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Benster [607642]
Currently in a fully upgraded Palace 2.4 k happy, can afford to buy PI but don't know if making the jumps worth it without having a large chunk of money to upgrade it to make a gain on happiness? Is it worth the jump anyways or not? I can upgrade a fair ammount and have staff ect any advice welcome
SurgeonGeneral [360740]
PI's are so worth it. Even just renting one, you get an extra 10 carry items. With an airstrip/pilot, you pay one flat fee for travel per day, and saves 30% travel time.

Unless you want to keep making someone else rich by renting, I would grind it out to buy one, then you rent out your Palace, or sell it. You don't have to buy or even rent a PI that fully decked out. Look for one with just an Airstrip.

I jumped from Palace to PI, never rented.
Bug [1455582] Committee Committee
You really should be living in a PI if you want to be able to compete with the majority. Buying a PI is something you should only do once your financially stable, it's very expensive for the small amount you save and most players are better of renting them.

If you consider a PI as an investment it cost ~$975m for everything minus yacht, renting one of these will cost you $5m/week. This all works out to 3.7 years to BREAK EVEN, making it a pretty long time before you start saving money.

If you plan to play Torn long term then it'll be worth renting a good PI in the short term (they pay for themselves with the airstrip). Once you've maybe maxed out your bank and obtained a few stock blocks (or sorted out your own money making method) THEN you should buy a PI.

Tldr; no, rent a PI first.
RandomCC [2219650]
A PI is best bought with upgrades, which you can save on by using a broker: https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=22&t=16093936&b=0&a=0

With all possible discounts that break even time is shortened and you save hundreds of millions. For example with all small upgrades, superior interior, and a large vault I spent around 740m for mine. So I saved over 200m. With full staff that's 4500h.

If you think long term it's actually better to buy the PI because the longer you rent the less you can save. I'd rather buy a PI early that breaks even in a few years than spend those few years renting and still end up buying it anyway. Over a period of 6 years or so the person who bought it saves money while the person who rented lost money.

But that's a decision you should make for yourself. Most people say you should get stocks and bank to 2b before you buy a PI.

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Wiber [2065939]
You need to be thinking about opportunity cost. That money invested elsewhere for several years IE FHG, SYM, LSC & TCHS will earn you way more than you would save on rent.
RandomCC [2219650]
The only thing a player "needs" to think about is how *they* *want* to play. Not everything we want is the statistically/financially most perfect way of doing things.
Wiber [2065939]
Okay if you want to play like an idiot feel free. Just don't be telling everybody else to be an idiot like you are some kind of authority on the subject. Most of the people playing games try to win.
RandomCC [2219650]
Having different priorities than you doesn't make me an idiot. Not all games are about "winning" especially games like Torn that just keep going. It's more about playing the way you will enjoy. Not everyone wants to deal with renting.

I'm done with this back and forth, just wanted to provide the OP with a different perspective since they already bought a palace I thought they seemed like a player more similar to me than to you.
Wiber [2065939]
You must be Brenn's multi or twin or maybe you just both suffer from the same mental disability.

Yes Torn is a game that keeps going on and people keep going past you because you don't get that optimising growth in all areas is how you stay ahead of the pack. If you want to play like it's a grown up's version of farmville go ahead, but don't be advising others to be useless unless they make a big bold statement to that effect.

If people are asking questions it is usually because they want to gain knowledge and play better, not regress.

Every time I read either one of your posts I am reminded of an old quote.

Better to remain silent and thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.