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Adding non-binary as a gender option

Started by GRYFFIN [2578127] on in Graveyard.

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GRYFFIN [2578127]
What the title says. Cause I don't think it'll be very hard to implement but also can make a lot of people feel more comfortable in Torn. It's really not a big thing, but it could definitely be great.

Edit- "but why not have an option called "show non-binary" (if u dont want non-binary to affect jobs). 1 extra "data slot" that contains true or false. that way we don't have 3 states on an originally binary "data slot"." I only barely understand what this means, but from what i do, this seems smart. Thanks Helcostr.

Edits for clarification-
  • Only one new gender option- non binary. Its called an umbrella term for a reason.
  • If your point is it does not matter- Cool, lets remove it all together. It doesn't matter right?
  • You don't have to use it unless you want to.
  • Not asking for this immediately?
  • How it would work-
  • You only choose as male or female during profile creation.
  • After this point, non binary is an option along with male and female.
  • The code still considers you as whatever your last choice was.
  • If you apply to strip clubs, the director can see in our application which sex the code considers you to be.
  • If you switch to the "other" gender (Eg- from female to nb to male)
  • then you basically get a standard sex change.
  • If you go non binary again, same system
  • You still keep the old character models and stuff
  • The only actual change is that your profile shows non binary.
More edits cause bloody hell-
  • Do the devs have time for this? Well i don't know but I'd say thats a question for them
  • Is this too complicated? Once more, a question for the devs
  • This is a suggestions thread. You can very much put a suggestion here.
  • This is not a debate thread.
  • If you think i am talking about two spirit as my sole "ancient civilisations" point, no I'm not. I come from a different culture which also very much accepts a third gender, which was used basically how non binary or gender queer is used today (and in this conversation). As an umbrella term. A gender which is not strictly male or female.
  • I am not debating on the thread cause I do not have the time. There are a lot of great people making points which i can agree with, but I am not replying to 100+ posts.
  • THIS IS NOT A DEBATE THREAD. THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL THREAD. THIS IS NOT A LEGAL THREAD.
  • When you make a suggestion, it is still the devs call, and i would say they are capable of making decisions on their own. You need not think for them.
  • If there are more changes to be made after this, it will come through the suggestions forum or it will be the devs call. If its the first, well great, deal with it then. If its the second, okay, you make a suggestion if you are so pissed.
  • If gender makes no difference to you, okay great, continue playing as you do. If you dont care, ignore it. Simple. Why are you debating against it.
  • If someone is using the non binary symbol cause its how they identify, they probably do know they can be harassed about it. If they are experimenting, well. Its an online forum, it is better than irl if youre not sure of the reaction. It is full of people who will harass you about it. You make a call. But i do find myself hard pressed to believe that people do not already know of the potential ramifications.
  • This is not very organised but i just read more than a hundred posts. Sue me.
  • Yet another edit-

    https://www.torn.com/forums.php#/p=threads&f=4&t=16221027&b=0&a=0

    Vote here, want to have a look at responses in a more organised fashion
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Yet another edit cause wtf
This can also functionally act as a hide gender option, a lot of people have said that they don't mind removing gender, and honestly, neither do I. It doesn't make a difference if there is gender or not. Personally, i lean towards adding a non-binary and/or hide gender thing (obviously can use both at the same time)
THIS MEANS THERE WILL STILL BE AN UNDERLYING GENDER VERY LITTLE WILL CHANGE ABOUT HIT BOXES AND STUFF. We can just ascribe that to sex not gender.
It's irrelevant if you think non binary is a thing? Not really the topic being debated
Eden [21365]
I’m sorry to hear that :/ not sure why ppl make such a big deal about a simple ask to make players more inclusive
Qzwx420 [1425036]
Id rather dev time be spent on crimes 2.0 rather than useless updates like this... i mean its a cool idea and id be all for it if the game wasnt in the state it is atm... warring system is being rebuilt, crimes 2.0 is something that will happen within the next decade, and is a decade in the making... part of casino are getting a major overhaul if i remember too...

Too many little things push those big updates even further

WE WANT CRIMES 2.0!!!!!!!!
Jammed [1531835]
As mentioned before there are far more important things to spend the time and effort on.

You have the option to change your sex as you see fit and I don't see the need to add any more stuff.

Where do we draw the line, by adding 64 new settings and don't forget the food ones there a few more.
MaxHeadRoom [1429645]
What relevance does your perceived gender have in a text based game?
And how would a symbol that is a largely irrelevant part of the game make you feel more 'included'?