That's what you interpreted this as? I'm not in support of double lynching. I'm telling VNG to put his money where his mouth is. Anyone willing to lynch anyone should be willing to be lynched themselves. Not saying you shouldn't lynch people but more like come with your facts.
Den logic was so shit I didn't expect him to be green. I think the reds are just playing the rivalry between Den and I. Probably hoped for this to happen. That long spiel I wrote in advance was me throwing down the gauntlet. I was that sure and I'm still that sure . I'll throw down the gauntlet with anyone who comes at me. You want me gone then come with your proper reasons.
Nini is lurking? Shit logic. Nini isn't herself? Shit logic.
When town, I always do my best to help town. I'm not afraid to be lynched I just refuse to ve lynched for BS. All of you looking at me now overlooked basically everything from yesterday. You're ignoring what I'm telling you now.
Why did you vote for me yesterday? What about me made you think I deserved to be lynched?
from what i read i have a feeling one rb is town and the other is mafia... town roleblockers doesnt generally roleblock the same person unless they really think you are bad but it would also be a waste of time
In regards as to why I voted you momentarily yesterday. It was because I thought that it was weird how you seemed to be getting more sus of Dede and Denmon right after Dede soft claimed investigator, and said that Denmon was green. In the last half an hour, Matrim and then suddenly Jhay voted for you making the votes tie. At the time, I was more suspicious of you than I was of Jhay because I found it weird that you became even more insistent of Denmon and Dede being up to something. Also, I was more inclined to vote you because you said you were role blocked. When you were acting weird, I thought that it might be because you were trying to signal that Dede’s soft claim was fake, which would mean that you are an investigator role. But you then said that you were role blocked which would mean that you had no evidence to be able to provide. (And I felt like I remembered that mafia typically say that they get role blocked as to why they don’t do something) Also, note that when I voted for you, you were currently tied with Jhay for votes. That’s why I voted for you, because I didn’t want a double vote, I thought you were more sus than Jhay, and if you did turn out to be real invest role or something, then that would prove that Dede was lying and that Denmon was probably in cohorts with him.
As things stand now, I don’t think that you would have killed Denmon if you were mafia because I believe your very experienced and wouldn’t do that. But, (if I read correctly) said that you were role blocked again which I find weird. So currently, I actually don’t know what to think of you right now nini.
Looking back at this now, I realize that I may have been mistaken in my thinking about the role blocker issue. Because if there was 2 role blockers, it’s very unlikely that they were both green, which would mean that the role blocker blocking you must have been red, which would mean that you are green. Though, I guess you could still have been faking getting role blocked twice by the red role blocker if you were mafia, but I think that’s unlikely. From what I’ve seen today, combined with yesterday, I read you as slightly green.
Denny thought that my post-keeping was irrelevant.. Does that mean that you guys think that too...? If you all really agree with him, then I could stop trying to keep up with it--- I just know that if I don't, it'd give mafia a bit of an advantage if town gets lazier since people don't like to go back and look through how many posts people made, or what they were about, or when they were, and all stuff--- As a town, we should work together, and not let mafia win.. But if we don't do it, mafia might be able to trick us with saying something like someone is lurking and not posting, like Denmon tried to do with Nini, but my data shows that he was wrong. This is why I think it's important to keep up with it, just as much as votes, because mafia can use memory and mind tricks against us.. I know that Nini didn't make the most posts the first two days, but she wasn't really lurking, and she did talk quite significantly yesterday.. Like, Rainbow, Deso, Jhay, and Mary all lurked more than Nini did, so why did they go after Nini for lurking?? I can see how Denny thought that Nini may have been lurking since he already had over 33 game related posts when I did the first post-keeper, but, there were more people than Nini who were lurking, and near-er to the end of day, Nini posted more than a lot of people.
So I don't really understand why Denny said my information wasn't needed...
All I'm saying, is that data doesn't lie, and even though there's a few outliers in post numbers, especially day 1 with denmon for example, and maybe sometimes for some people it can be a bit skewed, but besides that, people are the ones who lie, not the data/statistics..
Actually, I’m more confused about Matrim_Cuation. They were the second vote on Ninivah, the one that essentially started the bandwagon cause then Jhay saw an opportunity to survive by voting Ninivah. So, why did Matrim vote Ninivah? Cause you didn’t explain at all when you cast that vote. So please explain yourself.
Main issue with your chart is that it doesn’t show specific posts, only numbers. Number of posts don’t really matter if they’re all fluff or random information.
And not-so-good morning everyone! It looks like two of our protectors are down. So here’s to hoping that there’s a doctor here, or we’re a tad bit screwed.
I don’t really see denmon as being a red. It just doesn’t make any sense strategically, to kill one of your own members so people might think they’re a green, to jumble the numbers up for town. Is it a cool play? Sure, bussing always is. But unless denmon was an indifferent threatening to swap sides, there’s no way they would’ve killed a member this early on.
I don’t entirely get the push on Ninivah? There’s no way someone (as a mafia) would claim to be roleblocked every single night. Draws too much suspicion as-is, and claiming actual results (even from a vague role) is a much more secure strategy. So it sounds like we have a red roleblocker. Her vote on me makes some sense after the explanation, so it’s not that alarming.
...however. The proposal she gave, was. We’re at 16 players now, and since there’s 5 mafia and 2 indifferents (assuming they’re both alive, which I kind of doubt), We lose at 10 players, if we don’t have any vote-altering roles. So offering a plan that would potentially kill a green (Jhay), and then herself (Who herself says she’s green), would drop us down to 12 players. Which is LyLo.
Even if you are green, that plan is too heavily weighing on one of you being red. And from past experience, and my mind, this feels much more like a mafia trying to go out with a bang (even if you’re not one).
So I’d suggest against the plan. It’s pretty much a double-lynch, but spread over two days. If we don’t get a mafia today, investigators need to claim tomorrow. Or else we run the risk of mislynching tomorrow, and losing. So Invest’s, please pay attention and choose good targets.
I don't go to external links myself, so I won't click a Google Doc. If it was in channel, I would actually use it. (Don't change what you're doing for just me! I just want to be honest.)
I always am weary about how people use postcounts. I sometimes talk a lot, I sometimes don't. Just depends on if I find something to jump on to talk about. But people can be pointed out for lurking, when really they're a good role and trying to stay under the radar. They can be pointed out for talking too much and trying to control the conversation, when really they're just spitballing ideas and trying to be involved. Amount of posts doesn't tell you someones alignment. The data doesn't lie, but I just see people using it as a justification instead of a tool.
Before that i saw the post where Dede soft claimed and i didnt understand why Ninivah was pressuring that Dede had to be wrong and Denmon was red, i feel like she's was pressuring to some end but without telling how she knew that Denmon was red, as i found that very suspicius a vote her, at the time there was a tie for lynching between VNG and i believe JhayArZee, making JAZ the lynch, i didnt pressure anyone to vote for her at the time.
I believe you are talking about my vote, not my evil brother Matrim_Cuation, ( he's really evil, i Matrim_Cauthon the nicer one)
ninivah, I was in the hot seat since i role claimed. I have no reason to do the (if its not this person its me) gamble simply because the mafia at some point will just get ri of me at night. if townies think I am sabotaging them intentionally, how about guys decide who I rb tonight, how about that ?
Got it, just want to clarify though. Jhay has 3 votes on him, Dede had 2 votes (1 from hated modifier), and Ninivah had 1 vote. So you voting for Ninivah only tied it with Dede.
The end of the day is usually when I'm still asleep. Going to throw a vote down now that may be subject to change. I don't think everyone should be waiting last minute to do votes though, or else you'll end up in panic-mode like yesterday.
vote blackbird
<3 you, but something still feels off. Present and helpful, but I'm not able to get any impressions of her.
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