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Started by Crayfish [954866] on in Graveyard.

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Harley [258120] Wiki Contributor
To be fair, It's not because something is the most common strategy, it is a good one. Most mergers / factions sales turn out to be huge failures because of this reason, and require massive amounts of effort to put right.

Considering the new permissions system there are plenty of other strategies that can result in a much better situation after the purchase was / is made.
KTB [1671666]
Man don't be in here defending yourself, no need.

I think the members deserved a heads up but things happen when real life is hectic

Keep chugging along man, we will see if nuke does it justice or turns it out into something no one recognises.

Keep on top of the family and mental health man
Lat [1187876]
Yeah, we’ve had 3 now and all were long term successes, because generally our core beliefs are to keep folk happy as they are if need be.

I like the way Jux was handed down, but for every Jux there are many more sale based factions.


We've brought Evo members to an Evo committee who will run it, with input where needed. Members first, always. Nobody makes money out of nuke.
Sir_Cr4p [2047256]
Exactly how I remember it. Evo was a dead beat when T-Max bought it. Not on the scene and its just interesting to see how much Torn cares now. Where were you 2 years ago? He was running it alone, then some guy started helping with OC's.

Evo was like "come join us - no chaining only training, max nerve, free xanax".

The place was really mellow with way too much slacking going on. People wouldn't even bother to check if their OC was due before taking off to SA and then forgetting fly back for 3 days.

Did he ruin it? No. Over a course of 2 years Evo turned into what it is today. It became important enough for all this meaningless drama to break out. Where were you when he bought it? Why didnt you buy it before he got it if you loved it so much?

Being a sole leader since purchasing it, investing a tremendous amount of time and Torn money into building it - he has the right to do whatever he pleases with it.

All this whinning by people who neither ever led nor could lead an independent faction all by themselves is truly irritating. You are only here because now Evo is something worth talking about. The irony is that its all thanks to T-Max, the man youre bashing right now.
drdonking [993402]
I do not agree that EVO was a dead beat when T-Max bought it. No comment on the other statements. Thank you to T-Max for leading the EVO during his leadership
DUDE [1028023]
After having led many HOF factions during my 10 years in TORN city I must say if T MAX bought the faction by himself he deserves to keep all the time

If he did not, then he is a scamming scum.
Tigrrrrrr [132684]
You think its about ownership or your rights as the owner, while all of this may be just as you say, it still doesnt explain why you felt the need to lie to us. YOU LIED to the people that trusted you, depended on you and looked up to you. All that sold for a few B. Congrats, you made a great investment.
Nepy [1456295]
Lmao what factions? You were the only member by time trt got sold and it was famous for being full of trolls and your multis.. Cause you are a troll and trolls don't know crap.

Go play Dudes farm like a good little troll
Trucker_Liam [1608058]
I’m sorry TIGRR I did not plan on my dad passing away. I’m sorry you felt like from the start when I brought evo and recruiting members to join it that I knew when my dad was going to die leaving me heart broken to a point I could not continue playing the game like I used to. It’s really sad you think I’d had this plan all along :(
DUDE [1028023]
In 2013 I led JFK.
In 2017 i was leading SA.
In 2018 I was leading Wolfpacj
In 2019 I was leading THE REDEEM TEAM

So shut the f**k up, You are a shit account. Thats it.
Traxler [2093418]
Are you seriously using your RL tragedy as a get-out-of jail card for torn?!!

Since you keep bringing it up, could you please explain how your fathers death compelled you to lie to us (you told me in faction chat that Jox was just an "old friend you'd been chatting for years", Vita posted a screenshot above, I believe John had something to add too).

And while we are at it, did you really need to clear those xanax and points NigelD donated for all of the faction to use?

I have praised your leadership and recruitment efforts many times, deservedly so. What you are doing now is despicable.
Trucker_Liam [1608058]
Yes site. It’s my tragedy that made me sell MY faction, there is no get out of jail torn card for selling a possession I own. I know you all wish I could of continued to run it & give you a lifetimes supply of free items but I could not continue. This will be my last reply to clear up the last few questions then I’m going off again.


Nigel came to me and offered me the lot. Yes meaning you lot wouldn’t of gotten anything anyway. I suggested he buy Xanax and points and donate it for the faction, that was what i was going to do anyway with it. Because I thought of you lot before my own pockets. So when leaving yes when selling my house I took my furniture. Like I said IF anyone in Evo feels like they are out of pocket financially because I sold evo & anyone who put more into the faction then they took out then I’ll more then happy make it right with them. But I can ensure you nobody put more in then they took out. Personally site you’ve taken 3 Xanax a day on me for how long? Months? This is the thanks I get?


I have been speaking to dealer and co for over a year since the last failed merger on a friendly basis. So when I approached dealer he suggested Jox take it over and I was more then happy as we’ve been friends. Just so happens one of my friends brought it & the other was taking over as leader. So not sure where I lied? Yes I wasn’t transparent, instead of saying “I’m stepping down and Jox is taking over” like I did say I should of say “I’m stepping down and Jox is taking over ownership”


But if this is all about my points I took out I’ll more then happily return them to who they belonged to. It feels like the hate here is by upset players who’s gravy train just stopped at a station. But instead of thanking me for what they did get they are upset for what they are now not getting.


I thank all the kind messages I have received and players understanding my mental health issues I’m going through. And I’m sorry for the players who I upset selling my property. And I wish them luck under nee ownership
Lewiss [2012107]
So because someone suffered a personal tragedy they are exempt from criticism of their actions?
Members of Evo feel wronged by T-max and are allowed to express their frustrations, rightly so.
Pops [1025410]
This is exactly what happens when faction leaders become greedy. In NO CIRCUMSTANCE can a faction leader deem a racket (faction asset) as a personal asset.

You can't pull a bait and switch on people, telling them 'we are all in it together' and 'we are all working for the greater good' then at the last minute go 'SYKE' and then take everything including the kitchen sink.

Just because t-max DONATED (key word) personal wealth in aid of the faction, much like many members in EVO did, does not give him the right to any recompense. Its bullshit to parrot a narrative that it does. Then to weaponize your own freely given & unrequited donation, as a means of bludgeoning your membership is not fair.