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  • RAPY [2111189] · 31 likes ·
    I'm below Chain Reaction's average on every single category. [image: www.memecreator.org]
  • Qfiffle [2557282] Committee · 13 likes ·
    I love how your first "under-recognized-playstyle" is literally, 'being old' XD More seriously, cool tables. Can you do retals next? I want to know what the most vindictive factions are. For uh, reasons.
  • PrincessJulie [11229] Admin · 9 likes ·
    All I'm reading is that JUX isn't as shit as I thought
Andyman [471591] · #1 · edited
I took some arbitrary player stats to see if I could find any particular under-recognized-playstyle that certain factions favored over others. There's really no point to this thread for individual players outside of perhaps looking at your own personal stats compared to the average of your factionmates and seeing if you are weighing down the faction average or raising it! Or maybe comparing your personal stats to that of a faction you hope to join one day to see how closely you'd fit.

Factions shown below are top 100 in at least 5 of the presented categories. This data was compiled from Tornstats and should be fairly accurate up to about the 14th of February. The averages are simply the sum of all of the faction members divided by the member count.

When it comes to average member age, most of us are aware that JFK takes the gold for being old AF, followed closely by NS, IBB, and DA. I was personally surprised to see SA's average member age so much lower. PT and WP were also a lot younger than I had envisioned.
FactionAverage Member Age
JFK5031.21
Natural Selection4898.77
Itsi Bitsi Bikini4787.62
Destructive Anomaly4759.01
Monarch HQ4518.93
Subversive Alliance4421.11
Chain Reaction4358.53
Carbon4343.04
39th Street Killers X4238.99
Evolution4048.12
JFK 2.13947.65
PT-Family3921.19
JUX HQ3876.46
WarBirds3803.46
Wolf Pack3739.54
Monarch Engineering3718.30
Natural Selection II3579.54
Wraith3504.77
Catalysis3492.95
Imminent Apocalypse3467.49
Nuclear Fusion3464.43
Damage Inc3455.22
~Twisted~3419.67
Dopeheads on Mopeds3391.10
Ruthless Reborn3384.15
MMCP3364.90
The Wolverines3307.43
Valhalla - Barna3242.35
Vulpes Vulpes3116.76
ilimitada3107.49
Sport Club3102.88
SA Equilibrium3097.06
The Untouchables3015.29
39th Street Killers2979.10
C2C2881.75
PT-Penguins2844.53
Carbon X2827.62
ARCADIA2822.07
The Iron Fist2773.01
Little Stompers2721.45
The Quidnunks HQ2663.07
The Black Hand2632.45
SPECTRE2617.44
Dead or Alive2608.88
Natural Selection III2594.67
Ara Pacis2576.73
BLACK STATUES2568.52
HAKA2535.81
Ouroboros2513.71
PT-ShadowRazers2477.92
The Next Level2470.73
Never War & Never Chain2462.50
PT-Calculated2425.19
Bloodbath and Beyond2414.21
Midnight Plague2396.81
Wolverines Gone Wild2344.93
JFK - Future Killers2314.21
Darkside2302.61
Invictus2250.57
The Madhouse Resurrection2249.51
Order Through Chaos2186.51
DropBears2177.28
Impulse2096.37
Vault 762056.11
Dystopia2053.95
Monarch Research2032.67
FLATLINE2020.12
Nub Navy2008.84
Nuclear Blast2002.56
Natural Selection IV1995.17
Nuclear Winter1970.56
39th Street Healers1970.48
DP Warriors1960.93
Midnight X1936.14
Nuclear Therapy1897.21
The Project Syndicate1883.41
The Sick Bay1874.86
The Nest1843.42
Wolf Pack Next Generation1755.37
Epic Mafia1737.37
CR takes the gold for Karma per member with Proxima's +97,000 Karma singlehandedly raising the average by over 1k karma per member. I was surprised to see the NS sub factions and Carbon under 1k per member.
FactionAverage Karma per Member
Chain Reaction3186.88
Monarch HQ2635.17
PT-Family2129.65
JFK2103.79
JUX HQ2067.41
Monarch Engineering1292.91
Vulpes Vulpes1259.91
Bloodbath and Beyond1129.24
Natural Selection1101.59
Monarch Research1070.24
HAKA972.92
Natural Selection II933.34
Natural Selection III931.34
Destructive Anomaly844.30
Catalysis787.67
Dead or Alive762.47
WarBirds759.79
Carbon728.13
BLACK STATUES611.19
Subversive Alliance522.99
JFK 2.1519.31
39th Street Killers X485.84
Itsi Bitsi Bikini423.43
The Wolverines419.86
PT-Penguins411.83
Damage Inc402.27
PT-ShadowRazers373.43
Nuclear Fusion345.73
The Quidnunks HQ342.61
PT-Calculated298.25
Wolverines Gone Wild289.48
Evolution285.65
PT-IronHearts278.20
MMCP260.29
The Nest241.16
39th Street Killers229.39
Little Stompers225.45
Natural Selection IV222.81
Octogenarian DirtyBombers213.51
ARCADIA205.74
Nuclear Winter199.74
The Black Hand198.93
Imminent Apocalypse197.86
The Next Level194.62
Impulse186.30
Darkside182.12
Carbon X174.97
SPECTRE165.32
The Untouchables155.45
Wraith153.25
To no one's surprise, several of the factions with elderl...established players enjoy a higher number of merit-fueled bonuses than younger factions.
FactionAverage Awards per Member
Chain Reaction507.49
Natural Selection503.57
Monarch HQ500.47
PT-Family471.66
Carbon467.15
Destructive Anomaly466.36
Itsi Bitsi Bikini465.99
JFK464.91
39th Street Killers X463.23
Monarch Engineering453.93
Subversive Alliance449.16
Natural Selection II448.89
JUX HQ439.04
WarBirds433.15
Catalysis422.35
Nuclear Fusion419.92
JFK 2.1411.06
Vulpes Vulpes410.07
Evolution408.48
Damage Inc406.04
The Wolverines405.69
Natural Selection III398.33
PT-ShadowRazers392.35
PT-Calculated390.73
The Next Level388.29
Carbon X381.65
The Black Hand380.05
HAKA378.53
SA Equilibrium377.57
The Quidnunks HQ377.42
Monarch Research376.06
Wolf Pack375.90
The Untouchables374.55
~Twisted~372.26
39th Street Killers371.15
Bloodbath and Beyond367.87
Sport Club365.26
Imminent Apocalypse364.51
Dead or Alive357.28
MMCP352.25
Wraith351.95
ARCADIA341.92
Nuclear Winter340.31
Natural Selection IV335.73
Little Stompers335.29
PT-Penguins333.94
Impulse333.80
Dopeheads on Mopeds333.35
The Iron Fist321.63
C2C318.73
Monarch takes the gold for average member ELO followed very closely by NS and CR. All are juggernaut factions with ELOs that reflect this fact. I was surprised to see NS III above 2,100 per member and honestly expected Bloodbath and Beyond to be higher than they are given the amount of respect-maximizing chaining they do.
FactionAverage Member ELO
Monarch HQ2574.90
Natural Selection2555.78
Chain Reaction2545.63
PT-Family2408.13
Monarch Engineering2402.08
Carbon2391.61
JFK2374.48
Natural Selection II2364.17
39th Street Killers X2362.30
Subversive Alliance2341.57
Itsi Bitsi Bikini2333.81
Destructive Anomaly2284.78
Catalysis2244.80
WarBirds2195.82
Nuclear Fusion2175.27
JFK 2.12166.53
The Wolverines2162.71
Monarch Research2123.27
JUX HQ2112.41
Carbon X2103.05
Natural Selection III2100.53
Vulpes Vulpes2075.98
PT-Calculated2057.38
PT-ShadowRazers2055.78
~Twisted~2042.41
The Next Level2034.95
The Untouchables2028.47
HAKA2022.26
Bloodbath and Beyond2004.64
The Black Hand1993.08
SA Equilibrium1991.32
Damage Inc1989.75
PT-Penguins1984.93
39th Street Killers1967.54
The Quidnunks HQ1963.63
Natural Selection IV1960.57
MMCP1946.25
Dead or Alive1944.05
Evolution1930.18
Imminent Apocalypse1918.47
Wolf Pack1876.73
Nuclear Winter1865.12
Sport Club1850.15
ARCADIA1842.04
Impulse1840.15
Wraith1819.58
Dystopia1798.02
FLATLINE1788.24
The Nest1782.63
The Iron Fist1781.07
Busts are super time-gated, so again, no surprise to see the factions with older players ranking so highly.
FactionAverage Busts per Member
Natural Selection6344.43
JFK6338.62
Chain Reaction5778.23
Monarch HQ5455.45
Destructive Anomaly4024.22
JUX HQ3948.43
Subversive Alliance3658.16
Itsi Bitsi Bikini3534.64
39th Street Killers X3430.20
Carbon3428.63
PT-Family3145.38
Evolution3037.69
Monarch Engineering2864.52
Wraith2479.01
Natural Selection II2413.88
WarBirds2390.67
Vulpes Vulpes2377.39
Nuclear Fusion2272.68
PT-Calculated1956.90
~Twisted~1926.30
The Next Level1913.41
PT-Penguins1895.66
Damage Inc1890.10
Catalysis1792.42
Imminent Apocalypse1702.35
JFK 2.11658.48
C2C1520.14
The Wolverines1502.78
Natural Selection III1464.30
Dead or Alive1451.34
The Quidnunks HQ1412.15
Wolf Pack1367.87
MMCP1295.30
The Untouchables1289.26
PT-ShadowRazers1280.71
Bloodbath and Beyond1280.35
39th Street Killers1204.53
ARCADIA1162.53
The Black Hand1109.23
HAKA1070.33
Carbon X1054.84
Monarch Research999.49
Wolverines Gone Wild827.84
Sport Club826.47
Order Through Chaos776.48
Little Stompers739.69
Nub Navy729.14
Valhalla - Barna713.95
SA Equilibrium711.51
ilimitada692.43
I didn't realize so many of the bigger factions had such terrible average revive skills. I was thinking it would be much closer to the 50.0 mark for the older-established players. This definitely goes to show that if Ched were to tweak revives to where they were more powerful if used on faction members during long wars, the big factions would be at a severe disadvantage.
FactionAverage Member Revive Skill
39th Street Healers82.97
Nuclear Therapy62.62
Midnight X46.31
The Sick Bay43.24
39th Street Killers X24.28
Nub Navy23.76
PT-ShadowRazers23.36
Monarch Engineering22.38
Nuclear Winter22.30
Nuclear Blast22.23
Monarch HQ21.75
JFK21.52
Natural Selection21.52
Nuclear Fusion21.20
Little Stompers21.16
ARCADIA20.86
PT-Family20.60
Bloodbath and Beyond20.33
HAKA20.21
JUX HQ19.83
Chain Reaction19.00
Damage Inc18.96
Imminent Apocalypse18.64
Destructive Anomaly18.09
39th Street Killers17.95
~Twisted~17.71
Carbon17.29
PT-Calculated17.16
Wolf Pack17.06
Wolverines Gone Wild16.23
Itsi Bitsi Bikini16.09
The Wolverines16.07
WarBirds15.36
Vulpes Vulpes15.34
Natural Selection II14.58
Catalysis14.52
Dead or Alive14.34
The Iron Fist14.22
C2C14.11
The Quidnunks HQ14.11
Evolution13.61
PT-IronHearts13.49
The Next Level13.44
Natural Selection III13.40
Subversive Alliance13.38
Wraith12.56
Valhalla - Barna12.56
Carbon X12.39
Nuclear Armageddon12.15
Dystopia12.00
CR, The Next Level, and PT-Family blow everyone out of the water in terms of average member items looted. The Next Level clearly shines with the looting playstyle.
FactionAverage Member Items Looted
Chain Reaction30.99
The Next Level28.78
PT-Family24.49
Monarch HQ21.14
Vulpes Vulpes18.97
Natural Selection17.22
JFK15.44
Carbon14.56
Itsi Bitsi Bikini14.26
Natural Selection II13.93
39th Street Killers X13.93
Subversive Alliance13.85
PT-Calculated12.08
Natural Selection III11.34
Destructive Anomaly9.63
Catalysis9.49
JUX HQ9.22
WarBirds8.90
Evolution8.60
PT-ShadowRazers8.21
Bloodbath and Beyond8.13
Monarch Engineering7.84
Nuclear Fusion7.40
MMCP7.33
The Black Hand6.86
Monarch Research6.70
PT-Penguins6.37
SMTH - November Chopin6.06
The Wolverines6.00
Wraith5.69
Ara Pacis5.65
Damage Inc5.50
JFK 2.15.15
Nuclear Winter5.09
Dead or Alive4.82
Dystopia4.61
Wolverines Gone Wild4.59
HAKA4.52
C2C4.03
39th Street Killers4.01
Midnight X4.00
PT-IronHearts3.97
SA Equilibrium3.92
The Quidnunks HQ3.88
39th Street Healers3.86
Natural Selection IV3.47
The Nest3.37
Order Through Chaos3.26
Nub Navy3.13
Sport Club3.09
A race-off between the top ~50 CR members and top ~50 Monarch members could be interesting. Another between NS and DA could also be interesting given how closely those average member racing skills are.
FactionAverage Member Racing Skill
Chain Reaction22.33
Monarch HQ22.17
Natural Selection20.60
Destructive Anomaly20.34
Carbon19.11
PT-Family18.99
JUX HQ18.84
Itsi Bitsi Bikini18.04
JFK17.58
39th Street Killers X17.30
Subversive Alliance17.18
Vulpes Vulpes15.87
Evolution15.68
Natural Selection II15.50
Monarch Engineering15.14
Catalysis14.58
WarBirds14.52
The Wolverines14.20
SA Equilibrium13.96
Nuclear Fusion13.75
Imminent Apocalypse13.26
PT-ShadowRazers13.18
Sport Club12.90
The Quidnunks HQ12.85
PT-Calculated12.78
Damage Inc12.76
Natural Selection III12.36
~Twisted~12.17
C2C12.08
Wolf Pack11.95
JFK 2.111.86
Monarch Research11.56
Wraith11.45
Bloodbath and Beyond11.45
PT-Penguins11.22
HAKA11.19
The Next Level11.11
The Black Hand10.95
MMCP10.86
Carbon X10.80
Dead or Alive10.65
The Untouchables10.39
ARCADIA10.26
39th Street Killers10.06
Dopeheads on Mopeds10.00
Order Through Chaos9.76
SMTH - November Chopin9.56
Nuclear Winter9.28
Natural Selection IV8.96
Nuclear Blast8.55
Monarch leads the pack on retaliations with an impressive 261.47 average retals per member. I was surprised to see Damage Inc and Vigilantes so high up the list. Note this stat has only been tracked for a few years, so a lot of older players won't have their stats counted from a few years ago when territory wars were much more popular.
FactionAverage Retals per Member
Monarch HQ261.47
Damage Inc181.55
Carbon163.33
Vigilantes159.29
Monarch Engineering140.73
PT-Family136.00
PLATA129.55
Riot120.17
Dead or Alive114.92
The Wolverines113.35
Natural Selection111.87
Itsi Bitsi Bikini110.38
Destructive Anomaly108.61
Subversive Alliance103.86
Bloodbath and Beyond103.39
Chain Reaction103.29
Natural Selection II100.89
39th Street Killers X93.82
HAKA91.83
Trinity88.32
Vulpes Vulpes87.25
Catalysis84.06
The Next Level83.92
Octogenarian DirtyBombers82.87
JFK82.01
WarBirds78.96
Impulse78.46
insurreXtion75.10
Valor75.05
PT-Calculated74.24
JFK 2.173.36
Nuclear Fusion72.54
Natural Selection IV71.20
Legitimate Business70.26
Swiss Roll70.10
Tune Squad68.18
MMCP68.04
Dopeheads on Mopeds67.48
London's Dead67.40
aXiom67.14
OverWatch66.27
SWISS COVERT CORPS66.21
Natural Selection III65.40
Wolverines Gone Wild65.05
The Inquisition64.61
SMTH - Silver Hand64.42
Little Stompers63.53
Avalon63.39
Monarch Research61.45
Desert Eagle60.35
PT-Penguins60.33
Dystopia60.15
JUX HQ59.30
JFK - Future Killers58.32
Ara Pacis58.07
WIT-Premier57.44
The Iron Fist57.34
Savage Plague57.04
Thanks for reading, I'd love to see what everyone else thinks!

- Andyman
Kalisa [2014200] · #5
Shout-out to Monarch Engineering for being top 10 in revive skill on this list. Truly we can do it all, both revives and anti-revives!

Unfortunately I've had to give up reviving, as I passed the apex of my revive skill, and future revives will only diminish it.
409kay [2746893] · #8
R++ goated forum posts learned a lot from reading your guides and info you bring to torn
Qfiffle [2557282] Committee Committee · #11
I love how your first "under-recognized-playstyle" is literally, 'being old' XD

More seriously, cool tables.

Can you do retals next? I want to know what the most vindictive factions are. For uh, reasons.
CockyNudist [2209950] · #16
I'm contributing 846 ELO rating which is not a negative number and therefore I am a producer not a parasite. GG.

Also do nude attacks.