Damage on flex differences.

Started by Dauntless [1570125] on 8 Dec 2020 in Bugs & Issues.

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Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 12:48 TCT · #1

So i know flex has a weak spot in the middle upper area which is classed as 'chest' hit, This is a stomach hit that did almost as much damage as a head hit. I dont see any visible area in the stomach section that is exposed to extra damage. Any explanations to this? Thanks.
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Log link - https://www.torn.com/loader.php?sid=attackLog&ID=3865f1d49a0145a65758a63e9a773e03

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor 8 Dec 2020, 12:58 TCT · #2

Flexible Body Armour covers roughly these percentages of body parts..

Flexible Body Armor
Heart Coverage: 100.00
Chest Coverage: 95.68
Stomach Coverage: 65.47
Arm Coverage: 38.17
Groin Coverage: 11.89
Leg Coverage: 0.51

so ~1/3 hits to your stomach (minus whatever cover you get from your Pants) are going to be unarmoured.

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 13:09 TCT · #3

if it was covered my leg armor then id be the same damage as a groin hit? Which it isnt. And while at it can you perhaps explain these too

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If my hit was covered by jimmys armor. that one time. And all others wasnt surely id be much more the a baseball bat hit? Cheers.

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor 8 Dec 2020, 13:13 TCT · #4

I don't really know what you mean?

Groin and Legs have different damage multipliers as it is. Additionally it's not 100% coverage of each body part (not even close), so some hits could be hitting armour while others don't, and it's not really possible to state anything about group attacks without knowing how they played out since you have group modifiers too :-)

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 13:20 TCT · #5

After removing the peplum top this become visible. That pinpoint part you were referring as exposed?
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aurel1 [1046304] Admin Staff 8 Dec 2020, 13:23 TCT · #6

According to logs there were different defence stats modifiers during your hits and also different armour coverage - it's really hard to just compare one with another in such case (as Proxima mentioned).

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor 8 Dec 2020, 13:23 TCT · #7

Oh I have absolutely no idea

I think most of the coverage values are silly, I just wanted to paste the info that is available for ya in case you hadn't seen it

Lance0 [2298087] 8 Dec 2020, 13:25 TCT · #8

I think she's referring to the green parts, where we see her hitting with the same weapon (a handbag) in the same damage area (stomach) for vastly different amounts of damage dealt (1819 and 755), though I think that could be something about distraction and group attacks, other than that I have absolutely no idea how that happened.

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 13:28 TCT · #9

Well that is the only part i see exposed in that section, So idk. Wouldnt it be possible to get the hit indicators in the logs?

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 13:31 TCT · #10

This is correct. But never had such differences while using rifles on npc so maybe its a handbag thing since not alot of people use those

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 13:41 TCT · #11

Im nowhere close to a biology expert but for me stomach is this area [image: i.imgur.com]
Most of that is covered by the flex besides the pinpoint marked in above pic. Which looks more then 65.47% covered of what Proxima mentioned i think?

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor 8 Dec 2020, 13:49 TCT · #12

The funniest ones are the Gloves..

Kevlar and Combat gloves cover 0.4% of the Stomach!

try and find that!

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 14:14 TCT · #13

How does gloves cover the stomach? I seen some dev before commenting like. Hits that are made on armor are covered. Those that arent are not. Now you saying gloves cover part of the stomach...? This is truly not making sense at all

aurel1 [1046304] Admin Staff 8 Dec 2020, 14:24 TCT · #14

That's a typo in description it seems, I fixed that.

Lance0 [2298087] 8 Dec 2020, 14:26 TCT · #15

According to the guide by Ahab, Combat gives 0.4% ARM Protection.

Kevlar and Combat actually cover 0.11% and 0.12% Stomach protection, and I find that even funnier.

aurel1 [1046304] Admin Staff 8 Dec 2020, 14:28 TCT · #16

Current hitboxes are a little bit different, stomach area also partially covers the lower part of the body, like this - https://gyazo.com/778bb1a86dd78c53fe74c5b1f0cc1b5e

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor 8 Dec 2020, 14:28 TCT · #17

ok i switched the numbers

Proxima [1879587] Wiki Editor 8 Dec 2020, 14:41 TCT · #18

haha that's a relief.

Dauntless [1570125] 8 Dec 2020, 14:48 TCT · #19 · edited

Cant see much in the pic you posted, But if it goes lower then that shouldnt it be covered by the leg armor? For the record they're 42 plus in rating

aurel1 [1046304] Admin Staff 8 Dec 2020, 14:58 TCT · #20

In case of 755 they had a lot smaller defence decrease kof in comparison to the one with 1819