, the United States provided North Korea with over $1.3 billion in assistance
Let not forget Obama trying to bribe north korea with food aid either and yeah that worked well :P
The Obama administration has announced a new nuclear agreement with North Korea under its new supreme leader, Kim Jong-un. The administration says that North Korea has agreed to a moratorium on nuclear-weapons and missile-delivery activities at Yongbyon, one of North Korea’s known nuclear-weapons-related facilities, in exchange for the U.S. agreeing to provide food aid. The announced bargain is worse than bad.
Wholly apart from the fact that North Korea has dishonored each and every non-proliferation agreement it has made over the years and can be expected not to comply with this agreement as well, its promise to suspend already-illegal activities in one location leaves it completely free to continue them elsewhere. Making a single-site moratorium on North Korea’s nuclear misconduct the central feature of an agreement is astonishingly foolish, even for an administration like President Obama’s that is naturally supine in foreign affairs.
The U.S. promise to supply North Korea with 240,000 metric tons of food aid as part of the bargain also is more than suspect. Wholly apart from whether North Korea needs food aid it would be able to buy food on the world market if it redirected the money it uses for its national nuclear-weapons and missile programs virtually all international food aid it previously has received has been diverted from the intended beneficiaries to the purposes of the North Korean elites and military.
China, South Korea, the U.S., and Japan have been the four biggest contributors of food aid to North Korea, accounting for over 75% of the total donations since 1995. South Korean President Kim Dae Jung initiated the ““Sunshine Policy”” in 1998 to soften the belligerent attitude of North Korea by providing economic support. For China, it is in the interest of its national security to prevent its communist neighbor from collapsing as North Korea acts as a buffer zone between the US-backed South Korea and China. Such relationship is reportedly depicted by Mao Zedong as “being as close as lips and teeth.” According to the Congressional Research Service, between 1995 and 2008, the United States provided North Korea with over $1.3 billion in assistance
Who will take America’s nukes? They’re the only country that has used them before and I think most people in the world would agree they’re the biggest risk for using them again.
Read 1984 by George Orwell.
In it there is a war, without any territorial gain. Resources are used for this war which the slowly starving population work hard to produce.
Every now and then there is some breakthrough and people are happy. The gain can be diplomatic with a new alliance formed or a ceasefire agreed or better yet a truce!
Until it is broken! Oh no!
Time to knuckle down brothers and sisters we have a war to win!
And repeat... regularly.
Same as north Korea and USA.
In it there is a war, without any territorial gain. Resources are used for this war which the slowly starving population work hard to produce.
Every now and then there is some breakthrough and people are happy. The gain can be diplomatic with a new alliance formed or a ceasefire agreed or better yet a truce!
Until it is broken! Oh no!
Time to knuckle down brothers and sisters we have a war to win!
And repeat... regularly.
Same as north Korea and USA.
I didn't say anything about Trump being interested in a war. Maybe you should slow down a little? Smell the roses, read the words.
I said he's pretty much backed himself into a corner where it's basically the only option now to remove North Korea's nukes.
Interested or not, his mouth put him where he is.
I said he's pretty much backed himself into a corner where it's basically the only option now to remove North Korea's nukes.
Interested or not, his mouth put him where he is.
Just butting in, how would Trump remove north Korea nukes?
Force. But it'd be a bloodbath for South Korea and probably many more. I wouldn't see many countries supporting it either.
I'm not at all advocating it, looking forward to it, wanting it, anticipating it and would love to be wrong ........ I just no longer, now that NK has been elevated so much by Trump, see any path to a peaceful resolution -- short of the US withdrawing 100% from the peninsula.
Heavy sanctions [and actually enforcing them] and keeping Kim at the children's table would have been best.
I'm not at all advocating it, looking forward to it, wanting it, anticipating it and would love to be wrong ........ I just no longer, now that NK has been elevated so much by Trump, see any path to a peaceful resolution -- short of the US withdrawing 100% from the peninsula.
Heavy sanctions [and actually enforcing them] and keeping Kim at the children's table would have been best.
No he hasn't hes putting pressure on them and they know it and the goal has always been to remove the nukes peacefully
Force....a wonderful word.
Even before nk had nukes taking them by force would be extremely difficult.
Tanks and infantry would be seriously clogged up by their defences.
Add into the huge backlash on us home front ( something USA are unfamiliar with ) sleepers not just from nk but anybody with an interest to nk current trades and not wanting the USA to expand influence.
Even before nk had nukes taking them by force would be extremely difficult.
Tanks and infantry would be seriously clogged up by their defences.
Add into the huge backlash on us home front ( something USA are unfamiliar with ) sleepers not just from nk but anybody with an interest to nk current trades and not wanting the USA to expand influence.
I do agree. It would be disastrous in every imaginable way.
"I'm not at all advocating it, looking forward to it, wanting it, anticipating it and would love to be wrong"
"I'm not at all advocating it, looking forward to it, wanting it, anticipating it and would love to be wrong"
Kinda dont see a invasion happening from americas they have less then 24k troops there and to invade iraq they spend months moving forces into the region and I think the north might kinda notice a similar build up
In September, the Koreas’ militaries agreed at a leaders’ summit in Pyongyang to eventually dismantle all guard posts inside the 248-kilometre (155-mile) -long, 4-kilometre (2.5-mile) -wide border. They later withdrew weapons and troops from 11 of their guard posts and decided to completely dismantle 10 of them by the end of November.
Seoul’s Defence Ministry said it confirmed the dismantling of 10 North Korean guard posts on Tuesday. It said North Korean soldiers had used hammers to tear down parts of the guard posts ahead of Tuesday’s near-simultaneous demolitions. A ministry statement said North Korea had informed the South of its plans in advance.
Under the September agreements, the Koreas have also taken steps to disarm the shared border village of Panmunjom, halted live-fire drills along the border and have been removing mines at a front-line area to conduct their first joint searches for Korean War dead.
Relations between the Koreas have improved since North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reached out to South Korea and the United States early this year with a vague promise to achieve the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. U.S.-North Korea talks on the North’s nuclear program haven’t produced much progress since Kim and U.S. President Donald Trump held the countries’ first summit in Singapore in June.
In September, the Koreas’ militaries agreed at a leaders’ summit in Pyongyang to eventually dismantle all guard posts inside the 248-kilometre (155-mile) -long, 4-kilometre (2.5-mile) -wide border. They later withdrew weapons and troops from 11 of their guard posts and decided to completely dismantle 10 of them by the end of November.
Seoul’s Defence Ministry said it confirmed the dismantling of 10 North Korean guard posts on Tuesday. It said North Korean soldiers had used hammers to tear down parts of the guard posts ahead of Tuesday’s near-simultaneous demolitions. A ministry statement said North Korea had informed the South of its plans in advance.
Under the September agreements, the Koreas have also taken steps to disarm the shared border village of Panmunjom, halted live-fire drills along the border and have been removing mines at a front-line area to conduct their first joint searches for Korean War dead.
Relations between the Koreas have improved since North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reached out to South Korea and the United States early this year with a vague promise to achieve the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. U.S.-North Korea talks on the North’s nuclear program haven’t produced much progress since Kim and U.S. President Donald Trump held the countries’ first summit in Singapore in June.
Flex.
Sad to see you can offer nothing of value .
Word count does not equal value.
And you offer no value . glad we can agree on that