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PT Magno , Abusing API keys ( Torntuga)

Started by AltafHussain [2495972] on in General Discussion.

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Indubitably [2117849]
It's pretty bullshit Bogie didn't pull the trigger on other big names solely due to not enough "evidence" or whatever reasoning he can come up with.

It's beyond evident MaGnO did not work alone. Someone so entrusted within PT couldn't work alone even if they wanted.

You mean to tell me such an ACTIVE faction didn't discuss their mugs? Nobody connected the dots that a lot of ex-PT were being mugged? You had multiple ex-members share their suspicions to PT's leadership about this and yet it was such a shock still?

I notice when someone is buymugged in HAKA, and ask questions - yet nobody in PT did this? For years?

Yeah f**king right. Relentless got shot down so f**king fast when they got caught. You had people having funds taken from them that weren't even associated with the bookies just because it supposedly was. Yet, MaGnO's funds are staying within PT even after knowing he's a cheat.

The wording bogie used like PT leaders were "shocked" to find out this. It wreaks of sensationalism. Really? PT is SHOCKED?! No, that's not even possible. Good job to PT and mostly to MaGnO for at least dying on his sword rather than bringing the ship down with him.

But the truth is still not public and it's a damn shame.
Indubitably [2117849]
Circumstantial evidence is worth something. It was used against Relentless during the bookie fiasco.

It was not used here and that's fair enough. If we're setting different precedents as time goes on, whatever.

And there is zero excuse to have MaGnO's money be within PT as it is MaGnO's alone - and everything with MaGnO is gone now. Yet his money is still in other's pockets. That is favoritism if I've ever seen it.
bogie [148747] Admin Staff
No one was jailed there, I'm unclear what point you're trying to make here or what precedent you're referring to, however I'm sure you'd be first in line to rant if I jailed a bunch of big names without any reason than their faction tag being the same and no further evidence than this.

It's not against the rules to simply be in PT... if I do receive any further evidence then I'd act on said evidence, to suggest that requiring evidence to delete someone's account is bullshit is certainly one of the poorer takes in this thread. I already addressed your other point here.

Mentions: PT Magno , Abusing API keys ( Torntuga)

Evil-Duck [1182047]
I wasn’t gonna say anything but thought I’d come forward.
A PT member DM’d me in 2016 out of nowhere and gave me a sloppy kiss in TEXT ROLEPLAY, I didn’t know how to respond and it caught me by surprise :/

#METOO

Peace
Indubitably [2117849]
You're manipulating my words when you know there true meaning and to state the evidence you were provided wasn't sufficient in fedding would be more truthful. Not that any didn't exist.

And yeah, nobody was jailed - but the result was the same. Many big names lost interest and others quit as they didn't "cheat" but were punished. The blurred lines are very similar here.
Alfi [2156072]
Bore off. You just argue for the sake of it. I’m sure if there is new evidence it will be looked at fairly by Bogie and co.


The only pertinence of relentless here is your relentless capacity to be a miserable wannabe hall monitor.
Pez [2153605]
When i read Bogie post the response of “PT were shocked” immediately made me laugh like what do you want them to do of course there gonna acted shocked because they aint going to expose themselves of others involved they are always going to make it out they had no idea. (Yes i believe others were involved)

anyone with half a brain clearly knows there is no way this was a 1 man team. Considering pops had started mugging at an identical period with graphs looking identical. Many ex members being mugged consistently by other PT leaders. Why would they consistently mug ex members? Its kind of simple if you use your brain.


As we all know in gaming cheaters will always be caught and it will be one fun thread when the rest are caught.
Evil-Duck [1182047]
Oh for goodness sakes, time to grow up sugarcube this isn’t a topic to make jokes about. There’s a time and a place and guess what hun this is neither

Peace
Indubitably [2117849]
If I'm just arguing for the sake of it how would I also be a wannabe hall monitor?!

At least pick one direction to go in! o.o

But yeah, I do argue mostly for the sake of it. I could care less about the end result, plenty of cheaters on this game who aren't fedded - makes no difference to me.
daCampa [169777]
You might want to consider looking at where Pops was when the mug graphs start climbing...

You might also want to consider this announcement.

And the fact that close half of the muggers in the Tornstats leaderboard for money mugged started having success after that change, which makes the graphs look somewhat similar to Magno's. Just as an example.

Does this mean all these people are cheaters and related to Magno or PT?

Mentions: Patch list #115 : 29/10/2019

FidelCashflow [1993550]
All those muggers in your example started months apart from each other and have way different growth paths. Pops and Magno started within a day.

Both Jello and Milos were pretty prolific muggers under the old system. How many muggers did you search through and this was the best you could come up with? You just posted a link instead of the actual image here because it's such a laughable example to use.

Here you go for people who dont' wanna click links:

[image: i.imgur.com]

Ya all totally the same as magno and pops.
daCampa [169777]
Both Jello and Milos were prolific muggers under the old system? Prior to the mug protection change, Milos had 180m mugged. After that it climbs to 79b. Very prolific... Jello goes from roughly 5b to 120b, so while yes, he was a decent mugger before, he clearly has made the bulk of his mugs since that change.

I posted a link instead of the actual image so anyone can follow the lines for reference, as well as remove/add others as they please.

Either way, you just called me a liar while saying mugging 180m in 7 or 8 years is being a prolific mugger. That sums up the reliability of your claims.
FidelCashflow [1993550]
It definitely seems a bit odd to see a committee member sitting on pertinent information this whole time and then have to ask the CM permission to file a report.

If you think something nefarious happened then report it. If not then don't. Though if a committee member is acting this shady about extra info they might have it makes me suspect that ample other people are keeping quiet.

Wouldn't surprise me if PT was threatening you. It's clear to them that the bigger problem than cheating and soiling their image is getting snitched on or dealing with public leaks. Look at how fast they kicked the guy who might not have even leaked their discord when they stood by a proven cheater for weeks.