Hacking Crimes for Cash

my least hacking payment was below 100k. average is about 350k in 1000+ hacking.

10* meat shop has opening https://www.torn.com/joblist.php#/p=corpinfo&ID=85894&referredFrom=1627397

Bump. Just hit 45nnb, I'll post about how it goes. If anyone needs a meat warehouse job, ask the owner I work at.

Are all the success rate bonuses useless for hacking as well once you get to 45 NNB?

Theoretically, but i don't know if anyone has actually tested it. I'm working toward 45 NNB now, and once I hit, I'm going to unset my crime merits and doing a string of hack and see if that makes any significant change to success rate (since that's the only thing I can control, judgeship and Psych degree bonus are locked in)

That would be some great and necessary data, I'll probably do it myself too since I don't have judge or psych, do you know what is the current known success rate for hacking?

I think guys in meat warehouses may have access to this information. They are, or should, be the only ones doing this.

I hacked at 45 with full merits and found I would fall occasionally below 45 and had to arson to get back. I did not track success rates, but I do not think it changed, hovered around 92 percent for the duration. The only thing I tracked was CE gain or loss.

I would not suggest this. I did 445 successful hacks at 45NNB. I got 41 fails on top of the successful ones. I had to do 540 arsons to stay at 45, plus 9 money trains and a handful of other crimes. At 300k per hack that is 133,500,000. The cost in arsons was 1.2 arson per successful hack. Which is kind of a backwards way of thinking about it but there you have it. IDK how long I was at it. Maybe 45 days or so. Honestly the cost in arsons gets a bit soul destroying after a while and it makes more sence to buckle down, live lean, and work on that NNB. At least for me.

I just reset merits while 55nnb and performing kidnap woman. I haven't seen any significant change in my success rate.

I'm also in Meat Warehouse so I figured I might a good candidate to try.

I have:
-35 nnb
-10 merits in crime success
-federal judge
-wireless dongle
-only 9500 int.
-40 nerve from faction specials
-free beer from faction

my results so far:
359 successes (94.47%)
21 jails (5.53%)
total money made $123,860,664
Averages to $345,015.77 per successful hack

This is all over 16 days which means I’m earning $7,741,291.50 per day. Subtract a nerv refill and it’s about $6.6 million. Also I am purposefully level holding to increase my chances of getting busted and so far I’ve used 5 or 6 LBC’s.

But I’m currently in a 10* Meat Warehouse so I’ve gained in CE.

359 success - 21*(10) failures = +149
One successful FBI hack is worth about 1.7 successful AWs, so 149 * 1.7 = 253.3 AWs

I know the general convention is to encourage everyone to spam AWs until you’re on PA but hacking in a MW is very underrated imo

I’ll continue to gather data and see how it plays out over a larger data set.

I don't think MW / Hacking is underrated- I'm looking forward to doing it extensively once I get into a PA team. It used to be too hard on PA team status to do hacking so it was an either or, but now, why not do both?

I'd also say it's a bit underrated.

I had a choice between new companies to start and did some math between Lingerie Store (which had been very recently buffed) and Meat Warehouse. I found that the profit from both (coming strictly from the perk perspective) was really, really close. As in the profits from hacking and flying was close to the profit from flying with a Lingerie Store's BCT perk. I didn't keep my numbers since I was able to start up my dream company, but I remember it being really close on paper.

I was sick of flying and ended up starting up a Meat Warehouse at the time that I was eventually able to sell at 9* for 250m. I didn't expect it to have the insane value a Lingerie Store did/does, but certainly was hoping for a bit more than I got for it. I could speculate a few other reasons the values vary, but it definitely feels a bit underrated if not for that fact alone.

Otherwise, to add to the post here are my hacking numbers. 45 NNB, all success rate bonuses unless noted.

(Before Psych Bachelor)
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(After Psych Bachelor)
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Fascinated to hear that psych bachelors made a difference- I assumed you would already be at cap at 45nnb. May have to prioritize that higher on my list.

If you guys knew half of what you thought you knew you would be geniuses.

Now grab your ankles and spell RUN out loud for everybody to hear.

I'm not trying to be a contrarian, and this really is just the statistician in me talking, but less than half a percentage point I wouldn't really call it difference. That's just statistic variance.

Um, sort of, maybe, maybe not. If the distribution was known, we would be able to do the math to identify necessary sample size and quantify the significance of results. Since we don't, I don't feel comfortable saying a set of results is or is not significant unless it is obviously very small. Most folks here say 1000 of a crime is assumed to be significant and I am inclined to agree with them.

Besides, I was going to work on Psych or another degree next anyway, so it's not like I am out a lot by a lot if it doesn't make a difference.

My tiny data contribution;

With psych major & computer science educations completed, and wireless dongle in inventory.
10/10 crime merits @ 55NNB;
FBI mainframe success; 124 (93%)
FBI mainframe fail; 9 (7%)

0/10 crime merits @ 60NNB;
FBI mainframe success; 121 (90%)
FBI mainframe fail; 13 (10%)

2 CE gain on success and 40 CE on red fails.

Alright. So thinking this over again. Recently got to 60 NNB and in a PH. I am looking at my factions PAs and figure it is going to be a long ass time until I am put in rotation. So if So I got this idea that for each successful PH I do I will hack until I get 4 failed hacks. That way, I more or less come out even as per CE growth/loss. So 4 fails means 40 hacks. 40 hacks = 720 nerve. I get 288 + 107( nerve bar and merits) + 36(beer) = 431 nerve a day X 7 = 3,017 nerve a week - 720 = 2297 for arsons/kidnaps and busts. I will get 36 X300k = 10M or so extra a week, at the cost of 150 + 60, or 210 arsons per week. So my CE will grow half as fast as someone else doing this. IDK. gonna think on it some more.

I dont know guys how you are getting 91 or 92%
I have 2430 success and 146 fails all-time
Leading to 94.33% success chance all time
Started doing hacks since mid 35NNB with both Psych Bachelor and Law job and 10k intel
Those who say "better go for PA, it gives more money", i do hacks to get stock BBs so i gain some passive income while going for PA. I dont say you should always do hacks and stay on 45nnb. Just that you need to count passive income in