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Patient [2131539]
Disabling hospitalizations from outside hits just makes it more expensive for factions to use the strategy, and instead of stopping it's use, just makes it so that only factions that can afford to use it more than their opponent is are able to take advantage of it.

I know Ched has expressed an opinion of "penalizing" intentional hospitalization of members, but no actual solution has been hinted at.

I think perhaps lowering the threshold for outside hits to trigger early discharge combined with points being earned for the faction with the most members out of the hospital at any given increment has some merit.

That way, the goal shifts from pure volume of attacks to both keeping the opponent in the hospital for as long as possible and giving players a reason to make themselves available as targets.
Raracure [1440257]
You do know that faction members stuck in hospital contribute nothing to the war right?

Isn't it way better if the opponent's members are all stuck in the hospital lol. They cannot make any hits and hence contribute nothing to the wars.

Even if you remove outside hits. They can simply just self hospitalize. So what is the point? The main way to win a war is by hitting retals hits while maintaining your chain.
Qfiffle [2557282] Committee Committee
well the advantage of having someone (friend, merc) hosp people is that it can be done to people who aren't online. So a faction that has people who go offline for 10 hours or something, can just have someone hosp those people the second they pop out after their self-hosp. Whereas even bountying them often isn't quick enough to stop them being farmed.

I agree it's a bit of an advantage, especially since it builds ED on your own side, but you're talking probably 30-50 hits needed over a shortish war, so less than $50M cost, which isn't unaffordable for any faction that is entering ranked wars. Even a losing side will get caches worth billions. So both sides *could* do it, which means it's not really unfair.
DedeSiregar [2430598]
Lmao the second you get unfair match by stat u will be glad that the mechanism is there, I tell ya that.

I disagree any more limitation in rank wat. It's boring. Torn these days, smh.
Myst [9338]
There is always going to be somebody that finds a way to take advantage of any situation. Soon as you fix that loophole another will pop up.

Only way to be completely fair is the 2 factions square off in war room. No outside hits (even bounties would be null for the war period) Maybe even no outside revives allowed. Crazy?
SkellyWoog [2697665]
I reckon war is war - if you win it by brute force, financial manipulation, clever tactics or buying your entire fac red-bull IRL to stay awake. Do what it takes.

Equivalent facs will have the same resources, skills, headcount and tactics so what is available to one is available (pretty much or close enough) to the other.

And applying more restrictions, caveats, conditions and provisos makes it difficult to implement from a technical perspective. I want to see Crimes 2.0 lol
Aezur [1950769]
I'm not usually one for slippery-sloping, but... where does this end?

Should a ranked war just disable the whole game? You can only chain from the enemy, and whoever chains fastest wins?

thus making chains almost impossible to hold,

This isn't even true. You can hit outsiders to continue your chain.

I don't even think you're making a mountain out of a molehill; I think you're making a mountain out of perfectly flat ground.
Borscht [2511009]
I’m not sure what the end goal is here. What are you trying to accomplish? We don’t need more restrictions, do what it takes to win. Not everyone plays with the same skill level or mindset.
Raracure [1440257]
Oh ya something else I want to add:

If BOTH factions can use outside hits to hospitalize your inactive members then it is FAIR.
Since BOTH factions have the access to outside hits. If your opponent hire merc then you can ALSO hire merc.

Nothing unfair here